It is nice to see Democrats making the same arguments they did in 1860.

Who will pick the cotton?
You realize not using cheap labor will make prices go up?


Mass deportation has to happen or the American experiment will come to an end.

According to Democrats:

Jews illegally immigrating en masse to Israel, their historic homeland, as refugees before 1948 to avoid pogroms and persecution across Europe and elsewhere was colonization. The Jews should be kicked out, and the Palestinians given all of the land and infrastructure (and probably reparations, just because).

Hispanics illegally immigrating en masse to the US, where they have no history, as "refugees" while passing through multiple safe countries purely for jobs and a place to live is humanitarianism. Oh, and "replacement theory" is just white fragility and xenophobic fear mongering because no group has ever taken an area over through immigration and displacement of the current population.

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It is nice to see Democrats making the same arguments they did in 1860.

Who will pick the cotton?
You realize not using cheap labor will make prices go up?


Mass deportation has to happen or the American experiment will come to an end.

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I think we've already missed all our exit ramps at this point to avoid that.

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More importantly, where's the American who owns the yard service company the immigrant works for going to find Americans to do the same job at the same pay.

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At least you now recognize that they are a threat to our livelihoods.

And to answer your question, you close the border and utilize our existing system to strategically allow for new immigrants. It's called managing a problem.

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Can my fellow Mexicans stay?

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This is where I fall...deporting EVERYONE who ever came in illegally would actually upend this country in many ways imo...I don't think people have thought this through TBH. Deport those who came in in the last 4-5 years, plus those with serious criminal records??? I am FULLY on board. But I have a coworker whose dad is a great man but came in here illegally probably 5 decades ago. I do not think people realize what deporting ALL illegals would entail. Many people on here are connected with some illegals at least within a few degrees, and don't even know it.

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We should start will all of the criminals Biden/Harris let in. That's at least a few million. That's going to be aggressive deportation. They should be immediately taken to the airport and removed.

Everyone is who the Dems let in the past 4+ years to start. Cut off all of the welfare of all illegals, regardless how long they have been here immediately. Kick them out of their free shelter (hotels, rentals, etc). Cut of their free debit cards, food, etc. You offer $10k for them to get on the plane. That's the cheaper way than continuing to pay for these people. We can do both things at once.

Your coworker's Dad is not going to be deported. Plus, I bet he's not on welfare either. No foreigner should be on welfare in the US. I don't care how long they have been here.

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Agreed on all accounts.

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I'm still astonished that anyone thinks we're ever going to deport tens of millions of people. Or even a serious part of that number. I think that'll happen around the same time our national debt gets back to 0. As soon as the next Dem is elected they'll all come back in anyway.

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I honestly think we could see deportations under Trump. Particularly of gang elemnts that have come in and are wreaking havoc. Even the left doesn't sympathize with these cretins.

I agree with the Harry Ellis from Die Hard look a like in the OP. Hans, Bubbe, you have to go back!

What's the plan if it's not deportation? Anyone going to suggest something?

Here's 2 that need help.

You're in charge of their future, what's your solution?

Illegal immigrants in NYC admit to receiving 7 months free rent, free meals, free insurance, and more…

Meanwhile Americans affected from Hurricane Helene receive $750…

Make it make sense. pic.twitter.com/31ANFUBavn

— Nick shirley (@nickshirleyy) October 4, 2024

See 1800s Texas

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I agree with the Harry Ellis from Die Hard look a like in the OP. Hans, Bubbe, you have to go back!

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The speaker's family has lived in Stockton, California since 1849 during the California Gold Rush.

He is not an illegal immigrant.

His family has lived in California since before California even became a state.

California became a state in 1850.

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BCG Disciple said:

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I agree with the Harry Ellis from Die Hard look a like in the OP. Hans, Bubbe, you have to go back!

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The speaker's family has lived in Stockton, California since 1849 during the California Gold Rush.

He is not an illegal immigrant.

His family has lived in California since before California even became a state.

California became a state in 1850.

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That's what he said, but he should have written

"Juans, bubbies, y'all have to go back"

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See 1800s Texas

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So it's ok for invasion to commence? Do you think we are colonizers and deserve this?

What's the difference between what's happening now and what happened then.

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What's the difference between what's happening now and what happened then.

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The Comanche

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Can my fellow Mexicans stay?

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This is where I fall...deporting EVERYONE who ever came in illegally would actually upend this country in many ways imo...I don't think people have thought this through TBH. Deport those who came in in the last 4-5 years, plus those with serious criminal records??? I am FULLY on board. But I have a coworker whose dad is a great man but came in here illegally probably 5 decades ago. I do not think people realize what deporting ALL illegals would entail. Many people on here are connected with some illegals at least within a few degrees, and don't even know it.

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If that person came in 5 decades ago, he would have qualified for amnesty in 1986.

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hedge said:

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Can my fellow Mexicans stay?

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This is where I fall...deporting EVERYONE who ever came in illegally would actually upend this country in many ways imo...I don't think people have thought this through TBH. Deport those who came in in the last 4-5 years, plus those with serious criminal records??? I am FULLY on board. But I have a coworker whose dad is a great man but came in here illegally probably 5 decades ago. I do not think people realize what deporting ALL illegals would entail. Many people on here are connected with some illegals at least within a few degrees, and don't even know it.

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If that person came in 5 decades ago, he would have qualified for amnesty in 1986.

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Crazy that Reagan gave the Democrats the largest state in the country by population size, the state with the most EC votes, and the state with the most US House reps.

I still haven't heard a good explanation for why Reagan did it.

It doesn't make sense.

Reagan won the argument in the 80s and won 49 out of 50 states.

He then just gave it all away to the Democrats.

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Can my fellow Mexicans stay?

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What's the difference between what's happening now and what happened then.

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We have the power to send them packing, they did not.

And they have the numbers to fight back

Go for it.

Where are they going to live and work? Who funds it?

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And they have the numbers to fight back

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Bro, if the government wanted to remove every non-citizen Mexican from the US, it would take the military about 60 days to do it. Let's not be unrealistic.

Latin American countries and its people are not exactly known for their military prowess.

That's what they said about Afghanistan

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Can my fellow Mexicans stay?

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If they go back and follow the legal process, absolutely.

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Normally yes. These are not normal times though. I think we need to slow down on legal immigration as well for a while. This country needs to recover from having our borders dissolved for 4 years.

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I am for deporting all who came here illegally in the past 10 years. Then stop all immigration for a few years. Once you start it back up, only allow in those who are fluent in English and have a skill set that we need here. They must be able to show financial responsibility or have an citizen family contractually agree to sponsor them and provide no federal or state support for them.

Why fluent in English? We don't have a national language

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Why fluent in English? We don't have a national language

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No, but we should.

Eta: it is absolutely stupid that IRS, SS, and Medicare notices have pages printed in Spanish, Chinese, some middle east language.

Why?

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1. To save money.

2. All official documents in a single language to eliminate legal loopholes.

3. All translation services optimized to make everything into English.

4. National identity and Culture

Four good reasons right off the top of my head.

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That's what they said about Afghanistan

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Are you idiotic? If the American military wanted every living thing in Afghanistan dead, it would be dead. Same with Iraq.

White Western Europeans and their decedents created a culture that has produced the most dangerous creatures to ever walk God's green earth.

Lmao

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Lmao

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It is hilarious until you spend time around infantry and special operations units. Then it becomes less hillarious and obvious where the overwhelming majority of our nations warriors come from.

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Lmao

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It is hilarious until you spend time around infantry and special operations units. Then it becomes less hillarious and obvious where the overwhelming majority of our nations warriors come from.

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do you think only white people have good militaries?

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Lmao

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It is hilarious until you spend time around infantry and special operations units. Then it becomes less hillarious and obvious where the overwhelming majority of our nations warriors come from.

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do you think only white people have good militaries?

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Today? Absolutely. When I was in Iraq I got to interact with units from all over the world. Asian countries would be my next choice.

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Can my fellow Mexicans stay?

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This is where I fall...deporting EVERYONE who ever came in illegally would actually upend this country in many ways imo...I don't think people have thought this through TBH. Deport those who came in in the last 4-5 years, plus those with serious criminal records??? I am FULLY on board. But I have a coworker whose dad is a great man but came in here illegally probably 5 decades ago. I do not think people realize what deporting ALL illegals would entail. Many people on here are connected with some illegals at least within a few degrees, and don't even know it.

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This problem of illegal immigration can be stopped almost immediately and reversed by just setting a list of prioritized actions that begins with deporting all illegal aliens convicted of crimes from misdemeanors to class A felonies with no appeals. Then deport illegal aliens deadbeat dads. Revoke eligibility for child tax credits, EBT/SNAP, housing vouchers for all illegal aliens. Deport illegals who fall behind on student loan payments. Revoke birthright citizenship for children without at least one US citizen parent proven by DNA test. Prosecute employers who employ illegal aliens with a stiff fine for the first offense and impose civil asset forfeiture as punishment for second offense.

Problem solved. That eliminates 95% of the economic incentives that draw illegals to the US. Just be serious and execute a prioritized plan and beautiful things start to happen in many areas of society.

Your friend's father who came here illegally 50 years ago will not have to worry about deportation. He would also not have to worry about a shortage of housing, overcrowded schools, overcrowded jails, and having to compete with a sub-minimum wage labor pool of illegals.