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"The Jews are behind everything" crap is getting old.

I am a critic of outsized Israeli/Jewish influence on our government. And I don't think most Jews, who are secular, care about the same values I have. That is fair criticism.

But not everything is a nefarious Jewish plot....... and she has lost me completely.

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Give it a rest. Anyone who dare criticizes Israel for even the slightest of things. Is lumped in some far right conspiracy theory? You people can't even have a rational conversation anymore.

If you don't listen to rational people making rational arguments, all that's going to be left are the extremists. Good job guys

Go touch grass. There's no "they" out to get you. Charlie was murdered by a leftist radical, and it had nothing to do with Israel, Bill Ackman, or Netanyahu. Stop listening to the folks taking out of context clips and pinning them to their Charlie Day conspiracy bulletin boards.

If you find yourself believing in a nondescript "they" that's pulling strings and out to get you, you have divorced yourself from reality. True conspiracies leave factual evidence that can be verified, like Russiagate and the covid gain of function coverup. Conspiracy theories can do nothing but posit questions based on circumstantial speculation.

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Give it a rest. Anyone who dare criticizes Israel for even the slightest of things. Is lumped in some far right conspiracy theory?

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LOL, if that is what any of the posts ever were, you'd be right. Except they are never about "the slightest of things", it's about genocide, mass murder, and in the case of our girl Candace here, being "Demon spawn".

Show me the "slightest of things" criticisms, please.

"Go touch grass" do you really think that's clever?

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"The Jews are behind everything" crap is getting old.

I am a critic of outsized Israeli/Jewish influence on our government. And I don't think most Jews, who are secular, care about the same values I have. That is fair criticism.

But not everything is a nefarious Jewish plot....... and she has lost me completely.

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Give it a rest. Anyone who dare criticizes Israel for even the slightest of things. Is lumped in some far right conspiracy theory? You people can't even have a rational conversation anymore.

If you don't listen to rational people making rational arguments, all that's going to be left are the extremists. Good job guys

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Lay out the entirety of your side of the "rational argument" and I will happily have a conversation about it. You haven't done anything of the sort thus far. You're just defending people that have constantly peddled explicitly antisemitic conspiracy theories.

I'm fine if you want to try and make a factual case against US support for Israel. I will disagree with you, but we can discuss the topic. That's not what you're doing.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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Go touch grass. There's no "they" out to get you. Charlie was murdered by a leftist radical, and it had nothing to do with Israel, Bill Ackman, or Netanyahu. Stop listening to the folks taking out of context clips and pinning them to their Charlie Day conspiracy bulletin boards.

If you find yourself believing in a nondescript "they" that's pulling strings and out to get you, you have divorced yourself from reality. True conspiracies leave factual evidence that can be verified, like Russiagate and the covid gain of function coverup. Conspiracy theories can do nothing but posit questions based on circumstantial speculation.

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You are having a straw man argument with some fictitious person in your mind, I never said any of that.

Did candace actually say israel was responsible for charlie kirk's shooting? Or was she making a point about? Israeli influence in american politics?

I'm genuinely asking. From what I saw, it was the latter. I could be wrong though.

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Kvetch said:

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Go touch grass. There's no "they" out to get you. Charlie was murdered by a leftist radical, and it had nothing to do with Israel, Bill Ackman, or Netanyahu. Stop listening to the folks taking out of context clips and pinning them to their Charlie Day conspiracy bulletin boards.

If you find yourself believing in a nondescript "they" that's pulling strings and out to get you, you have divorced yourself from reality. True conspiracies leave factual evidence that can be verified, like Russiagate and the covid gain of function coverup. Conspiracy theories can do nothing but posit questions based on circumstantial speculation.

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You are having a straw man argument with some fictitious person in your mind, I never said any of that.

Did candace actually say israel was responsible for charlie kirk's shooting? Or was she making a point about? Israeli influence in american politics?

I'm genuinely asking. From what I saw, it was the latter. I could be wrong though.

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In your eyes, what would be the purpose of claiming that Charlie was threatened by Israel and Bill Ackman just prior to his assassination? Do you not believe that the point is to insinuate Israeli involvement in an assassination plot? Why is she implying that Charlie was being "awoken" to the true evils of Israel, who she refers to as the "great Satan" just prior to his death?

Let's use some common sense and not pretend like these statements, which are grossly being made in the wake of his horrific murder, are some good faith attempts at investigative journalism.

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Kvetch said:

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Go touch grass. There's no "they" out to get you. Charlie was murdered by a leftist radical, and it had nothing to do with Israel, Bill Ackman, or Netanyahu. Stop listening to the folks taking out of context clips and pinning them to their Charlie Day conspiracy bulletin boards.

If you find yourself believing in a nondescript "they" that's pulling strings and out to get you, you have divorced yourself from reality. True conspiracies leave factual evidence that can be verified, like Russiagate and the covid gain of function coverup. Conspiracy theories can do nothing but posit questions based on circumstantial speculation.

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You are having a straw man argument with some fictitious person in your mind, I never said any of that.

Did candace actually say israel was responsible for charlie kirk's shooting? Or was she making a point about? Israeli influence in american politics?

I'm genuinely asking. From what I saw, it was the latter. I could be wrong though.

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In your eyes, what would be the purpose of claiming that Charlie was threatened by Israel and Bill Ackman just prior to his assassination? Do you not believe that the point is to insinuate Israeli involvement in an assassination plot? Why is she implying that Charlie was being "awoken" to the true evils of Israel, who she refers to as the "great Satan" just prior to his death?

Let's use some common sense and not pretend like these statements, which are grossly being made in the wake of his horrific murder, are some good faith attempts at investigative journalism.

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This. Her insinuations are patently obvious to anyone that wasn't already thinking the same thing.

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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I just skimmed the last few pages of this complete cluster F of a thread for entertainment purposes only. I used to get a good laugh at the "Candace 2024 give it to her" posts years ago. Nice to look at but she really did, eventually, come off as a grifter.

That said, is the bolded part really true? I don't this stuff anywhere near the level y'all do. I just read sh** on F16. Man, if that's the case she's beyond grifter and straight up looney tunes.

So she didn't actually say it?

Yeah, I get the point.
It can be inferred, but from what I saw, she went out of her way to say she's not accusing them of anything. She's just reinforcing her point about israeli influence.

Personally, i think it's very interesting that we are learning how all of our favorite podcasters and influencers are pressured by billionaires. ( Not just israeli). This isnt exclusive to Kirk.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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I just skimmed the last few pages of this complete cluster F of a thread for entertainment purposes only. I used to get a good laugh at the "Candace 2024 give it to her" posts years ago. Nice to look at but she really did, eventually, come off as a grifter.

That said, is the bolded part really true? I don't this stuff anywhere near the level y'all do. I just read sh** on F16. Man, if that's the case she's beyond grifter and straight up looney tunes.

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I don't know what's true, but there is a lot of really questionable stuff that went on with the moon landing. I know I know. save it.

Did you know there was an actual openly practicing satanist that worked for nasa? Some of you all need to read more seriously.

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So she didn't actually say it?

Yeah, I get the point.
It can be inferred, but from what I saw, she went out of her way to say she's not accusing them of anything. She's just reinforcing her point about israeli influence.

Personally, i think it's very interesting that we are learning how all of our favorite podcasters and influencers are pressured by billionaires. ( Not just israeli). This isnt exclusive to Kirk.

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She's talking out of both side of her mouth. She's "asking questions" while denying she's implying what she's obviously implying. The "evidence" she's relying on is the fact that Charlie had been the subject of controversy recently because of his inclusion of Tucker on a panel where Israel was discussed. As a result, there are clips of him talking to Megan Kelly and Ben Shapiro that are being taken out of context to insinuate that Charlie was "coming around" to the idea that Israel is a bad actor, when in reality it is Charlie voicing his frustration on the public criticism he got for platforming free speech.

You can't take what Candace is saying in a vacuum. She has established a long track record of who she is, and she has frequently spread patently false information about Israel and the Jews writ large. If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend she's being an honest broker, I can't help you.

Like I said, if you have SPECIFIC claims that you want to hash out, get ahead and posit them. Otherwise, you're just defending people that are pathologically antisemitic and are using Charlie's murder to further promote their vile ideology.

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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Don't forget that Macron is actually married to his dad or something. She's ******ed.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Farmer_J said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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I just skimmed the last few pages of this complete cluster F of a thread for entertainment purposes only. I used to get a good laugh at the "Candace 2024 give it to her" posts years ago. Nice to look at but she really did, eventually, come off as a grifter.

That said, is the bolded part really true? I don't this stuff anywhere near the level y'all do. I just read sh** on F16. Man, if that's the case she's beyond grifter and straight up looney tunes.

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Yes, her new thing is "space is fake and g*y." She also uses "satanists" as an explanation for almost everything now.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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I just skimmed the last few pages of this complete cluster F of a thread for entertainment purposes only. I used to get a good laugh at the "Candace 2024 give it to her" posts years ago. Nice to look at but she really did, eventually, come off as a grifter.

That said, is the bolded part really true? I don't this stuff anywhere near the level y'all do. I just read sh** on F16. Man, if that's the case she's beyond grifter and straight up looney tunes.

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Yes. The words are quoted are her words.

I just watched an interview she did with some British guy and now I have a new favorite Candace quote!

"Dinosaurs, that seems pretty fake and gay."

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Farmer_J said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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Don't forget that Macron is actually married to his dad or something. She's ******ed.

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Some of you have to be bots

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

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I'm a big fan of her "space is fake", the moon landing is hoax, and NASA has "satanic origins".

Really looking forward to her upcoming flat earth series.

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Don't forget that Macron is actually married to his dad or something. She's ******ed.

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Some of you have to be bots

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My wife and I watched her whole series on the Macrons and it made absolutely no sense. She didn't even come to a conclusion at the end of it. My wife use to have a small interest in Candace and she was completely turned off by how awful that series was.

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I thought the republicans loved Elon and the twitters because of, well free speech and what not?!?!?

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Conservatives are for free speech. Even in the OP's link the majority of respondents agree, let her speak. Only a very small minority advocate her ban from Twitter.

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I thought the republicans loved Elon and the twitters because of, well free speech and what not?!?!?

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If she didn't speak, we wouldn't know what a nothin nutjob she is. What conservatives don't like is the left trying to link her in and use her as some kind of example.

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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If the only source is Owens, there is probably no reason to give this any thought.

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I believe Max Blumenthal alluded to it in his gray zone article. And another right winger has claimed he independently verified it.

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This is the article in the Grayzone. I'm not familiar with the outlet so don't have any experience to comment on biases, real or imagined. There is other recent material out there where Charlie expressed concern about Israel. His recent interview with Megyn Kelly and a podcast where he had Ben Shapiro on. Sharing the article for context.

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/15/bill-ackman-israel-intervention-charlie-kirk/

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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If the only source is Owens, there is probably no reason to give this any thought.

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I believe Max Blumenthal alluded to it in his gray zone article. And another right winger has claimed he independently verified it.

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This is the article in the Grayzone. I'm not familiar with the outlet so don't have any experience to comment on biases, real or imagined. There is other recent material out there where Charlie expressed concern about Israel. His recent interview with Megyn Kelly and a podcast where he had Ben Shapiro on. Sharing the article for context.

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/15/bill-ackman-israel-intervention-charlie-kirk/

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His interview with Megan Kelly where he was visibly frustrated with Israel and zionist donors came the day after the meeting with Ackman apparently.

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Just to be clear what happened here:

Far-left pro-terror propagandists (Grayzone) who hated Charlie Kirk invented a narrative about an event at the Hamptons to lie about him, push falsehoods about his views, and encourage a conspiracy about who killed him. Candace Owens sided with those propagandists and tried to exploit his death to do the same.

Multiple people at the event, Charlie's team, and his close friends have had to pause their mourning to publicly dispute these lies.

His pastor has had to come out to publicly admonish Candace Owens directly for how she is exploiting his death.

I realize it's hard for people to sometimes be able to tell what is happening. But if you can't figure out who is lying and the character of those people in this case, then you need to seriously re-evaluate your connection to reality.

There are truly awful people in the world. Some have used the last few days to celebrate the murder of a young father and husband with political opinions they didn't like. Others have used that same murder to push their personal agenda of hate and conspiracies. I would argue the latter are even worse than the former. Don't forget who they are or what they did.

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Just to be clear what happened here:

Far-left pro-terror propagandists (Grayzone) who hated Charlie Kirk invented a narrative about an event at the Hamptons to lie about him, push falsehoods about his views, and encourage a conspiracy about who killed him. Candace Owens sided…

— AG (@AGHamilton29) September 16, 2025

Appreciate the post. Had never heard of The Grayzone before today. Won't be spending any time on that site.

The biggest Candace Owens conspiracy is that she denies having postpartum psychosis.

She is bat **** crazy and preys on the weak minded.

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She is bat **** crazy and preys on the weak minded.

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And antisemites are some of the weakest minded people on the planet which is why they defend her to the death.

They simply blame the Jews for all of their problems and all of the world's problems, while acting as though they are the most intelligent people on Earth simply because of whom they hate.

Sick & vile.

Candace just told off Charlie's pastor 🤦🏼‍♀️

"Why don't you focus on being more honest as a pastor, and giving as much information as you can possibly provide, so we can continue this investigation. If you can't do this, I'm going to have to ask for your silence. Be quiet." pic.twitter.com/GLDzNSVuyR

— Britta | NoSoup4Knowles (@nosoup4knowles) September 17, 2025

Demonic.

Today's Candace quote, truly a brilliant woman…

"I'm not a flat earther. I'm not a round earther."

I'll just note that TPU had VP Vance as their first guest host, followed by the DailyWire crew.

So for all this invented friction between Kirk and Shapiro, they flew out to immediately help TPU.

So unless we are now turning this into the classic TPU didn't represent Kirk's views, it seems people like Candace are FOS.

Why people bother with her is beyond me. She has no credibility.

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Today's Candace quote, truly a brilliant woman…

"I'm not a flat earther. I'm not a round earther."

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Maybe she's an oblate spheroid earther?

I didn't know Michael Savage was still around, but he destroys her here and points out exactly what she is. Someone that makes a living appealing to morons that just want to hate Jews.

Must watch: Michael Savage just unleashed an epic rant on Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson for blaming Israel over Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

He accused them of twisting reality, spreading lies, and fueling conspiracies. Savage called their rhetoric reckless, harmful, and… pic.twitter.com/vU1reRRRfo

— AP (@Average_NY_Guy) September 18, 2025

It’s crazy how I never once said that Israel murdered Charlie Kirk but the Zionists are all repeating that without a shred of evidence.

Remember, if they aren’t lying they aren’t breathing.

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) September 17, 2025

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It’s crazy how I never once said that Israel murdered Charlie Kirk but the Zionists are all repeating that without a shred of evidence.

Remember, if they aren’t lying they aren’t breathing.

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) September 17, 2025

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She doesn't have to say it directly.

She has clearly implied it plenty of times.

Sorry your girl is a psycho.

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It’s crazy how I never once said that Israel murdered Charlie Kirk but the Zionists are all repeating that without a shred of evidence.

Remember, if they aren’t lying they aren’t breathing.

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) September 17, 2025

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She doesn't have to say it directly.

She has clearly implied it plenty of times.

Sorry your girl is a psycho.

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I'm making fun of her. She's not my girl. She's ******ed.