Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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rolo said:



Now it's the Iranians
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The checkpoints for what I can see were just at the entry into Butler Farms event area. The private property for AGR International is fenced off from Butler Farms, so it probably was not used for entry into the event and didn't have any checkpoints/metal detectors to get into the parking lot.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?
Read somewhere earlier that the kid bought a 5ft ladder at home depot and drove to the event in a nissan sentra.

So its safe to say it was one of those V folding ladders. that fold and collapse up to 5ft and extend to 20'.

In any event that particular type of ladder probably weighs 38-40 lbs or so and is awkward to carry for a long distance by a 120lb kid also carrying a rifle and a backpack.
So a kid would have had to awkwardly carry a ladder for a long distance through the industrial complex where the police sniper headquarters was located.

Not much would draw more attention than somebody awkwardly carrying a ladder. You see a random dude with a ladder your first reaction is 'ok whats going on with this mfer here'

You see some kid walking through your own neighborhood with a ladder you wondering what he up to and logging on Nextdoor to see if somebody reported a kid with a ladder.
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Didn't see this posted yet.
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I get that the excuse of a "slope" is a load of crap, but it appears to me that the building the snipers were positioned on has the exact same slope if not worse?
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AgBQ-00 said:

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The anchor has this expert Cory Mills on, and interrupts him several times, like she knows better. Shut the **** and let him speak.

"waiiiwaiiiwaiiiii Donald Trump says that we need to --dial it back -- do not blame this on Joe Biden"

"Well, I didnt say anything about Joe Biden..."

Imagine that, a CNN anchor, who are some of the dumbest people on planet earth, trying to interrupt and correct a US Army Sniper about basic security.

The nerve of this *****.
She's too stupid to understand what he is saying and is going into defend the party at all costs mode


He is clearly saying what got fu''kd up is so elementary and basic that it's almost a given that somebody had to intentionally mess it up for what happened to happen, and she just can't wrap her tiny brain around it because it doesn't fit their narrative.

The media is a freaking joke. Why aren't they out investigating this; instead of, questioning the opinions of experts that know more than them? it could be the story of a lifetime to break the news that the shooter had help, and it seems fairly possible he did...
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AgBQ-00 said:

BadMoonRisin said:



The anchor has this expert Cory Mills on, and interrupts him several times, like she knows better. Shut the **** and let him speak.

"waiiiwaiiiwaiiiii Donald Trump says that we need to --dial it back -- do not blame this on Joe Biden"

"Well, I didnt say anything about Joe Biden..."

Imagine that, a CNN anchor, who are some of the dumbest people on planet earth, trying to interrupt and correct a US Army Sniper about basic security.

The nerve of this *****.
She's too stupid to understand what he is saying and is going into defend the party at all costs mode


Wrong. She fully understands what is going on and her direction is clear. Talk over this guy so the people listening to CNN won't hear it.
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Hell has frozen over

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FriscoKid said:



Didn't see this posted yet.
Just seconds before that he went of teleprompter and started doing Trump "improv" we were so freaking close to having a national meltdown
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Ramdiesel said:

AgBQ-00 said:

BadMoonRisin said:



The anchor has this expert Cory Mills on, and interrupts him several times, like she knows better. Shut the **** and let him speak.

"waiiiwaiiiwaiiiii Donald Trump says that we need to --dial it back -- do not blame this on Joe Biden"

"Well, I didnt say anything about Joe Biden..."

Imagine that, a CNN anchor, who are some of the dumbest people on planet earth, trying to interrupt and correct a US Army Sniper about basic security.

The nerve of this *****.
She's too stupid to understand what he is saying and is going into defend the party at all costs mode


He is clearly saying what got fu''kd up is so elementary and basic that it's almost a given that somebody had to intentionally mess it up for what happened to happen, and she just can't wrap her tiny brain around it because it doesn't fit their narrative.

The media is a freaking joke. Why aren't they out investigating this; instead of, questioning the opinions of experts that know more than them? it could be the story of a lifetime to break the news that the shooter had help, and it seems fairly possible he did...


That has been my point for a while now.

And it's backed up with seeing all the lies being put out by the administration and how many times the narrative has changed.
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Yes and her brainwashing is so strong that it causes her to immediately jump to "he's attacking FJB, I must defend the party" She does not care what he was saying other than she perceived a threat to the party.
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If there was a conspiracy I think its the classic FBI online chat BS coupled with not passing info along to a purposely downgraded USSS.

I still can't get to anything close to second shooter type scenarios.
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Biggest Secret Service failing is why didn't they secure that building.

This afternoon, during local radio call-in show on KLJB (Austin), some random guy raised what may be for me the second biggest Secret Service failing I have heard thus far:

Why didn't they secure the stage area after the first shot? Sure, several of them dog-piled the president, but the ones not in the dog-pile stood around and let all comers storm and encircle the stage/president. How did they know there was absolutely no secondary threat from those individuals?

Whoever took the picture of President Trump's head, under the dog-pile, could have run him through the temple with a pointed mop handle.

I know nothing of protecting a head of state, but I would have immediately cleared a perimeter around the immediate area of the stage to assure no close-in assailant could inflict further damage. Push everyone back; don't willy-nilly let them have unabated access to the president.

The whole bizarre matter has been amplified ten-fold by their latest statement about a known credible Iranian threat.

The emperor has no clothes and everyone knows it. They know it, we know it, the blue haired screamers know it, the world knows it; and they don't give a sh#t.

They will stop at nothing. Biden or Harris or whoever will get 120,000 votes. They will take back the house and gain control of the senate. It doesn't matter that everyone knows such a result would be an impossibility. Why would it matter? Why has it mattered?

It hasn't mattered and they don't care.
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If security was ramped up due to Iranian threat, it must have been mall cop level before that.
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So much for the staff warning in OP asking for posters to stick to the facts.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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Yesterday the buidling was a command center for police. Today its the home of a second shooter.

Seems legit.
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DamnGood86 said:

Biggest Secret Service failing is why didn't they secure that building.

This afternoon, during local radio call-in show on KLJB (Austin), some random guy raised what may be for me the second biggest Secret Service failing I have heard thus far:

Why didn't they secure the stage area after the first shot? Sure, several of them dog-piled the president, but the ones not in the dog-pile stood around and let all comers storm and encircle the stage/president. How did they know there was absolutely no secondary threat from those individuals?

Whoever took the picture of President Trump's head, under the dog-pile, could have run him through the temple with a pointed mop handle.

I know nothing of protecting a head of state, but I would have immediately cleared a perimeter around the immediate area of the stage to assure no close-in assailant could inflict further damage. Push everyone back; don't willy-nilly let them have unabated access to the president.

The whole bizarre matter has been amplified ten-fold by their latest statement about a known credible Iranian threat.

The emperor has no clothes and everyone knows it. They know it, we know it, the blue haired screamers know it, the world knows it; and they don't give a sh#t.

They will stop at nothing. Biden or Harris or whoever will get 120,000 votes. They will take back the house and gain control of the senate. It doesn't matter that everyone knows such a result would be an impossibility. Why would it matter? Why has it mattered?

It hasn't mattered and they don't care.


120,000 votes won't win them Travis County.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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ShawnTxAg said:

I get that the excuse of a "slope" is a load of crap, but it appears to me that the building the snipers were positioned on has the exact same slope if not worse?


Elon feels the same


People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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So, who thinks Elon only bought Twitter so he could troll idiots in peace?
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There are two window choices…but without seeing a photo from the podium back to the building we cannot see how plausible the line of sight is.

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Science Denier said:

Ramdiesel said:

AgBQ-00 said:

BadMoonRisin said:



The anchor has this expert Cory Mills on, and interrupts him several times, like she knows better. Shut the **** and let him speak.

"waiiiwaiiiwaiiiii Donald Trump says that we need to --dial it back -- do not blame this on Joe Biden"

"Well, I didnt say anything about Joe Biden..."

Imagine that, a CNN anchor, who are some of the dumbest people on planet earth, trying to interrupt and correct a US Army Sniper about basic security.

The nerve of this *****.
She's too stupid to understand what he is saying and is going into defend the party at all costs mode


He is clearly saying what got fu''kd up is so elementary and basic that it's almost a given that somebody had to intentionally mess it up for what happened to happen, and she just can't wrap her tiny brain around it because it doesn't fit their narrative.

The media is a freaking joke. Why aren't they out investigating this; instead of, questioning the opinions of experts that know more than them? it could be the story of a lifetime to break the news that the shooter had help, and it seems fairly possible he did...


That has been my point for a while now.

And it's backed up with seeing all the lies being put out by the administration and how many times the narrative has changed.


The real question is will the FBI see it that way, that it is damn near impossible to screw up this bad without purposeful intention and start investigating the SS, State and Local Police? I doubt it...
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It's not plausible. There were multiple people videoing, dozens of people around the area with their attention on the building. How could a second shooter, firing from inside the building go unnoticed??

Until some sort of actual evidence is presented, not wild twitter speculation, can we stop discussing every theory imagined?
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Ramdiesel said:

Science Denier said:

Ramdiesel said:

AgBQ-00 said:

BadMoonRisin said:



The anchor has this expert Cory Mills on, and interrupts him several times, like she knows better. Shut the **** and let him speak.

"waiiiwaiiiwaiiiii Donald Trump says that we need to --dial it back -- do not blame this on Joe Biden"

"Well, I didnt say anything about Joe Biden..."

Imagine that, a CNN anchor, who are some of the dumbest people on planet earth, trying to interrupt and correct a US Army Sniper about basic security.

The nerve of this *****.
She's too stupid to understand what he is saying and is going into defend the party at all costs mode


He is clearly saying what got fu''kd up is so elementary and basic that it's almost a given that somebody had to intentionally mess it up for what happened to happen, and she just can't wrap her tiny brain around it because it doesn't fit their narrative.

The media is a freaking joke. Why aren't they out investigating this; instead of, questioning the opinions of experts that know more than them? it could be the story of a lifetime to break the news that the shooter had help, and it seems fairly possible he did...


That has been my point for a while now.

And it's backed up with seeing all the lies being put out by the administration and how many times the narrative has changed.


The real question is will the FBI see it that way, that it is damn near impossible to screw up this bad without purposeful intention and start investigating the SS, State and Local Police? I doubt it...


Lied about Russia Russia and the Clinton BS
Lied about Biden's laptop
Censored the media
Hell, they lied directly to a FISA Judge

Think they will tell the truth about trying to assimilate Trump?
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We need to flag the speculation posts.
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aginlakeway said:

RAMPED UP????? WHEN????



If this is "ramped up" Trump needs to be in a bulletproof bubble from now on...
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Charpie said:

We need to flag the speculation posts.

There are too many of them to keep up to flag ...

So much for a fact-based thread.
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It's a full time job
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The problem with going down the rabbit hole with any theory is that you'll eventually loop back on yourself. Meet yourself coming and going.

And that meeting place is that there was no failure by any party. Everything we've seen to date has gone exactly as planned.
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tk for tu juan said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Ag with kids said:



Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?


He was on the side closest to the parking lot, you can see the blood on the roof.

How do you take THIS picture if he is on the parking lot side of the roof and facing where Trump was standing?



Are all of them giants? So that they can be seen from the ground ALL the way across the top of the building?
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Reminder that the conspiracy thread is here:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3476134
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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make it make sense.

also, could you imagine if online forums were a thing during jfk?
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Ag with kids said:

tk for tu juan said:

Monkeypoxfighter said:

Ag with kids said:



Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
I'm trying to find a better map of how the shooter would have approached that building to climb it. One post said he carried a ladder a mile, through checkpoints and metal detectors. How were those set up in relation to the shooter's entry and getting on the building?


He was on the side closest to the parking lot, you can see the blood on the roof.

How do you take THIS picture if he is on the parking lot side of the roof and facing where Trump was standing?



Are all of them giants? So that they can be seen from the ground ALL the way across the top of the building?

Background compression from the long focal length when the photo was taken.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet. WOW.

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