Elon ordered to Philly emergency court hearing re: $1MM 'lottery'

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I haven't seen democrats this agitated since we took their slaves away.
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CardiffGiant said:

Elon should send a robot in his place.


A smart robot or one like Kamala?
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I'm pretty sure Biden's "garbage" comment wasn't one of his normal "gaffes". I'm pretty sure it's being used to de-rail kamamaladingdong's campaign.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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RulesForTheeNotForMe said:

Democrat DA's- Just so we are clear….

Bribing millions of dumb liberal with tuition forgiveness by robbing the public treasury of up to a Trillion dollars, and continuing to push forward even after the Supreme Court said the executive branch has no authority to unilaterally do that. A-ok!!!

Elon Musk- "Hey guys, you register to vote and you're automatically entered into a daily $1 million lottery that I'm funding myself"- 5 alarm fire, this must end now!!!

I guess "bribing" is only allowed when it's democrats and the general public's money…..


Its not even requiring them to register to vote to qualify, they can already be registered. Its simply to sign a support petition.

"Musk has been giving $1 million checks to randomly selected people who sign a petition pledging support for free speech and gun rights.
The offer is limited to registered voters in one of seven states that will likely decide the outcome of the Nov. 5 election - Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. "

Judge declines to block it today.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/musk-due-court-1-million-voter-giveaway-faces-courtroom-test-2024-10-31/
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FatZilla said:

RulesForTheeNotForMe said:

Democrat DA's- Just so we are clear….

Bribing millions of dumb liberal with tuition forgiveness by robbing the public treasury of up to a Trillion dollars, and continuing to push forward even after the Supreme Court said the executive branch has no authority to unilaterally do that. A-ok!!!

Elon Musk- "Hey guys, you register to vote and you're automatically entered into a daily $1 million lottery that I'm funding myself"- 5 alarm fire, this must end now!!!

I guess "bribing" is only allowed when it's democrats and the general public's money…..


Its not even requiring them to register to vote to qualify, they can already be registered. Its simply to sign a support petition.

"Musk has been giving $1 million checks to randomly selected people who sign a petition pledging support for free speech and gun rights.
The offer is limited to registered voters in one of seven states that will likely decide the outcome of the Nov. 5 election - Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. "

Judge declines to block it today.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/musk-due-court-1-million-voter-giveaway-faces-courtroom-test-2024-10-31/
Yes and no.

If you aren't registered to vote and still want to be eligible for the $1 million, you have to register to qualify. Additionally, PA residents will receive $100 automatically if they are registered and sign the petition. IF they aren't registered, they have to do so in order to get that free $100. That is why the DOJ is concerned. But they haven't charged him with anything so far.

That is also separate from the PA laws surrounding Sweepstakes/Raffles/Small Games of Chance.
There is a license and registration process and it's unclear if Musk and the PAC followed that process. Even if they did, there are strict limits on how much you can give away and $1 million blows well past that limit even with a special raffle permit. The weekly limits are also likely exceeded as he is giving $100 to every PA resident that signs his petition.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/pennsylvania/61-Pa-Code-SS-901-702


And that is still separate from the civil case the Philly DA brought under the Unfair Trade Practices & Consumer Protection Law (UTPCPL). Under that law, Musk and the PAC could be on the hook for $5K per violation. But as it is the Philly DA who brought the suit, it is only concerned with residents of Philadelphia County.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/HTM/1968/0/0387..HTM
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The DOJ is concerned that the lottery helps republicans
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Would this even be happening if Elon was supporting Kamala?
It absolutely should be, regardless of who he supports. Overlooking what he's doing would open the flood gates to paying for votes. Anyone who thinks otherwise only thinks that because Musk supports Trump. If he supported Harris, they absolutely would be calling for justice.

Musk does some things right....this stunt isn't one of them.
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Well all know you're lying to protect the narrative. DOJ hasn't bothered to investigate actual illegal donations to Kamala's campaign nor any of the shady happenings across the country that actually impact votes.
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Musk's team did pretty well in court, getting it removed to federal court and delayed until after the election. Another Dem lawfare backfire.
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The offer is limited to registered voters in one of seven states that will likely decide the outcome of the election - Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Critics have claimed the move is a breach of election law. The case brought by Mr Krasner said it is an 'illegal lottery scheme to influence voters'.

Musk's lawyer, Matthew Haverstick, said yesterday that Mr Musk is an extremely busy man who could not simply 'materialize' in the courtroom hours after the hearing was scheduled on Wednesday.

Prosecutor John Summers said the owner of the SpaceX rocket company could easily show up if he was inclined to do so.

But the judge drew laughter in court as he responded: 'Counsel, he's not going to get in a rocket ship and land on the building. 'He's not going to get in a rocket ship and take it to Philadelphia - let's be serious here.'

He moved the case to a federal court after Mr Musk's lawyers argued that the case involves claims of federal election interference which can only be heard at a higher court.

Musk, 53, who also owns X, formerly Twitter, has thrown his millions, time and considerable influence into backing Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump since endorsing him in July.
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nortex97 said:

Musk's team did pretty well in court, getting it removed to federal court and delayed until after the election. Another Dem lawfare backfire.
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The offer is limited to registered voters in one of seven states that will likely decide the outcome of the election - Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Critics have claimed the move is a breach of election law. The case brought by Mr Krasner said it is an 'illegal lottery scheme to influence voters'.

Musk's lawyer, Matthew Haverstick, said yesterday that Mr Musk is an extremely busy man who could not simply 'materialize' in the courtroom hours after the hearing was scheduled on Wednesday.

Prosecutor John Summers said the owner of the SpaceX rocket company could easily show up if he was inclined to do so.

But the judge drew laughter in court as he responded: 'Counsel, he's not going to get in a rocket ship and land on the building. 'He's not going to get in a rocket ship and take it to Philadelphia - let's be serious here.'

He moved the case to a federal court after Mr Musk's lawyers argued that the case involves claims of federal election interference which can only be heard at a higher court.

Musk, 53, who also owns X, formerly Twitter, has thrown his millions, time and considerable influence into backing Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump since endorsing him in July.




You mean the man who could buy and sell some entire countries like a prison ***** can afford competent lawyers!?

Maybe the dumb ****sticks who think up these stupid lawfare tactics should think before they open up their cake holes.
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The best part to me was the judge laughing at/mocking their whining about not getting the optics of him being dragged into court for a scolding. Their plan was clearly to make this into a big news story about another corrupt/evil Trump ally being threatened in court.
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He moved the case to a federal court after Mr Musk's lawyers argued that the case involves claims of federal election interference which can only be heard at a higher court.


Procedure nerd correction:

The judge did not remove the case. It was removed by Musk's lawyers when they filed notice of removal in federal court. State court permission is not needed. The federal judge will decide whether to remand it back to state court.
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BMX Bandit said:

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He moved the case to a federal court after Mr Musk's lawyers argued that the case involves claims of federal election interference which can only be heard at a higher court.


Procedure nerd correction:

The judge did not remove the case. It was removed by Musk's lawyers when they filed notice of removal in federal court. State court permission is not needed. The federal judge will decide whether to remand it back to state court.

Boom! Lawyered!!!1

</tio Beto approved>

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A Furby is smarter than Kamala so it doesn't even have to be a "smart" robot.
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The federal judge will decide whether to remand it back to state court.


He decided quickly


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Elon needs to do more of this
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memorandum here:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.paed.629416/gov.uscourts.paed.629416.9.0_1.pdf

No federal jurisdiction.
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BMX Bandit said:

memorandum here:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.paed.629416/gov.uscourts.paed.629416.9.0_1.pdf

No federal jurisdiction.
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