Once the shots are fired and Trump is underneath his protective detail, you can hear a female "agent" ask, "What are we doing?" How does she not know how protective details operate when under fire?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Augmenting Trump's security with random DHS and DEA people makes about as much sense as starting walk-ons in the college football playoff game.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:In light of recent developments,Stat Monitor Repairman said:One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."Stat Monitor Repairman said:Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.Quote:
Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.
Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.
We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.
What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?
What is more important than that?
Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.
What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?
What was it?
Does Kim testify on Monday the 22nd?
Does this even go down as scheduled?
Y / N
What say you?
TxAg82 said:
You can't prove that Dept. of Ag guy DIDN'T zipline down that tower into the getaway van driven by FBI director cougar. So it's still plausible.
Try and keep up.
TxAg82 said:
You can't prove that Dept. of Ag guy DIDN'T zipline down that tower into the getaway van driven by FBI director cougar. So it's still plausible.
Try and keep up.
Blue diamond for you.Prosperdick said:
Personally I think a lot of these new crazy theories are purposefully being put out there so they can be easily discredited and paint anyone who questions anything as just a conspiracy nut.
The MAJOR item that needs to be addressed is why Trump was allowed up on the stage when they knew a suspicious person was unaccounted for and potentially seen on top of the roof with a rifle.
That needs to be the focus right now, who was responsible for allowing Trump on that stage and heads should roll from there.
Stop getting lost in the weeds of different theories that likely will never be proven. Focus on who put a former POTUS in jeopardy and fire them.
if the shooter was on the water tower, then the angle of the missed shots would go into the stage floor, not the crowd. The bullet photo from the NYT photographer showed an almost horizontal path on the bullet that hit Trump.William Foster said:The perfectly placed head shot did not "miss". Trump just turned his head at the perfect time. It would have gone straight through the brain if not for that.VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
So the water tower shooter missed? Then either got smoked by a different sniper and his body was not publicly recovered or he jumped down on a line of some sort and escape? The Crooks kid was just a decoy I guess. If we could find out if two snipers shot and where did they shoot as well as if Crooks actually got a round off.
That being said, the water tower/zip line thing, being presented as fact up above, seems almost impossible.
The response to that line if she is dumb enough to use it is "Who is the subject of that investigation?" We know the shooter that we have been told about is dead, so there is no jeopardy to any investigation of him. If there is still an ongoing investigation that could be jeopardized, who is the subject and what is the nature of that investigation?"hsjnlssmith89 said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:In light of recent developments,Stat Monitor Repairman said:One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."Stat Monitor Repairman said:Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.Quote:
Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.
Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.
We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.
What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?
What is more important than that?
Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.
What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?
What was it?
Does Kim testify on Monday the 22nd?
Does this even go down as scheduled?
Y / N
What say you?
Does it even matter if she testifies?!!! Do you really think there is anything she will tell the committee?? "I can't answer that question due to it relating to an open investigation...". That is all that we will get along with a lot of non-answers!!!
DTP02 said:TxAg82 said:
You can't prove that Dept. of Ag guy DIDN'T zipline down that tower into the getaway van driven by FBI director cougar. So it's still plausible.
Try and keep up.
I can too prove it.
No self-respecting Cougar would ever resort to driving a non-descript Ag van. Luxury SUV or GTHO!
txags92 said:The response to that line if she is dumb enough to use it is "Who is the subject of that investigation?" We know the shooter that we have been told about is dead, so there is no jeopardy to any investigation of him. If there is still an ongoing investigation that could be jeopardized, who is the subject and what is the nature of that investigation?"hsjnlssmith89 said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:In light of recent developments,Stat Monitor Repairman said:One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."Stat Monitor Repairman said:Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.Quote:
Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.
Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.
We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.
What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?
What is more important than that?
Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.
What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?
What was it?
Does Kim testify on Monday the 22nd?
Does this even go down as scheduled?
Y / N
What say you?
Does it even matter if she testifies?!!! Do you really think there is anything she will tell the committee?? "I can't answer that question due to it relating to an open investigation...". That is all that we will get along with a lot of non-answers!!!
Great 3D illustration and explanation of events at the Trump Rally in Butler, Pennsylvania pic.twitter.com/UMu2WZczcn
— MAGS (@TAftermath2020) July 19, 2024
That is super impressive, and a good summary.Horn_in_Aggieland said:
SIAPGreat 3D illustration and explanation of events at the Trump Rally in Butler, Pennsylvania pic.twitter.com/UMu2WZczcn
— MAGS (@TAftermath2020) July 19, 2024
Totally agreed, I think the water tower theory is silly. I just have a habit of correcting people when they say the shot "missed". It was a well executed head shot that should have killed him, but for the insanely timely head turn.TexasAggie_02 said:if the shooter was on the water tower, then the angle of the missed shots would go into the stage floor, not the crowd. The bullet photo from the NYT photographer showed an almost horizontal path on the bullet that hit Trump.William Foster said:The perfectly placed head shot did not "miss". Trump just turned his head at the perfect time. It would have gone straight through the brain if not for that.VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
So the water tower shooter missed? Then either got smoked by a different sniper and his body was not publicly recovered or he jumped down on a line of some sort and escape? The Crooks kid was just a decoy I guess. If we could find out if two snipers shot and where did they shoot as well as if Crooks actually got a round off.
That being said, the water tower/zip line thing, being presented as fact up above, seems almost impossible.
That is excellentHorn_in_Aggieland said:
SIAPGreat 3D illustration and explanation of events at the Trump Rally in Butler, Pennsylvania pic.twitter.com/UMu2WZczcn
— MAGS (@TAftermath2020) July 19, 2024
More broadly, I don't even think most congressional committee testimony is all that important. It's more of a venue for the committee to make statements in the form of questions.hsjnlssmith89 said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:In light of recent developments,Stat Monitor Repairman said:One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."Stat Monitor Repairman said:Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.Quote:
Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.
Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.
We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.
What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?
What is more important than that?
Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.
What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?
What was it?
Does Kim testify on Monday the 22nd?
Does this even go down as scheduled?
Y / N
What say you?
Does it even matter if she testifies?!!! Do you really think there is anything she will tell the committee?? "I can't answer that question due to it relating to an open investigation...". That is all that we will get along with a lot of non-answers!!!
Yeah I don't think that video, while cool, is entirely accurate. I have questions. How many casings were retrieved from the roof by Crooks' body? They should know by now how many shots he got off before he was domed.Quote:
It was a great illustration…but I'd find it hard to imagine those two bullets represented in the black line didn't strike someone in the stands.
Point is that some live human being needs to sit in a hot-seat and answer to the American public for all this.Jeeper79 said:More broadly, I don't even think most congressional committee testimony is all that important. It's more of a venue for the committee to make statements in the form of questions.hsjnlssmith89 said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:In light of recent developments,Stat Monitor Repairman said:One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."Stat Monitor Repairman said:Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.Quote:
Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.
Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.
We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.
What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?
What is more important than that?
Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.
What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?
What was it?
Does Kim testify on Monday the 22nd?
Does this even go down as scheduled?
Y / N
What say you?
Does it even matter if she testifies?!!! Do you really think there is anything she will tell the committee?? "I can't answer that question due to it relating to an open investigation...". That is all that we will get along with a lot of non-answers!!!
TxAg82 said:
They are being put out there solely for clicks on social media.
aggiehawg said:Yeah I don't think that video, while cool, is entirely accurate. I have questions. How many casings were retrieved from the roof by Crooks' body? They should know by now how many shots he got off before he was domed.Quote:
It was a great illustration…but I'd find it hard to imagine those two bullets represented in the black line didn't strike someone in the stands.
Why hasn't that been made public?
FOIA will be ignored as well.Quote:
Point is that some live human being needs to sit in a hot-seat and answer to the American public for all this.
But thats not the point of it. We already know that we will get no answers. We know that.
If they get up and deflect as everyone expects, then it simply reaffirms what we already know.
Turnaround training lady's daughter.Madman said:That is excellentHorn_in_Aggieland said:
SIAPGreat 3D illustration and explanation of events at the Trump Rally in Butler, Pennsylvania pic.twitter.com/UMu2WZczcn
— MAGS (@TAftermath2020) July 19, 2024
Don't need a criminal or legal case to file a state open records request.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Agreed. FOIA will be met with a form letter response with a choose your exception. Appeal of the denial of a FOIA request is a black hole. You may hear back in 2-3 years or maybe never.
A case, any case in state court with supoena power might be as good as you gonna get.
True, guess my point is that Chris Kyle himself, with that specific gun, may very well fire off what he thought was the perfect kill shot...with perfect accuracy...and near miss because the subject turned the head at precisely the right time.TexasRebel said:
This is one of the times "near miss" is the proper term.
I will be SHOCKED if we get any answers whatsoever. There will be zero transparancy, answers, or accountability. ZERO.Stat Monitor Repairman said:Point is that some live human being needs to sit in a hot-seat and answer to the American public for all this.Jeeper79 said:More broadly, I don't even think most congressional committee testimony is all that important. It's more of a venue for the committee to make statements in the form of questions.hsjnlssmith89 said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:In light of recent developments,Stat Monitor Repairman said:One thing you'll notice about this Cheatle is that she tried to delay her congressional testimony saying in a letter that the July 22 date clashed with 'her travel and operational commitments."Stat Monitor Repairman said:Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.Quote:
Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.
Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.
We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.
What on earth could be more important than updating the American public as to why the former president and leading presidential candidate was shot on live tv?
What is more important than that?
Get all the big stuff out of the way at the hearing first, but somebody should ask that question.
What was on your schedule that would prevent you from testifying before the people's elected representatives?
What was it?
Does Kim testify on Monday the 22nd?
Does this even go down as scheduled?
Y / N
What say you?
Does it even matter if she testifies?!!! Do you really think there is anything she will tell the committee?? "I can't answer that question due to it relating to an open investigation...". That is all that we will get along with a lot of non-answers!!!
But thats not the point of it. We already know that we will get no answers. We know that.
If they get up and deflect as everyone expects, then it simply reaffirms what we already know.
And also that rounds went cleanly through the spectators and or / grandstands and struck the Gradall with enough force to bust a hydraulic line.Bighunter43 said:
It was a great illustration…but I'd find it hard to imagine those two bullets represented in the black line didn't strike someone in the stands.
