Trump classified documents case dismissed

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Praise JESUS.

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9:01a, 7/15/24
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https://deadline.com/2024/07/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-1236010295/


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A federal judge tossed out the criminal classified documents case against Donald Trump, ruling that the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith violated the appointments clause of the Constitution.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon issued the ruling today. Trump had been charged with withholding documents and obstructing justice after he left the White House.


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9:01a, 7/15/24
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They finally realized that this law fare to take Trump
Down was only making him stronger.
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9:02a, 7/15/24
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Melt Down in coming!!!
Good Day.
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9:02a, 7/15/24
Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.
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9:02a, 7/15/24
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Now can we charge Biden for election interference?
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9:02a, 7/15/24
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So that Ed Meese amicus had the legs I thought it did. Also didn't make sense that Trump would receive intel briefings while under indictment for espionage.

Yee-haw!
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Can't wait for the purple haired screaming soliloquies to start filling up the socials.
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9:05a, 7/15/24
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Good. Never should have been filed to begin with.

It'll be interesting to see the gnashing of teeth from Dems and their rhetoric in light of what happened over the weekend.
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9:05a, 7/15/24
This appears to be the appropriate legal decision. It's not going to stop screams of bias.
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9:06a, 7/15/24
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I guess they are feeling WAY WAY too much heat for what just went down, trying to throw a bone to calm things down… it's probably too late after what just happened
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9:07a, 7/15/24
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It appears that someone read the Thomas concurrence
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9:07a, 7/15/24
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How does this affect the D.C. case? Wasn't Jack Smith also on that one, or is that one safe (appointments clause) because there are other confirmed prosecutors involved?
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In reply to fullback44 • 9:08a, 7/15/24
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fullback44 said:
I guess they are feeling WAY WAY too much heat for what just went down, trying to throw a bone to calm things down… it's probably too late after what just happened
jack smith didn't voluntarily dismiss it - judge cannon threw it out. now....will the feds appeal? before the weekend, I'd say yes. now....???
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9:08a, 7/15/24
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The Biden liberals are making a run to walmart to stock up on depends after this announcement.
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 9:08a, 7/15/24
P.H. Dexippus said:
It appears that someone read the Thomas concurrence
Was about to post the same thing.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to sanangelo • 9:09a, 7/15/24
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sanangelo said:

Missed again...
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In reply to fredfredunderscorefred • 9:10a, 7/15/24
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Ok, I didn't follow this very close so I don't know all the names who are involved … I just always thought it was a joke and did not really pay attention to it
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In reply to 4stringAg • 9:10a, 7/15/24
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Good. Never should have been filed to begin with.

It'll be interesting to see the gnashing of teeth from Dems and their rhetoric in light of what happened over the weekend.
It seems they are asking R's to "tone down their rhetoric".

"You are being watched..."
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 9:10a, 7/15/24
Finally. Now get this in front of a judge that knows what they are doing.
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 9:10a, 7/15/24
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P.H. Dexippus said:
It appears that someone read the Thomas concurrence
Could you explain? I dont know what he said...
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:11a, 7/15/24
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aggiehawg said:
So that Ed Meese amicus had the legs I thought it did. Also didn't make sense that Trump would receive inel briefings while under indictment for espionage.

Yee-haw!
But, some people were so ADAMANT it was frivolous to allege this...
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9:11a, 7/15/24
Of course it was for that. In what universe did you think it was okay to post a naked man spreading open his butt cheeks on our platform?
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9:11a, 7/15/24
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It was a sham from the beginning... now, will they dismiss the other fraud cases so we can move on?
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In reply to fullback44 • 9:11a, 7/15/24
fullback44 said:
I guess they are feeling WAY WAY too much heat for what just went down, trying to throw a bone to calm things down… it's probably too late after what just happened


This wasn't whipped up over the weekend. The judge was likely working on this for weeks or months. The timing of the convention this week is more likely for the drop today. Big win for all. Except Jack(ass) Smith
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 9:12a, 7/15/24
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AtticusMatlock said:
This appears to be the appropriate legal decision. It's not going to stop screams of bias.
Agree. When I first read that Meese amicus brief raising this issue, I found it quite persuasive and solid.

Once again, Smith kind of screwed his case up by overcharging. Stick to obstruction charges based on the grand jury subpoena, keep the CIPA stuff out and get a clean pretrial procedure and get to court. But he didn't do that.

And by extension, the Jan 6th case (what is left of it) will likely be dismissed on the same grounds.

Thomas' concurring opinion in the immunity case was only missing the words, "Dear Judge Aileen Cannon,"
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 9:12a, 7/15/24
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AgGrad99 said:
P.H. Dexippus said:
It appears that someone read the Thomas concurrence
Could you explain? I dont know what he said...


He said, "Aileen, get that **** out of here please"
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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 9:13a, 7/15/24
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Bunk Moreland said:
fullback44 said:
I guess they are feeling WAY WAY too much heat for what just went down, trying to throw a bone to calm things down… it's probably too late after what just happened


This wasn't whipped up over the weekend. The judge was likely working on this for weeks or months. The timing of the convention this week is more likely for the drop today. Big win for all. Except Jack(ass) Smith
She held a three day hearing on this issue a few weeks back, so you are correct in that it had been in the works since then.
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In reply to MiamiHopper • 9:14a, 7/15/24
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MiamiHopper said:
Finally. Now get this in front of a judge that knows what they are doing.

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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 9:15a, 7/15/24
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I'm no expert on any of these Trump cases… I figured all these cases were just BS to stsrt with
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 9:16a, 7/15/24
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AgGrad99 said:
P.H. Dexippus said:
It appears that someone read the Thomas concurrence
Could you explain? I dont know what he said...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf
starting on page 52
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SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
No. 23939
DONALD J. TRUMP, PETITIONER v. UNITED STATES
ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF
APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
[July 1, 2024]

JUSTICE THOMAS, concurring.
Few things would threaten our constitutional order more than criminally prosecuting a former President for his official acts. Fortunately, the Constitution does not permit us to chart such a dangerous course. As the Court forcefully explains, the Framers "deemed an energetic executive essential to . . . the security of liberty," and our "system of separated powers" accordingly insulates the President from prosecution for his official acts. Ante, at 10, 42 (internal quotation marks omitted). To conclude otherwise would hamstring the vigorous Executive that our Constitution envisions. "While the separation of powers may prevent us from righting every wrong, it does so in order to ensure that we do not lose liberty." Morrison v. Olson, 487 U. S. 654, 710711 (1988) (Scalia, J., dissenting). I write separately to highlight another way in which this prosecution may violate our constitutional structure. In this case, the Attorney General purported to appoint a private citizen as Special Counsel to prosecute a former President on behalf of the United States. But, I am not sure that any office for the Special Counsel has been "established by Law," as the Constitution requires. Art. II, 2, cl. 2. By requiring that Congress create federal offices "by Law," the Constitution imposes an important check against the President he cannot create offices at his pleasure. If there is no law establishing the office that the Special Counsel occupies, then he cannot proceed with this prosecution. A private citizen cannot criminally prosecute anyone, let alone a former President...
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