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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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What is he trying to say here?

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The implication is that someone knew there would be an attempt and they needed to ensure the patsy couldn't talk after.

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Guy opens fire at an event like that and the odds of him surviving are basically zero anyways.

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Crooks seemed confident he'd survive by creating a diversion and escaping. Crooks executes perfectly but somehow forgets to flip the on-switch for the IEDs in his vehicle. At some point he goes to use his remote and only then realizes he didn't turn 'em on. Goes through all this and then somehow pulls a Clark Griswold.

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Is there evidence he tried to detonate them? I think he had a plan to try and escape but obviously was a few cards short of a full deck.

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We saw the photo of the remote on the roof with the batteries out, but unknown whether the cops took it out or he had it right next to him. The snipers that had eyes on him while he was shooting would probably know whether they saw him fumbling with it.

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In the BCSO report it was stated that the SWAT officers retrieved it from his pockets along with his cell phone. They also stated they removed the battery because they were unsure what the remote was for initially. Once they found the IED in his car it was simply putting 2 and 2 together. It was mentioned in the report that the IED was rigged to be remotely detonated.

Makes sense. Sounds like he had it in his pocket. But it's also wild that if he was going to actually try and escape he'd have had the remote out and ready to roll.

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Makes sense. Sounds like he had it in his pocket. But it's also wild that if he was going to actually try and escape he'd have had the remote out and ready to roll.

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When he was spotted on the roof by both bystanders that were screaming all around him pointing at them and then to cop that got boosted up came eye to eye with him, he had to hurry because he was soon to be toast and he knew it.


I think his original plan was to nail Trump with a head shot and while the chaos broke out detonate the car as a distraction and hot foot it to the van across the street and get away. Didn't work out well for him.

Agreed. Also displays the delusions of grandeur and sense of invincibility consistent with someone on psychotropics.

The buffer tube is used in cycling the bolt but shouldn't preclude taking one last shot. Of course Crook probably wasn't able to take another shot at that moment so it's likely a distinction without a difference.

Imagining Crooks probably peppered with shrapnel and disoriented from the hit.

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Somebody had to have created this narrative is the wild part. When in history has USSS advanced the narrative that they struggling to do their mission? Wild times.

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Getting out front with their excuses for any future attempts

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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What is he trying to say here?

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The implication is that someone knew there would be an attempt and they needed to ensure the patsy couldn't talk after.

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Guy opens fire at an event like that and the odds of him surviving are basically zero anyways.

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Crooks seemed confident he'd survive by creating a diversion and escaping. Crooks executes perfectly but somehow forgets to flip the on-switch for the IEDs in his vehicle. At some point he goes to use his remote and only then realizes he didn't turn 'em on. Goes through all this and then somehow pulls a Clark Griswold.

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Is there evidence he tried to detonate them? I think he had a plan to try and escape but obviously was a few cards short of a full deck.

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We saw the photo of the remote on the roof with the batteries out, but unknown whether the cops took it out or he had it right next to him. The snipers that had eyes on him while he was shooting would probably know whether they saw him fumbling with it.

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It's hard to even say those words...sounds so unbelievable and ridiculous...but that's what happened.

The latest report suggests that Butler comms were recorded so we should have some radio call from the guy that peeked over the roof or the guy that boosted him. Would like to know the exact amount of time that passed between looking over the roof and shots fired. Whatever amount of time elapsed it seems incredulous that the snipers couldn't have acquired him in that time. So were they looking at him while he set up and shot? We may never know.

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Somebody had to have created this narrative is the wild part. When in history has USSS advanced the narrative that they struggling to do their mission? Wild times.

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Seems like they shouldn't have made that assertion. It sends an unfortunate signal to more insane people. Not saying they are intentionally sending this message, just that they are incompetent.

Second story I've seen in three days. Both from WaPo.

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The latest report suggests that Butler comms were recorded so we should have some radio call from the guy that peeked over the roof or the guy that boosted him. Would like to know the exact amount of time that passed between looking over the roof and shots fired. Whatever amount of time elapsed it seems incredulous that the snipers couldn't have acquired him in that time. So were they looking at him while he set up and shot? We may never know.

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Had to have been some sort of radio call go out with the location of the shooter which prompted the Butler cop to acquire Crooks on the roof and take shot #9 off hand (from ground level).

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The buffer tube is used in cycling the bolt but shouldn't preclude taking one last shot. Of course Crook probably wasn't able to take another shot at that moment so it's likely a distinction without a difference.

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The buffer tube only operates the semi mode. You can go single shot by hand cycling the bolt but he may not have known that.

When that picatinny rail exploded in his face and fragged him I'm sure it set in that this wasn't just like his Call of Duty game and he didn't know what to do, and when he looked up he literally ate a ballistic tip 300 Win Mag.

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The latest report suggests that Butler comms were recorded so we should have some radio call from the guy that peeked over the roof or the guy that boosted him. Would like to know the exact amount of time that passed between looking over the roof and shots fired. Whatever amount of time elapsed it seems incredulous that the snipers couldn't have acquired him in that time. So were they looking at him while he set up and shot? We may never know.

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Had to have been some sort of radio call go out with the location of the shooter which prompted the Butler cop to acquire Crooks on the roof and take shot #9 off hand (from ground level).

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I posted this before radio calls were going out with the locals and cars were merging on the building

Here's closed captions from the dash cam of one of the merging cars. This guy was parked near the water tower area

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The latest report suggests that Butler comms were recorded so we should have some radio call from the guy that peeked over the roof or the guy that boosted him. Would like to know the exact amount of time that passed between looking over the roof and shots fired. Whatever amount of time elapsed it seems incredulous that the snipers couldn't have acquired him in that time. So were they looking at him while he set up and shot? We may never know.

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It was approximately 40 seconds from the time the officer fell down from climbing on the roof to first shots.

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I think his original plan was to nail Trump with a head shot and while the chaos broke out detonate the car as a distraction and hot foot it to the van across the street and get away. Didn't work out well for him.

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Did we ever get an explanation on how and when he prepositioned either the car or the van? This isn't walking distance of where he lived.

Wildest part about the whole story is that the first police encounter with Crooks was when he piggybacked into the designated police parking area and somebody immediately sends out a text alerting of that fact.

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I think his original plan was to nail Trump with a head shot and while the chaos broke out detonate the car as a distraction and hot foot it to the van across the street and get away. Didn't work out well for him.

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Did we ever get an explanation on how and when he prepositioned either the car or the van? This isn't walking distance of where he lived.

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My guess is he parked that car in the East parking lot of the AGR complex the day before because that parking lot was blocked off be local PD the day of the event. It was a plain white nondescript vehicle so wouldn't have drawn attention because there were several AGR vehicles in the parking lot and they were all white as well. He likely drove the van the day of the event and walked over around the west end of the complex. The FBI said he flew a drone two hours before the event was to begin. And he was seen walking around the south end of the building an hour before Trump took the stage. Them the swat guy took the photos of him on his phone at the southwest corner of the two story building sitting on that retaining wall 30 minutes before the first shot, and a few minutes later seen running across the rooftops and minutes later bang bang bang

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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What is he trying to say here?

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The implication is that someone knew there would be an attempt and they needed to ensure the patsy couldn't talk after.

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Guy opens fire at an event like that and the odds of him surviving are basically zero anyways.

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Crooks seemed confident he'd survive by creating a diversion and escaping. Crooks executes perfectly but somehow forgets to flip the on-switch for the IEDs in his vehicle. At some point he goes to use his remote and only then realizes he didn't turn 'em on. Goes through all this and then somehow pulls a Clark Griswold.

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Is there evidence he tried to detonate them? I think he had a plan to try and escape but obviously was a few cards short of a full deck.

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We saw the photo of the remote on the roof with the batteries out, but unknown whether the cops took it out or he had it right next to him. The snipers that had eyes on him while he was shooting would probably know whether they saw him fumbling with it.

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I don't think anyone has reported him doing anything except firing and then getting his head blown off. So as soon as one of the SS snipers had eyes on him all they would have seen was the results of their kill shot. Sounds like the Butler County sniper's shot stunned him at least and disabled his weapon so that probably saved a few more lives.

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I think his original plan was to nail Trump with a head shot and while the chaos broke out detonate the car as a distraction and hot foot it to the van across the street and get away. Didn't work out well for him.

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Did we ever get an explanation on how and when he prepositioned either the car or the van? This isn't walking distance of where he lived.

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My guess is he parked that car in the East parking lot of the AGR complex the day before because that parking lot was blocked off be local PD the day of the event. It was a plain white nondescript vehicle so wouldn't have drawn attention because there were several AGR vehicles in the parking lot and they were all white as well. He likely drove the van the day of the event and walked over around the west end of the complex. The FBI said he flew a drone two hours before the event was to begin. And he was seen walking around the south end of the building an hour before Trump took the stage. Them the swat guy took the photos of him on his phone at the southwest corner of the two story building sitting on that retaining wall 30 minutes before the first shot, and a few minutes later seen running across the rooftops and minutes later bang bang bang

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Have we heard who drove him 50 miles home when he dropped the car or van the day before?

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IF DJT can survive until being elected and inaugurated, he must clean house and completely rebuild the SS as well as all of the other Federal law enforcement agencies. Systemic corruption has overtaken them all! Might be a job for an Oliver North type. His very survival depends upon it!

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DJT needs to understand what cleaning out really means. He definitely didn't understand that during his first term as President.

For historical perspective, recall that Donald Trump selected Randolph "Tex" Alles (retired Marine MajGen and a Texas Aggie) to be the Director of the US Secret Service in 2017. Trump asked for Alles resignation in May 2019 after an unvetted Chinese national carrying four cell phones, seven SIM cards, nine flash drives, and $8k in cash was allowed enter to Mar a Lago and wander around. What followed is the typical revolving door from a high vis government agency executive job to a lower vis government agency Deputy Under Secretary job. Nice work if you can get it.

Alles resigned in May 2019 but landed on his feet two months later. In July 2019, Alles got a new job as Deputy Under Secretary of Homeland Security for Management where he was also dual hatted with his bosses title and still is assigned presently as the Acting Under Secretary of Homeland Security for Management i.e. he works for Alejandro Mayorkas if I understand the relationship correctly. It would be very interesting to know who was on the selection and hiring committee to recommend Alles for that job.

When Alles resigned as Director of USSS, he was succeeded by James Murray who served as Director from May 2019 until September 2022 when he retired and was succeeded by Kim Cheatle. James Murray is presently the Chief Security Officer for Snap, Inc (Snapchat).

From the James Murray's Wikipedia page:

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On July 7, 2022, Murray announced his retirement as Secret Service Director, to take effect July 30, 2022. Murray will take the role of Chief Security Officer at Snap Inc., parent company of Snapchat, on August 1, 2022.However, he announced on July 28, 2022 that he would "briefly" delay his retirement, in connection with the investigation into missing Secret Service records (see below). He left office on September 17, 2022.

Missing records investigation.
On July 14, 2022, it was reported that "Members of the U.S. Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders (...)" The next day the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol sent a subpoena to Murray seeking, "(...) the relevant text messages, as well as any after action reports that have been issued in any and all divisions of the USSS pertaining or relating in any way to the events of January 6, 2021." On July 20, 2022, Gladys Ayala, the Deputy Inspector General (IG) of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation." She directed the Secret Service to cease any internal investigations into the matter of failure of the agency to preserve the missing records.

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(Omitted from mention on the Wikipedia entry for Murray is that those missing text messages also include the messages related to the discovery and investigation of the pipe bomb at DNC HQ.)

Nope

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I think his original plan was to nail Trump with a head shot and while the chaos broke out detonate the car as a distraction and hot foot it to the van across the street and get away. Didn't work out well for him.

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Did we ever get an explanation on how and when he prepositioned either the car or the van? This isn't walking distance of where he lived.

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My guess is he parked that car in the East parking lot of the AGR complex the day before because that parking lot was blocked off be local PD the day of the event. It was a plain white nondescript vehicle so wouldn't have drawn attention because there were several AGR vehicles in the parking lot and they were all white as well. He likely drove the van the day of the event and walked over around the west end of the complex. The FBI said he flew a drone two hours before the event was to begin. And he was seen walking around the south end of the building an hour before Trump took the stage. Them the swat guy took the photos of him on his phone at the southwest corner of the two story building sitting on that retaining wall 30 minutes before the first shot, and a few minutes later seen running across the rooftops and minutes later bang bang bang

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Have we heard who drove him 50 miles home when he dropped the car or van the day before?

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Not seeing any info about that, but it would have been relatively easy for him to take an uber back home.

Not a typical ride. You would think that an Uber driver would remember that and have come forward, right?

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Not a typical ride. You would think that an Uber driver would remember that and have come forward, right?

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No clue, maybe they told the FBI but didn't want to be outed in public? Just pointing out that it wouldn't have been that hard to get a ride back.

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Not a typical ride. You would think that an Uber driver would remember that and have come forward, right?

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Pittsburgh Area Transit less than two hours by bus two transfers $7

Was just thinking out loud about verifying his mode of transportation. Thought it would be straightforward, but then again maybe not. Didn't mean to come across as arguing if that's how it read

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Was just thinking out loud about verifying his mode of transportation. Thought it would be straightforward, but then again maybe not. Didn't mean to come across as arguing if that's how it read

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Not at all taken as argumentative. Just looked it up out of curiosity on the website. Questions renders answers and there is no bad questions except for the ones that were not asked

Possible footage of Matthew Crooks at the Butler rally before shooting President Trump.

pic.twitter.com/55y603wwa2

— eve (@eveforamerica) August 19, 2024

That's him

Yep that's him

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The buffer tube is used in cycling the bolt but shouldn't preclude taking one last shot. Of course Crook probably wasn't able to take another shot at that moment so it's likely a distinction without a difference.

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The buffer tube only operates the semi mode. You can go single shot by hand cycling the bolt but he may not have known that.

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The buffer tube operates in full auto, semi auto and if need be, hand cycled for whatever reason. For instance a low charge. The bolt carrier needs to slide into that buffer tube regardless of how the action is cycled. Assuming you have one in the chamber, a rifle with a bent up or shot up buffer tube is more than likely one and done. This is because the bolt carrier would not be able to travel rearward to eject the spent brass. So... there would be no hand cycling or any other cycling. You now have a trotline weight.

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Yep that's him

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Looks like the Unabomber and Mason reincarnated. Fed drugs I bet,

We seeing what some predicted early on. Every few days another relevant video trickles out and we get another piece of the pie. We might see videos trickle out for a decade. Who knows what else is on peoples phones they haven't even looked at.

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We seeing what some predicted early on. Every few days another relevant video trickles out and we get another piece of the pie. We might see videos trickle out for a decade. Who knows what else is on peoples phones they haven't even looked at.

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limited dribble out. probably won't make the history books.