Asheville and Western NC, TN, and SC damage from Helene [Staff Warning]

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12:37p, 10/4/24
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1:06p, 10/4/24


This is really really bad. Supplies aren't getting anywhere because there is no one to give them to in some areas, entire places are just gone and it is very likely most of the people are dead.
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This is unbelievable.

XVIII Airborne Corps is located on Fort Bragg (I refuse to call it by that other woke name), a mere 268 miles from Asheville and the worst flooding areas of this Biblical-level tragedy.

The Corps' capabilities include:

-Extensive medium and heavy lift rotary wing aircraft.
-A theater sustainment command with incredible capabilities for delivery of food, potable water, fuel and construction materials.
-A medical brigade with Level III surgical capabilities.
-An engineer brigade with robust heavy construction assets.
-A military police brigade that can provide traffic control and assist local LE.
-An Airborne Infantry division that has routinely supported disaster relief in years past.
-A world-class command, control and communications HQ capability to make it all work.

NONE OF THAT has been ordered to assist civil authorities? NONE OF IT??????

Fort Bragg has routinely supported domestic disaster relief for DECADESKatrina, Homestead, you name it. Hell, I myself have a Humanitarian Service Medal for support to Hurricane Fran relief out of Bragg.

Now we can't do anything for an epic disaster in the SAME FREAKING STATE?

WTF, over?

This goes beyond mere negligence. It must be malicious. Perhaps Kamala and Joe don't want NC's rural GOP counties to be able to vote on November 5th?

This is an abomination, and one of the worst derelictions of Presidential duties in US history.
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1:32p, 10/4/24
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Now fema is creating a misinformation page.
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Where are PIOs giving updates on rescue and recovery efforts?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:50p, 10/4/24
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aggiehawg said:


Where are PIOs giving updates on rescue and recovery efforts?
Trying to score a hotel room in Asheville with power and water.
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Tim Kennedy on FEMA: 'They are directly interrupting our ability to conduct missions'

"I went to put a couple of people into a hotel last night, and they have a security guard at the hotel and they said, 'Oh, we're so sorry. The entire hotel has been booked for federal employees.' And I was like, no, no. I have people that I just pulled out of a mountain that are living out in the hills, and there's not a place for me to put them because we have federal employees that are staying in the hotel?"
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2:23p, 10/4/24
The way FEMA appears to be behaving reminds of one of those SHTF EMP book series that I've read (I wish I could remember which one). Their behavior in the book appeared very outlandish at the time, but maybe it wasn't so far off. But don't worry, FEMA's issues (like the border) are the republicans fault.

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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:30p, 10/4/24
Being a lamppost piñata is in his near future if he ventures into that disaster area.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:33p, 10/4/24
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Isn't the federal fiscal year start Sept 1????
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:34p, 10/4/24
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aggiehawg said:

And wasn't this one of the quietest hurricane seasons in a good while?
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In reply to TAMUallen • 2:37p, 10/4/24
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Tim Kennedy on FEMA: 'They are directly interrupting our ability to conduct missions'

"I went to put a couple of people into a hotel last night, and they have a security guard at the hotel and they said, 'Oh, we're so sorry. The entire hotel has been booked for federal employees.' And I was like, no, no. I have people that I just pulled out of a mountain that are living out in the hills, and there's not a place for me to put them because we have federal employees that are staying in the hotel?"


Tim knows how to work with difficult and different parties, so if he is making these criticisms, than he is holding back significantly on what he really wants to say.
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In reply to Squadron7 • 2:42p, 10/4/24
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And wasn't this one of the quietest hurricane seasons in a good while?
Look at the names of this year's storm. Still towards the front/middle of the alphabet. Up to what now "L" for Leslie?

In 2005 we went from Katrina to Rita inside a month?
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2:43p, 10/4/24
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Elon is John Galt.

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this administration is disgusting and a total disgrace
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2:53p, 10/4/24
I dont know who Sidney Powell is, but buddy forwarded a tweet from her saying a sheriff has said he has bagged 1200 bodies, but no one is reporting it. I pray it is not that bad.
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In reply to Owlagdad • 2:56p, 10/4/24
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I dont know who Sidney Powell is, but buddy forwarded a tweet from her saying a sheriff has said he has bagged 1200 bodies, but no one is reporting it. I pray it is not that bad.


1. Sidney Powell was supposed to release the Kraken, so take everything she says with a grain of salt.

2. I would bet the total loss of life with be in the thousands because of the terrain and the inability for many to escape, so the tweet may be accurate.
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That's a long video and it takes awhile before you can see anyone moving on the ground. And then just a few.

And no one will say how many are still missing, either. Everything is highly unusual in the aftermath of this hurricane. No pressers, no updates, no releases from the state emergency management HQs.
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In reply to StandUpforAmerica • 3:00p, 10/4/24
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The way FEMA appears to be behaving reminds of one of those SHTF EMP book series that I've read (I wish I could remember which one). Their behavior in the book appeared very outlandish at the time, but maybe it wasn't so far off. But don't worry, FEMA's issues (like the border) are the republicans fault.

I absolutely can not believe anyone would claim such bull*****
The Democratic Party leadership is corrupted, dishonest, unethical and has absolutely no honor at all.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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In reply to aggiehawg • 3:03p, 10/4/24
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That's a long video and it takes awhile before you can see anyone moving on the ground. And then just a few.

And no one will say how many are still missing, either. Everything is highly unusual in the aftermath of this hurricane. No pressers, no updates, no releases from the state emergency management HQs.
I hear ya. It wasnt on GWB watch, but Bidens, and looks like they cant get it together though.
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In reply to Owlagdad • 3:03p, 10/4/24
Host on Austin radio said he had a surgeon friend in Asheville claiming there are 4 tractoe trailers of bodies outside his hospital waiting for ID
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 3:13p, 10/4/24
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Host on Austin radio said he had a surgeon friend in Asheville claiming there are 4 tractoe trailers of bodies outside his hospital waiting for ID
...And 12 medevac choppers waiting in Greenville, S.C. and FEMA wont send them in.
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Musk is going all in on this... he's MAD
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The response to this natural calamity is absolutely evil. The Biden/Harris administration has calculated that because the majority of the victims are white, Christian, conservatives that their lives have no value. This is nothing more than a genocidal act on a God fearing race which conveniently translates into fewer republican voters. This is DEI and CRT in action as its the murder of likley thousands of desperate white people.

If this flood had hit any Dem run big city, you think FEMA would be sitting back doing nothing? Hell no.

Scary times we are living in.
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In reply to Secolobo • 3:42p, 10/4/24
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Now fema is creating a misinformation page.


Yep - here is how they are putting their "precious" and "limited" resources to work:

FEMA warns of Helene misinformation, launches 'rumor response' page

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On the newly formed page, the agency asks the public to find and share information from trusted sources and discourage others from sharing information from unverified ones. It also seeks to dispel rumors as the search for storm victims continues across multiple states, and authorities contend with blocked roads and power outages.

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Among the misinformation FEMA highlights is a claim that the agency does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance.

The agency says it does.
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In reply to rausr • 3:45p, 10/4/24
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rausr said:

Among the misinformation FEMA highlights is a claim that the agency does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance.

The agency says it does.


Well that was a pretty easy fact check

Mayorkas warns FEMA doesn't have enough funding to last through hurricane season
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In reply to Owlagdad • 3:47p, 10/4/24
I have a friend helping coordinate getting them body bags, one town alone needed 250. Everyone else is basically asking for whatever they can get because its still rising.

Lord have mercy.
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.@CoryMillsFL and I spoke with the ONLY FEMA crew we could find in Asheville, North Carolina. It was stationed OFF the main road where NO Hurricane Helene victims could easily see them:

"We got here yesterday."
A WEEK LATE.

"They could go online, make a phone call, or use our app to get them in the system...The app is great."
THEY DON'T HAVE INTERNET.

How do people know this location exists?
"That would be the news media's job."
THEY DON'T HAVE TVs.

"They sit in their cars to charge their phones and listen to the radio."
YOU MEAN THE CARS THAT WERE WASHED INTO THE RIVER?

"We actually go door to door."
When will that start?
"That's way above my head. Do you want to talk to my crew lead?"

The crew lead: "We don't necessarily go door to door."

These people don't need your red tape, FEMA. Get out of their way and let Americans be Americans.
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Yall read that? Buttiegieg trying to brag about sending 2 million

TWO MILLION
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These are not government friendly types that have been so negatively impacted.... this will not end well.
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In reply to rausr • 4:04p, 10/4/24
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They are perfectly displaying the moral bankruptcy of left-wing ideology. Instead of of pushing resources to counteract the "misinformation" by doing good and getting out of volunteers way, they waste time making a page to fight said "misinformation", thus keeping the virtue-signaling campaign going. They aren't mad at their incompetence, they're mad they're being called out and it looks poorly on the Biden administration in an election year. What do they do the rest of the year, make presentations on "cataclysm and equity"? The lack of preparation is ridiculous.

Meanwhile Carolinians are dying of exposure. Thanks for showing us who you are, you'd rather be seen as good than actually doing good. Whoever let the empty souls be in charge of disaster relief is sheer stupidity.
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4:07p, 10/4/24
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Mayor Pete said shutting down airspace was misinformation.

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In reply to Fat Black Swan • 4:15p, 10/4/24
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Fat Black Swan said:
Mayor Pete said shutting down airspace was misinformation.



Elon did ask for number to call and did follow up with "thanks for the call"

I think the administration is feeling things being out of their control because it looks like people on the ground (and Musk with those working for him) are pushing back

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