People that believe the great lie (Stop the Steal '20)

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In reply to TheBonifaceOption • 3:35a, 11/6/24
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TheBonifaceOption said:
How do you explain Harris failing to get 16 MILLION ballots that Biden got?


Well, she is a black woman for one and a completely different candidate than Biden in that way. Also she was running as essentially the incumbent which has disadvantages if a lot people are not happy with things, which Biden was not. Trump instead was running as the incumbent in the fall of 2020. During a massive pandemic affecting the economy and every one's lives in negative ways. TOTALLY different scenarios.

I suspect you'll see less people overall voted in 2024 than 2020. I am guess more people say this one out. Be interesting to see the numbers.
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3:38a, 11/6/24
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Seriously, I don't think that anyone anywhere should be lecturing about the security of our elections until they can explain the lack of a national voter ID law in a way that does not insult the intelligence of minorities.
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 3:40a, 11/6/24
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Pumpkinhead said:
TheBonifaceOption said:
How do you explain Harris failing to get 16 MILLION ballots that Biden got?


Well, she is a black woman for one and a completely different candidate than Biden in that way. Also she was running as essentially the incumbent which has disadvantages if a lot people are not happy with things, which Biden was not. Trump instead was running as the incumbent in the fall of 2020. During a massive pandemic affecting the economy and every one's lives in negative ways. TOTALLY different scenarios.
How did Biden get that many more votes than Obama.

People were really, really excited about Obama, because it was the first black president.

I voted against him, and I think he is a criminal, but I was at least glad that the US was able to elect a black man to President.

Also, see my post above about voter ID laws.
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In reply to geoag58 • 3:42a, 11/6/24
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geoag58 said:
Pumpkinhead said:
Artorias said:
Pumpkinhead said:
Artorias said:
rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH


There were numerous conspiracy theory posters on this board who opined after 2020 that the Republicans would never again win another Presidential election. Never. Because the Dems now knew how to cheat the election at a massive level without getting caught. And yet here we are just 4 years later.

Those folks should simply admit to themselves those beliefs don't have a leg to stand on now, they drank the kool-aid on conspiracy theories out of disappointment, and let's move on.
There are still unresolved and unexplained abnormalities from the 2020 election, many of which are still actively being blocked/obstructed by Dems in power in their respective areas This election being too much of a landslide to be able to get away with it in no way discounts what happened in 2020.


We could spend all day rehashing 2020 threads on this board with conspiracy theory posters opining that our election process was now irreparably corrupted by the Dems who now knew how to apparently game the system to such a massive degree that no Republican would ever win another election again.



Biden beat Trump 306 to 232 in the electoral college. Just as big a difference if not greater than Trump will beat Harris.

I agree with posters that the pandemic had a large effect on 2020. I agree mail-in ballots and dynamics at the time had a large effect. Trump in office fatigue and the disadvantages of being the incumbent had a large effect. Biden being more liked than Harris had a large effect, etc. what never made sense was a massive bullet proof unprovable Dem coordinated conspiracy that swung the outcome across several states to such a large degree.




Lot's of words to say don't believe your lying eyes.



We can agree to disagree and move on. I think election fraud happens every election in the U.S. but not to the coordinated-half-a-dozen states spectacular degree it would have taken to accomplish what happened in 2020.
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In reply to BusterAg • 3:47a, 11/6/24
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BusterAg said:
Pumpkinhead said:
TheBonifaceOption said:
How do you explain Harris failing to get 16 MILLION ballots that Biden got?


Well, she is a black woman for one and a completely different candidate than Biden in that way. Also she was running as essentially the incumbent which has disadvantages if a lot people are not happy with things, which Biden was not. Trump instead was running as the incumbent in the fall of 2020. During a massive pandemic affecting the economy and every one's lives in negative ways. TOTALLY different scenarios.
How did Biden get that many more votes than Obama.

People were really, really excited about Obama, because it was the first black president.

I voted against him, and I think he is a criminal, but I was at least glad that the US was able to elect a black man to President.

Also, see my post above about voter ID laws.


It was a global pandemic. Unusual situation affecting every day life in unusual ways. No sports. Masks. Shut downs. No air travel. Mail in balloting a huge jump. Let's see what the total votes are this time. I suspect will be notably less all around. 2020 was an anomaly in voting patterns.
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 4:01a, 11/6/24
Pumpkinhead said:
TheBonifaceOption said:
How do you explain Harris failing to get 16 MILLION ballots that Biden got?


Well, she is a black woman for one and a completely different candidate than Biden in that way. Also she was running as essentially the incumbent which has disadvantages if a lot people are not happy with things, which Biden was not. Trump instead was running as the incumbent in the fall of 2020. During a massive pandemic affecting the economy and every one's lives in negative ways. TOTALLY different scenarios.

I suspect you'll see less people overall voted in 2024 than 2020. I am guess more people say this one out. Be interesting to see the numbers.
16 MILLION VOTES is the total amount of votes in Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts COMBINED.

Thats equivalent to the entire eastern blue seaboard (sans Maine an NH, a mere 1M combined) sat out of the election. You actually believe this?
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 4:02a, 11/6/24
Also, did you just admit that a white male candidate is a more viable candidate for Democracy(TM)?

Magnificent.


You just admitted that Democrat voters won't vote for a black woman. Well done.
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 4:04a, 11/6/24
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Pumpkinhead said:
BusterAg said:
Pumpkinhead said:
TheBonifaceOption said:
How do you explain Harris failing to get 16 MILLION ballots that Biden got?


Well, she is a black woman for one and a completely different candidate than Biden in that way. Also she was running as essentially the incumbent which has disadvantages if a lot people are not happy with things, which Biden was not. Trump instead was running as the incumbent in the fall of 2020. During a massive pandemic affecting the economy and every one's lives in negative ways. TOTALLY different scenarios.
How did Biden get that many more votes than Obama.

People were really, really excited about Obama, because it was the first black president.

I voted against him, and I think he is a criminal, but I was at least glad that the US was able to elect a black man to President.

Also, see my post above about voter ID laws.


It was a global pandemic. Unusual situation affecting every day life in unusual ways. No sports. Masks. Shut downs. No air travel. Mail in balloting a huge jump. Let's see what the total votes are this time. I suspect will be notably less all around. 2020 was an anomaly in voting patterns.
Trump is going to almost match his 2020 total.

One thing about 2020 that was an anomaly. It was the easiest election to cheat in, ever, thanks to all the last minute mail-in ballots, and a judiciary that was so afraid of the public response to anything that didn't pander to those afraid of COVID, that the judiciary let EVERYTHING slide.

You can't say that 2020 was an anomaly when it came to voting patterns without also recognizing that 2020 was also an anomaly with regards to the lack of internal controls.

Add that up with the busted water pipes, the huge 3am jump in votes, the 4 swing counties that all coordinated to send poll watchers home, and then to resume counting after they left, and all of the other smoke, and say, with any amount of certainty, that the anomaly in voter participation was due to the change in behavior as opposed to the change in the lack of internal controls.

You still haven't addressed national voter ID. Why don't we have national voter ID?
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4:17a, 11/6/24
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Rino McDaniel no longer heading the RNC and being absentee for support with regard to election location/voting issues helped
Thanks & Gig 'Em
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6:26a, 11/6/24
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Kamala made Biden impeachment proof. The process that gave her the nomination was criminally flawed. She was a joke and not a viable candidate regardless of her chromosomal makeup. She is a NOTHING BURGER.
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6:28a, 11/6/24
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The difference in PA.

Checkmate *****es.
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In reply to Pumpkinhead • 7:42a, 11/6/24
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Pumpkinhead said:
BusterAg said:
Pumpkinhead said:
TheBonifaceOption said:
How do you explain Harris failing to get 16 MILLION ballots that Biden got?


Well, she is a black woman for one and a completely different candidate than Biden in that way. Also she was running as essentially the incumbent which has disadvantages if a lot people are not happy with things, which Biden was not. Trump instead was running as the incumbent in the fall of 2020. During a massive pandemic affecting the economy and every one's lives in negative ways. TOTALLY different scenarios.
How did Biden get that many more votes than Obama.

People were really, really excited about Obama, because it was the first black president.

I voted against him, and I think he is a criminal, but I was at least glad that the US was able to elect a black man to President.

Also, see my post above about voter ID laws.


It was a global pandemic. Unusual situation affecting every day life in unusual ways. No sports. Masks. Shut downs. No air travel. Mail in balloting a huge jump. Let's see what the total votes are this time. I suspect will be notably less all around. 2020 was an anomaly in voting patterns.



Highway robbery is also anomaly
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In reply to E King Trill • 7:44a, 11/6/24
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E King Trill said:
Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting


People are sick & tired of the woke bullsh-t, the economy, illegals flooding across our border, men in women's sports. How many more reasons do you want?
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In reply to David_Puddy • 7:45a, 11/6/24
David_Puddy said:
E King Trill said:
Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting


People are sick & tired of the woke bullsh-t, the economy, illegals flooding across our border, men in women's sports. How many more reasons do you want?
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7:45a, 11/6/24
Is this chart correct?

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In reply to E King Trill • 7:45a, 11/6/24
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Where did 18 Million votes go from 2020?
Ask by for a friend.

That's not a margin of error figure. That's 18 million
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In reply to Artorias • 7:46a, 11/6/24
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Artorias said:
rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH

If that's the case, why was Trump spreading lies about massive voter fraud as of yesterday?
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7:46a, 11/6/24
someone forgot to bring the 15 Million ballots in their van at 3 am this morning........
[b][raiderjay, you need to come up to the front of the bus where I can see you in this giant mirror above my steering wheel. -Staff][/b]
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7:47a, 11/6/24
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There wasn't a man-made virus released this time that allowed them to override voting laws
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In reply to E King Trill • 7:47a, 11/6/24
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Right on schedule, the Premium Board Trolls arrive.
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In reply to Casual Cynic • 7:47a, 11/6/24
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"They cheated" is just cope by the losing side.
yup, 2020 was the most free and fair election ever.

f/cking idiot
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7:48a, 11/6/24
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It's obviously because the D party just wanted to get rid of Harris and counted this as a lost election from the beginning, so they chose not to cheat so they could move on in 2028.

I'm actually not entirely sure how much I am kidding.
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7:49a, 11/6/24
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It's funny what happens when you DON'T mail out ballots to every single living and possibly dead person in the United States.
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7:49a, 11/6/24
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People that believe that a dementia patient, who joe quite obviously was in 2020, that did not even attempt to campaign and counted 81M ballots are the conspiracy theorists... not me.

They tried to shut down counting in PA last night until a judge slapped their nuts and told them to knock it off.

That was the difference this time. No one had so brazenly stolen an election before 2020.
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7:51a, 11/6/24
The answer is simple. There were fewer shenanigans in 2024, than in 2020, because the DNC thought they had it in the bag. They never dreamed that a racist nazi fascist could improve his voting results from 4 years ago. They underestimate how much uneducated garabage is in America. LOL
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7:52a, 11/6/24
If anything this should confirm in people's minds what happened in 2020. Trump is going to get more or less an equal amount of votes as last time with what could be considered a normal increase. The Democrat is going to lose close to 10 million votes.
You can't tell me people liked Biden that much more.

The Democrats are probably kicking themselves for 2020 now. It made the Republicans double down on the ground game and get more people out to vote to compete against what is now known to be inflated numbers. Now that the numbers for Democrats are back to normal, how do they plan to compete with this amount of Republican voters.
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In reply to E King Trill • 7:52a, 11/6/24
E King Trill said:
Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting
Explain this


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In reply to E King Trill • 7:53a, 11/6/24
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Mail in ballots were counted before in person
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7:54a, 11/6/24
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Last night was even more proof that the 2020 election was stolen, and the left hid behind Covid lockdowns.
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In reply to E King Trill • 7:55a, 11/6/24
E King Trill said:
Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting
Dems were not close... The steal would never have gone undetected. But if Dems could then they would.
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In reply to BusterAg • 7:56a, 11/6/24
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BusterAg said:
Seriously, I don't think that anyone anywhere should be lecturing about the security of our elections until they can explain the lack of a national voter ID law in a way that does not insult the intelligence of minorities.
If we got the House, we need to pass some strict rules on federal elections.
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8:00a, 11/6/24
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If it has been closer, the warehouse ballots would have shown up. Still need to secure the election process in this country.
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In reply to doubledog • 8:02a, 11/6/24
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doubledog said:
E King Trill said:
Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting
Dems were not close... The steal would never have gone undetected. But if Dems could then they would.


They tried but we were ready:


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8:09a, 11/6/24
Forget the steal.

Reasons for the different outcome:

Biden's mouth, Kamala's cackle, the killing of P'Nut and (most importantly) Trump upped his game considerably.
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In reply to Casual Cynic • 8:10a, 11/6/24
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81 million for biden… explain that.
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