tford12 said:

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Daddy-O5 said:

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Sorry to beat a dead horse, but can we go back to what happened here? pic.twitter.com/FkScNHivuU

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) November 6, 2024

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Damning.
I don't think anyone can honestly say that Joe freaking Biden was able to mobilize an extra 15 million legitimate dem voters.

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I've never fully bought into the steal, simply because credible evidence was never presented.

That bar chart really changes my opinion. And explains why Trump was so hell bent on winning a fair election.

Wasn't Trump prosecuted for making some phone calls (as president) trying to figure out what happened in '20?

I've never seen thousands of affidavits, much less one. Not saying they don't exist, but is someone could point me to one at least maybe I would change my mind, depending of course what the affidavits said.

wcb said:

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tford12 said:

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Daddy-O5 said:

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Sorry to beat a dead horse, but can we go back to what happened here? pic.twitter.com/FkScNHivuU

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) November 6, 2024

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Damning.
I don't think anyone can honestly say that Joe freaking Biden was able to mobilize an extra 15 million legitimate dem voters.

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I've never fully bought into the steal, simply because credible evidence was never presented.

That bar chart really changes my opinion. And explains why Trump was so hell bent on winning a fair election.

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The regime installed in Jan 2021 could hardly have acted more destructively than an occupation government. That alone made it kind of obvious it wasn't legit. Hell, Biden re-instated Marxist CRT the second day in office; right after inaugration.

Artorias said:

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Matt_ag98 said:

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Too Big to Rig this time

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When Trump wins the popular vote by 5 million, that is a little harder to rig

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Trump winning the pop vote by ONE vote makes stealing almost impossible.

The fact is, like I said in a post a couple of weeks ago with respect to 'Zona, there was neither the votes nor the mechanism in place this time. They needed Arizona AND Georgia AND Penn at a minimum to ALL be in play. The first two weren't.

Harris had to spend too much time and resources to keep their lead in places like New Jersey and New Hampshire that made putting the machinery in place in the necessary states impossible. Finally, there was no chaos on the Trump side as there was in 2020 -- everything from the vaccine to riots to impeachment.

Biden will go down as president 46* by the end of m kid's lifetime.

For God's sake. Trump garnered almost 3 million votes LESS than he did in 2020. And won this election going away. This with the spectre of the evil boogeyman/Hitler/34x felon looming on the horizon.

What part of this doesn't compute?

E King Trill said:

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Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting

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Measures put in place, much more scrutiny, and overwhelming numbers of votes for Trump.
To deny that nothing shady went on in 2020 is being naive at best or at worst a communist, socialist democrat POS.

dixichkn said:

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For God's sake. Trump garnered almost 3 million votes LESS than he did in 2020. And won this election going away. This with the spectre of the evil boogeyman/Hitler/34x felon looming on the horizon.

What part of this doesn't compute?

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Total votes, one way vote spike, bellwether counties

dixichkn said:

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For God's sake. Trump garnered almost 3 million votes LESS than he did in 2020. And won this election going away. This with the spectre of the evil boogeyman/Hitler/34x felon looming on the horizon.

What part of this doesn't compute?

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The way I see it, the mass mail-out ballots created some bump for both candidates, then the Zuckerberg "fortification" activities expanded Biden's bubble by millions more. Ballots sent to people who never voted were collected and completed. Ballots to dead people or people who had moved out of the country, same.

This year, there weren't mass mail-out ballots. Trump's number came down 3MM and Kamala's came back to Obama/Clinton reality, even though she was not a good candidate.

WHOOP!'91 said:

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dixichkn said:

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For God's sake. Trump garnered almost 3 million votes LESS than he did in 2020. And won this election going away. This with the spectre of the evil boogeyman/Hitler/34x felon looming on the horizon.

What part of this doesn't compute?

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The way I see it, the mass mail-out ballots created some bump for both candidates, then the Zuckerberg "fortification" activities expanded Biden's bubble by millions more. Ballots sent to people who never voted were collected and completed. Ballots to dead people or people who had moved out of the country, same.

This year, there weren't mass mail-out ballots. Trump's number came down 3MM and Kamala's came back to Obama/Clinton reality, even though she was not a good candidate.

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This is it…go look at where all the extra votes came from by state. A majority were from blue states that didn't matter. I believe the mail in vote made it easier for people to vote when they otherwise would have stayed at home because their votes historically didn't matter. CA is a good example - 1 M extra votes in 2020…lots of dems out there know their votes don't matter, but they will mail in a ballot if it is in sitting in their kitchen table.

I found this intriguing ...

Kamala won EVERY SINGLE state that doesn’t require voter ID….

She didn’t win a SINGLE state that requires it.

It’s insane that this is just being ignored. pic.twitter.com/OgXkMvTItN

— Jack (@jackunheard) November 7, 2024

Pumpkinhead said:

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Artorias said:

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rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH

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There were numerous conspiracy theory posters on this board who opined after 2020 that the Republicans would never again win another Presidential election. Never. Because the Dems now knew how to cheat the election at a massive level without getting caught. And yet here we are just 4 years later.

Those folks should simply admit to themselves those beliefs don't have a leg to stand on now, they drank the kool-aid on election conspiracy theories out of disappointment, and let's move on.

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Wrong take. Republicans couldn't prosecute without power. But republicans controlled legislatures that hardened voting laws to prevent it. Where laws could not be changed, Republicans hired Scott Presslers.

E King Trill said:

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Ryan the Temp said:

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I'll set the over/under on deletion or locking of this thread at 25 minutes.

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[AD HOMINEM ATTACKS ON MODS. GREAT WAY TO EARN AN EXTENDED VACATION. ENJOY. -STAFF]

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I'm back

Twitter (or X) has been massive. I honestly don't think Trump would have won if Elon didn't own Twitter. There were literally ZERO places where people could get out word that something sketchy was happening because all of the biggest outlets were censoring the right leaning people who were raising red flags.

Elon's money, platform and universal reach was huge for Trump and Republicans and having a way to get REAL information out to so many Americans was massive this time around.

Hard to commit the same crime at the same time of day in the same way two times in a row.

So did the OP get booted by his own troll thread?

edit - Looks like he is back.

Artorias said:

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rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH

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Rules were put in place while democrats were in power? But coincidentally absent in 2016 and 2024? OkJenniferLawrence.gif

Well, this thread sure didn't convince me that 2020 was not stolen, that +81 was real and legitimate, and that we the people really did want the wide open border, the massive government spending and attacks on our domestic energy industry during an inflationary period, the weaponized bureaucracies, the new wars, and all the other good things that came with making a corrupt senile old career politician by far, the most popular president in our nation's history.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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Artorias said:

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rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH

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Rules were put in place while democrats were in power? But coincidentally absent in 2016 and 2024? OkJenniferLawrence.gif

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Yes. In states that had red legislatures and deep blue cities/counties. Georgia for example. But not all states changed rules, obviously.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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Artorias said:

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rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH

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Rules were put in place while democrats were in power? But coincidentally absent in 2016 and 2024? OkJenniferLawrence.gif

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Are you dumb? Post 2020, several states updated their election rules. Democrats being in power at the federal level have nothing to do with it.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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Artorias said:

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rule fixes, better monitoring, too big to rig

HTH

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Rules were put in place while democrats were in power? But coincidentally absent in 2016 and 2024? OkJenniferLawrence.gif

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Did you really think this was clever?

Also, in states where Democrats were in charge, Republicans were ready to use the courts this time. See Pennsylvania senate thread where the Democrats were openly and admittedly counting invalid ballots until the courts told them to stop.

E King Trill said:

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E King Trill said:

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Ryan the Temp said:

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I'll set the over/under on deletion or locking of this thread at 25 minutes.

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[AD HOMINEM ATTACKS ON MODS. GREAT WAY TO EARN AN EXTENDED VACATION. ENJOY. -STAFF]

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I'm back

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Just in time

2 weeks closer to a Trump presidency

guitarmann92 said:

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I've never seen thousands of affidavits, much less one. Not saying they don't exist, but is someone could point me to one at least maybe I would change my mind, depending of course what the affidavits said.

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They were posted extensively on twitter after the election, then twitter blue-holed a lot of them, and Trump spent his time going after Dominion.

E King Trill said:

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Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting

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The vast majority of people on here were talking about nothing has been done it's happening again. Bottom line there's only cheating if Trump lost.

Geminiv said:

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E King Trill said:

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Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting

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The vast majority of people on here were talking about nothing has been done it's happening again. Bottom line there's only cheating if Trump lost.

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Convenient how libs forget how much Clinton and the Dems cried about cheating/illegitimate election in 2016. But I guess it is only a "big lie" when the Rs complain.

Geminiv said:

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E King Trill said:

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Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting

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The vast majority of people on here were talking about nothing has been done it's happening again. Bottom line there's only cheating if Trump lost.

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Bottom line is if you think Biden got 81 million LEGIT votes you posses ZERO critical thinking skills.

Harris received 7 million less votes than Biden did in the 2020 election.

dixichkn said:

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For God's sake. Trump garnered almost 3 million votes LESS than he did in 2020. And won this election going away. This with the spectre of the evil boogeyman/Hitler/34x felon looming on the horizon.

What part of this doesn't compute?

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If you want to factor in all the late vote counts from places like Kalifornia, Trump beat his 2020 total.

The numbers:

2024
Harris
74,296,538

Trump
76,831,007

2020
Biden
81,282,916

Trump
74,223,369

Not trying to make a point other than this is what they say the numbers are now.

Even with the late count numbers (which I would question their legitimacy not from cheating but from deadline laws that may apply to the counting of some of these numbers), there are still nearly 4.5 million less votes from 2020 to 2024, and this with the literally Hitler on the ballot to vote against.

WestAustinAg said:

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Harris received 7 million less votes than Biden did in the 2020 election.

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To put another way, for Harris to have matched Biden she would have needed EVERY single vote Trump got in the state of Texas and even that gets her a few hundred thousand votes short. Totally legit!!!

Yes beat his record number of votes from 2020.

The Biden votes were manufactured for Biden around the 70 million vote level. So roughly 11 million fake votes in 2020.

And he didn't actually ever campaign. He stayed in his basement and did a few zoom calls.

torrid said:

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So did the OP get booted by his own troll thread?

edit - Looks like he is back.

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Spent two weeks in the TexAgs clink. Plenty of time to lift weights and convert to Islam.

Geminiv said:

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E King Trill said:

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Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting

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The vast majority of people on here were talking about nothing has been done it's happening again. Bottom line there's only cheating if Trump lost.

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Diane Ellis-Marseglia, Bucks County, PA, who said she will violate the law and count illegal ballots, now, nearly in tears, says she made a mistake.

Sen Steve Daines: "She didn't just make a mistake, she broke the law, they have to go in and arrest her for breaking the law.” 🎯 pic.twitter.com/NR44h26moG

— Eddie (@Eddies_X) November 20, 2024

E King Trill said:

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Serious question - what's the explanation for Trump winning today? Did the Dems just forget to steal this election?

This should be interesting

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There is more MAGA than the cheat you could manufacture. Plus too difficult to cheat with more patriotic observers and changes to laws. Interesting you forgot how bad Kamalas and damage to America was the past 4 yrs. So bad you could not overcome by stealing. Sorry your girl and that putz lost.