We (conservatives) are starting to look really foolish.

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Ryan the Temp
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I think the big bump in enthusiasm for Harris is from a lot of folks who had really hoped Biden would face a primary challenge, but when he didn't felt disillusioned by him as their choice over Trump. Biden dropping out gave all those folks a reason to feel engaged again.
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Barnyard96 said:

Good thing Independents decide.


AMEN
girlfriend_experience
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pretty sure OP is not conservative these threads have nothing to do with politics but rather read like a diary entry.
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Tom Fox said:

Average Joe said:

Martin Cash said:

She's enjoying the post-Biden bump. That will go away when people realize just how vapid she really is.
No it won't. That's the problem with politics being completely about 'sticking it to the dems' or 'sticking it to the GOP/MAGA/Republicans'. The democrats don't care how vapid she is because she's not Trump and she's younger than Biden.
What does that have to do with the issues?
That's the point. It doesn't.

The Democrats only want to win. They would literally vote for Trump if he was the Democrat candidate.
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It's going to be a tough four years but it's necessary. America will survive. This MIGHT be what it takes to get the GOP to get their act together and work toward solutions and not just Bible thumping and rhetoric. For whatever reason, the right didn't get the memo in 2020. I've met more 2016 Trump voters that are now voting intentionally for Harris than 2016 Trump voters that will vote for him again. As long as we have extreme stances on abortion, marijuana, and hotheads more interested in hearing themselves talk than getting the country on track, we will continue to lose elections. Hopefully they get it together before it's too late. As everyone says "this is what you voted for".
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Barnyard96 said:

Omg, these threads

I guess the MSM machine does have an affect on some people.


I'm not keeping track of the history of the posters on here, but I'd like to think they're very new to politics, like they only started being involved when Trump became the nominee back in '15.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Hungry Ojos said:

I think we need to accept the fact that Trump is not going to win. Harris is up in all of the polls, she's starting to gather huge crowds, and the MSM is doing everything in its power to push her across. Trump simply cannot win another general election. He is entirely too hated. Plus, he just refuses to change. He won't listen to advisors, won't prepare for debates, won't shut the **** up about stuff that doesn't matter, and continues to step on his own dick. Harris has to be the weakest presidential candidate of all time, and has a record of absolute patheticness…and is still going to win.

But instead of accepting that, we are putting our fingers in our ears and saying "nuh-uh", "polls are rigged and fake" or "lol, just wait till Harris implodes at the debates!" None of that is going to happen. It's entirely wishful thinking. The one thing the right is not doing however, is forcing Trump to change by NOT showing up at his stupid rallies or ending campaign contributions until he changes.

I honestly cannot fathom how he ****ed this up. He survived an assassination attempt and ended Biden's political career…only to lose to the most unqualified, idiotic, vapid excuse for a candidate imaginable.

Republicans are completely outmatched and will continue to lose in perpetuity. The left is sooooooooooo much better at politics than we are, and when you add in the MSM, Hollywood, illegals, the courts, etc., it ends up being too much.

If America survives this next four years, Republicans are going to have to do something dramatic to stay relevant. Populism didn't work, true conservatism (DeSantis) was rejected for more carnival barking, and it's only getting more bleak.

I don't know what the answer is, but this ain't it. There is zero excuse for losing this election. Yet here we are.
I'm an independent voter and I agree that Trump makes Republicans look bad. But Kamala Harris makes Democrats look absolutely awful. It's another election where you have to choose the lesser of 2 evils and for me it's looking like an easy choice and it ain't Kamala.
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Hungry Ojos said:

I think we need to accept the fact that Trump is not going to win. Harris is up in all of the polls, she's starting to gather huge crowds, and the MSM is doing everything in its power to push her across. Trump simply cannot win another general election. He is entirely too hated. Plus, he just refuses to change. He won't listen to advisors, won't prepare for debates, won't shut the **** up about stuff that doesn't matter, and continues to step on his own dick. Harris has to be the weakest presidential candidate of all time, and has a record of absolute patheticness…and is still going to win.

But instead of accepting that, we are putting our fingers in our ears and saying "nuh-uh", "polls are rigged and fake" or "lol, just wait till Harris implodes at the debates!" None of that is going to happen. It's entirely wishful thinking. The one thing the right is not doing however, is forcing Trump to change by NOT showing up at his stupid rallies or ending campaign contributions until he changes.

I honestly cannot fathom how he ****ed this up. He survived an assassination attempt and ended Biden's political career…only to lose to the most unqualified, idiotic, vapid excuse for a candidate imaginable.

Republicans are completely outmatched and will continue to lose in perpetuity. The left is sooooooooooo much better at politics than we are, and when you add in the MSM, Hollywood, illegals, the courts, etc., it ends up being too much.

If America survives this next four years, Republicans are going to have to do something dramatic to stay relevant. Populism didn't work, true conservatism (DeSantis) was rejected for more carnival barking, and it's only getting more bleak.

I don't know what the answer is, but this ain't it. There is zero excuse for losing this election. Yet here we are.
1. AI generated pictures of crowds
2. Paying influencers to post
3. Checking IDs (ironic) of invitees to rallies and getting paid to attend
4. No policies on website
5. No interviews
6. Tech trying to wiping her record off of the internet
7. News orgs changing their articles

We can go on...
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People buying into the MSM press hype and bs polls. They may be right but they also may not be.
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BrazosDog02 said:

It's going to be a tough four years but it's necessary. America will survive. This MIGHT be what it takes to get the GOP to get their act together and work toward solutions and not just Bible thumping and rhetoric. For whatever reason, the right didn't get the memo in 2020. I've met more 2016 Trump voters that are now voting intentionally for Harris than 2016 Trump voters that will vote for him again. As long as we have extreme stances on abortion, marijuana, and hotheads more interested in hearing themselves talk than getting the country on track, we will continue to lose elections. Hopefully they get it together before it's too late. As everyone says "this is what you voted for".


Wow! Extreme stances? Have you seen democrat stances on abortion and Kamala's record of jailing minorities for minor possession violations?

Resending Roe vs Wade just put the abortion question back to the states. Several states passed unrestricted abortion. In those states you can kill a baby at 9 months.

Some states passed strict abortion restrictions.

The reality is that since the abortion issue has been returned to the states, by traveling to more liberal states abortion has far fewer restrictions than with Roe vs Wade.

Shouldn't the people of each state decide?

Your logic shows how the media controls the message and how it is blindly accepted. Here is how a biased media is used to decide the election rather than informed voters.
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Pumpkinhead said:



Either in 2025 or 2028 the GOP party is eventually going to move away from Trump to new leadership and campaign approaches.
The future of the GOP is 100% in the populism camp. There is no other way to win.

The MSM will paint every single populist with the same brush as Trump.

Until suburban Moms start to get really, really hurt economically, we are going to see the same crap we have been seeing for the last 4 years.
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I've met more 2016 Trump voters that are now voting intentionally for Harris than 2016 Trump voters that will vote for him again.


No you haven't
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If Harris wins after what hashappened over the past 4 years then the country is in a flat spin it will not recover from.
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BrazosDog02 said:

It's going to be a tough four years but it's necessary. America will survive. This MIGHT be what it takes to get the GOP to get their act together and work toward solutions and not just Bible thumping and rhetoric. For whatever reason, the right didn't get the memo in 2020. I've met more 2016 Trump voters that are now voting intentionally for Harris than 2016 Trump voters that will vote for him again. As long as we have extreme stances on abortion, marijuana, and hotheads more interested in hearing themselves talk than getting the country on track, we will continue to lose elections. Hopefully they get it together before it's too late. As everyone says "this is what you voted for".


Just so everyone knows, this is a complete ****ing lie.
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BusterAg said:

Pumpkinhead said:



Either in 2025 or 2028 the GOP party is eventually going to move away from Trump to new leadership and campaign approaches.
The future of the GOP is 100% in the populism camp. There is no other way to win.

The MSM will paint every single populist with the same brush as Trump.

Until suburban Moms start to get really, really hurt economically, we are going to see the same crap we have been seeing for the last 4 years.


Suburban moms vote 50/45 Republican/democrat
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hotheads more interested in hearing themselves talk than getting the country on track,
Can you please point to the policy mistakes of Trump?

I mean, he had trouble fighting the deep state, but who hasn't?

Trump absolutely had this country back on track in Xmas of 2019.
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If kamala wins then you know the D's control the elections, regardless of the actual votes. Banana republic. Enjoy the show.
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I have come to the conclusion that this country's citizens are to stupid for this country to survive.

That is why I am just hunkering down for Harris is going to win, no matter what Trump does or even Desantis for the Democrats are going to do what they did in 2020.

They tested their methods and won. Now they had four years to plan and coordinate another one.

We are now a first world country with third world voting, just like Venezuela.

There is just to much corruption, to include the MSM, and to much money.
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Hungry Ojos said:

I think we need to accept the fact that Trump is not going to win. Harris is up in all of the polls, she's starting to gather huge crowds, and the MSM is doing everything in its power to push her across.
I remember when the polls had hildabeast winning, right up to election day. Glad enough people ignored the polls and gloom and doom posts and voted.
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You're being gaslit bro
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BrazosDog02 said:

It's going to be a tough four years but it's necessary. America will survive. This MIGHT be what it takes to get the GOP to get their act together and work toward solutions and not just Bible thumping and rhetoric. For whatever reason, the right didn't get the memo in 2020. I've met more 2016 Trump voters that are now voting intentionally for Harris than 2016 Trump voters that will vote for him again. As long as we have extreme stances on abortion, marijuana, and hotheads more interested in hearing themselves talk than getting the country on track, we will continue to lose elections. Hopefully they get it together before it's too late. As everyone says "this is what you voted for".
Few believe you. No Trump voter is going to vote for harris. What has the biden-harris administration done to get the country on track? Top ten things would be plenty.

"Bible thumping" is a huge tell, btw.
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BusterAg said:

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hotheads more interested in hearing themselves talk than getting the country on track,
Can you please point to the policy mistakes of Trump?

I mean, he had trouble fighting the deep state, but who hasn't?

Trump absolutely had this country back on track in Xmas of 2019.



I mostly agree. Trump however wasn't perfect, especially with COVID.

With COVID he did great by letting state and local governments take the lead with the federal government providing support.

However, his biggest mistake was relying on Fauci after Fauci showed he was flipping 180 degrees on masks and other topics. Fauci proved to be a fraud early on. Trump should have fired him within 1-2 months of the pandemic.

With the information available and unknowns, shutting the economy down for two weeks might have been understandable. However, if two weeks didn't slow down the disease, going beyond that timeframe was pointless. He should have been stronger regarding the economic loss vs the transmission of the virus.

His next COVID mistake, which is almost as bad or possibly worse as keeping the Doctor of Death, was signing the COVID relief congressional money grabs. The first one might have helped restart the economy, but the second one was an unnecessary barrel of pork. That uncontrolled spending played a role in the inflation. Once the pandemic was subsiding it seemed that the economy was beginning to recover until Biden and Harris uncontrolled spending on GND malarkey fueled inflation further.

Trump was not perfect, but he was excellent with foreign policy and he handled the economy quite well.
Even pre-COVID he was spending too much. He needed to cut the government before spending money on big ticket items.

Note that on this forum some have accused me of being a mega-MAGA. I believe that with the obstacles that he had from an unfriendly propaganda machine (MSM) and lack of support from both parties, and illegal meddling by establishment agencies, Trump did an excellent job as president. He could have been even better if his own party would have supported him during his first two years. But he wasn't perfect.
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Starting? No. The foolishness started when I had to explain to my five year old what Trump meant that he could just grab a lady by the privates. He became a no vote from me then and continues to earn that spot any time he makes a mockery of the Christian faith.

Edit: I voted Republican prior to Trump. He alienated voters you'll never get back by shifting the party to the Tea Party or MAGA extremists.
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TA-OP said:

Starting? No. The foolishness started when I had to explain to my five year old what Trump meant that he could just grab a lady by the privates. He became a no vote from me then and continues to earn that spot any time he makes a mockery of the Christian faith.


So you are voting for someone who used sexual favors to start her political career?

If you are looking for character in your candidate's history, you probably should sit this one out and enjoy our conversion to Venezuela.
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It's all hearsay or a smear campaign until I hear her on tape admitting as such. Trump did.
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TA-OP said:

Starting? No. The foolishness started when I had to explain to my five year old what Trump meant that he could just grab a lady by the privates. He became a no vote from me then and continues to earn that spot any time he makes a mockery of the Christian faith.

Edit: I voted Republican prior to Trump. He alienated voters you'll never get back by shifting the party to the Tea Party or MAGA extremists.


He could grab my wife by the ***** and I would hit him, but I'm still voting for him over communist Harris.

What's wrong with you? The person running doesn't matter, just the platform. Good god it is hard to believe this board is made up of college graduates.
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TA-OP said:

Starting? No. The foolishness started when I had to explain to my five year old what Trump meant that he could just grab a lady by the privates. He became a no vote from me then and continues to earn that spot any time he makes a mockery of the Christian faith.

Edit: I voted Republican prior to Trump. He alienated voters you'll never get back by shifting the party to the Tea Party or MAGA extremists.
Did you explain to your five year old what gender conversion was? If not, why?

It's part of the policy of the Harris/Walz campaign.

And I don't believe you voted Republican prior to Trump but then you supported HRC, Biden, and now Harris.
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TA-OP said:

It's all hearsay or a smear campaign until I hear her on tape admitting as such. Trump did.
No he didn't.
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Hungry Ojos said:

I think we need to accept the fact that Trump is not going to win. Harris is up in all of the polls, she's starting to gather huge crowds, and the MSM is doing everything in its power to push her across. Trump simply cannot win another general election. He is entirely too hated. Plus, he just refuses to change. He won't listen to advisors, won't prepare for debates, won't shut the **** up about stuff that doesn't matter, and continues to step on his own dick. Harris has to be the weakest presidential candidate of all time, and has a record of absolute patheticness…and is still going to win.

But instead of accepting that, we are putting our fingers in our ears and saying "nuh-uh", "polls are rigged and fake" or "lol, just wait till Harris implodes at the debates!" None of that is going to happen. It's entirely wishful thinking. The one thing the right is not doing however, is forcing Trump to change by NOT showing up at his stupid rallies or ending campaign contributions until he changes.

I honestly cannot fathom how he ****ed this up. He survived an assassination attempt and ended Biden's political career…only to lose to the most unqualified, idiotic, vapid excuse for a candidate imaginable.

Republicans are completely outmatched and will continue to lose in perpetuity. The left is sooooooooooo much better at politics than we are, and when you add in the MSM, Hollywood, illegals, the courts, etc., it ends up being too much.

If America survives this next four years, Republicans are going to have to do something dramatic to stay relevant. Populism didn't work, true conservatism (DeSantis) was rejected for more carnival barking, and it's only getting more bleak.

I don't know what the answer is, but this ain't it. There is zero excuse for losing this election. Yet here we are.

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TA-OP said:

It's all hearsay or a smear campaign until I hear her on tape admitting as such. Trump did.


Right. And Hunter's laptop was Russian propaganda.
You seem awfully thin skinned and defensive regarding your democrats.
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TA-OP said:

Starting? No. The foolishness started when I had to explain to my five year old what Trump meant that he could just grab a lady by the privates. He became a no vote from me then and continues to earn that spot any time he makes a mockery of the Christian faith.

Edit: I voted Republican prior to Trump. He alienated voters you'll never get back by shifting the party to the Tea Party or MAGA extremists.


That's part of my thinking, too. I also remember Trump from when I was in HS in the 1980s. He's the same grifter now as he was back then but too old for the playboy image he use to sell. Nowadays he's just the best at anything instead. The Bible con was really distasteful
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jamey said:

TA-OP said:

Starting? No. The foolishness started when I had to explain to my five year old what Trump meant that he could just grab a lady by the privates. He became a no vote from me then and continues to earn that spot any time he makes a mockery of the Christian faith.

Edit: I voted Republican prior to Trump. He alienated voters you'll never get back by shifting the party to the Tea Party or MAGA extremists.


That's part of my thinking, too. I also remember Trump from when I was in HS in the 1980s. He's the same grifter now as he was back then but too old for the playboy image he use to sell. Nowadays he's just the best at anything instead. The Bible con was really distasteful


Yes. He was a democrat then, and they loved him.
Once he ran as a republican, he became Hitler.
The hypocrisy of the left is beyond sickening.
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He kind of did….

 
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