Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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Yukon Cornelius said:

stetson said:

Yukon Cornelius said:




But this is progress! DEI has already killed people and its continuation will lead to more. Does anyone have the link that video of those female USSS agents looking lost and confused? I can't remember what page it was posted on.




They look like they are playing dress up in their backyard
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92Ag95 said:

87IE said:

That ladder isn't permanently attached to the bldg.

This is what I don't understand....in the pics of the shooter he appears to be pretty far down the back slope of the roof....and that roof has a giant ridge cap. How did he have a line of sight? What am I missing?
The ground at the rally is slightly higher, I think Trump is several feet up on a platform (almost 6') and the roof pitch on that building is almost flat probably a 2:12.
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The Biden admin created the proper motivation for someone to plan and prepare to out Trump. "He's Hitler and will kill democracy"
The Biden admin provided the opening with inadequate security to create the opportunity for it to happen.

When can a random act better be described as preparation meeting opportunity?
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Deep thoughts.
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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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ChubbyHubby said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

stetson said:

Yukon Cornelius said:




But this is progress! DEI has already killed people and its continuation will lead to more. Does anyone have the link that video of those female USSS agents looking lost and confused? I can't remember what page it was posted on.




They look like they are playing dress up in their backyard
Three Blind Mice!
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benchmark said:

On the question of capturing the actual bullet on camera. Yes, very possible. Assuming a 1/1000 sec camera shutter speed (common for action photos) and a bullet traveling at 2,500 fps (55 gr bullet with 16" AR barrel at 125 yds) .. the captured image of the bullet trail would be 2.5 feet long. About what we saw.
I think most of what is seen in that photo is biological material and not necessarily all bullet contrail.
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20-year old shooter laying prone on a hot tin-roof.

WEARING SHORTS
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sleepybeagle said:

The Biden admin created the proper motivation for someone to plan and prepare to out Trump. "He's Hitler and will kill democracy"
The Biden admin provided the opening with inadequate security to create the opportunity for it to happen.

When can a random act better be described as preparation meeting opportunity?
EXACTLY!

May have been close at multiple other times as well.
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Pretty good analysis, I think. At least with my limited knowledge.
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Foreverconservative said:


They're almost all unstable, irrational mal-contents coddled during their upbringing and ill-equipped to deal with real life.

[edit] The difficulties they deal with in life are everyone else's fault and not at all related to their poor life choices. [edit]
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Foreverconservative said:


Is this the congressman that had the staffer post that bull**** on twitter? The staffer that is now "supposedly" fired?
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Foreverconservative said:

Remember this POS




Comparing Donald Trump to Kim Jung Un & Suddam Hussein is disgusting. How does anybody take these guys seriously?
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Foreverconservative said:




I genuinely can't imagine we here you have to mentally to do **** like this, let alone in public. Idk man I just collect my paycheck and worry about my people; sick in the head to get this riled up
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Of course they're probably also likely to believe yesterday was staged.
Both of my older teens have asked me if I thought it was staged because all of their friends and social media are going with that explanation. Neither one of mine believe it as best as I can tell, but make no mistake that there are a crap ton of people who do.
The young and feebleminded have reached the limit of what their brain can process.

We are seeing people default into an explanation that they can accept.

In 2020 everybody knew that bat-soup was bs.

But people wanted to believe and you couldn't reason with 'em.

They were so desperate to believe that gaslit other you into thinking you were the problem.

Mass formation psychosis is the new normal.
Yup. Social media has allowed it. It's as simple as "you believe what you see." If all you see is social media feed being pumped into your brain from hours of screen content, then you will believe it. Especially over time.

Experience, walking outside, engaging with people, all changes your perspective for the best.
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BlackLab said:


Totally different definition of painting nudes...
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rolo said:

CNN keeps bringing up pelosi husband
Don't solicit male prostitutes
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Funny the dims now want to "cool down the rhetoric"… hope their tweets and past talk about violence ends their political careers
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Eliminatus said:

What I get out of this is that the agent is running a stock Glock 19 with TLR7 and no optics. Honestly a lil surprised by that for some reason. Would have expected something a little more I guess. A duty gun is one thing, sure, but I guess I figured a lil extra would have been done and the data is clear at this point. The majority of people with adequate training on red dots are more effective at quick target acquisition and accuracy as compared to same level of training on iron sights in same situations.

Nerdy niche topic that doesn't matter I know but it caught my eye regardless.


My first thought seeing that photo: "Is that an Uzi?!?" Did we issue those back then?
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What's Trump doing? Playing golf of course. This guy is just built different

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Foreverconservative said:




Is that the kid?
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Ag with kids said:

torrid said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

No way he turned fired and made that shot. Not possible under that pressure. That first shot was spot on.
With an Italian bolt-action rifle no less.
Did I miss something???


He's comparing it to Dallas.
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txags92 said:

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long ass way away. In fairly windy conditions.

150 yards tops is not a long ass way away. The wind was also not that significant of a factor unless this was a massive subsonic round tumbling at around 1000fps


https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-rally-gunman-distance-stage-aerials/61589304

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The Secret Service noted Crooks fired around eight shots at a distance between 200 to 300 yards away from Trump with an AR-style weapon.

The secret service is wrong. Google earth exists and people have put up maps showing the distances already.


lol. Yep. Bad reporting.

Still, 500' is a long shot if he just spin and shot. If the cop was breathing down on him like reported, he wouldn't had the time to get fully set and braced.

Again, if the report I commented on is true, then this guy was an expert marksman.
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everyone pass this to everyone you know

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92Ag95 said:

benchmark said:

On the question of capturing the actual bullet on camera. Yes, very possible. Assuming a 1/1000 sec camera shutter speed (common for action photos) and a bullet traveling at 2,500 fps (55 gr bullet with 16" AR barrel at 125 yds) .. the captured image of the bullet trail would be 2.5 feet long. About what we saw.
I think most of what is seen in that photo is biological material and not necessarily all bullet contrail.

Biological material doesn't follow a linear path when hit by a high velocity projectile, if that was biological it would spray and form a fan pattern. That is all projectile.
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hph6203 said:




I dunno if surviving gunfire would, but DEI nuts asking whether it would definitely will.


That article is racist on so many levels
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Foreverconservative said:

What's Trump doing? Playing golf of course. This guy is just built different




Was this earlier this morning? He's getting on a plane to Milwaukee in 30 minutes
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It looks like it...
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Jock 07 said:

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Leaving the only roof that close to the stage up to barney fife locals is a massive failure
Yes. I think we may have had a bit of a Uvalde moment here. The locals only reaction was to radio it in, and not to take any real action, or so it seems.

But this is ultimately secret service's responsibility. I'm sure they use local jurisdictions but there must be a high level of coordination and I'd assume that the SS would be responsible for signing off on the CONOP. Regardless, the fact that the building wasn't secured and access to the roof cutoff is criminal. This is basic force protection that's been well understood since JFK.


I posted this last night but haven't been following along closely. Has the SS explained why they left a building within line of sight of the president's podium unsecured? This is just insane.
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ChubbyHubby said:

Foreverconservative said:

What's Trump doing? Playing golf of course. This guy is just built different




Was this earlier this morning? He's getting on a plane to Milwaukee in 30 minutes


god help us he needs private security with the way things are going
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Science Denier said:

txags92 said:

Science Denier said:

ttha_aggie_09 said:

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long ass way away. In fairly windy conditions.

150 yards tops is not a long ass way away. The wind was also not that significant of a factor unless this was a massive subsonic round tumbling at around 1000fps


https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-rally-gunman-distance-stage-aerials/61589304

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The Secret Service noted Crooks fired around eight shots at a distance between 200 to 300 yards away from Trump with an AR-style weapon.

The secret service is wrong. Google earth exists and people have put up maps showing the distances already.


lol. Yep. Bad reporting.

Still, 500' is a long shot if he just spin and shot. If the cop was breathing down on him like reported, he wouldn't had the time to get fully set and braced.

Again, if the report I commented on is true, then this guy was an expert marksman.


I wish they'd release the info on which ammo and gun/optic.

The guy hit his target from 130 yards with an AR from a hot metal roof. He was an inch away from a kill shot, maybe less.

IF a cop actually interrupted the shooter, that probably saved Trump's life.
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92Ag95 said:

benchmark said:

On the question of capturing the actual bullet on camera. Yes, very possible. Assuming a 1/1000 sec camera shutter speed (common for action photos) and a bullet traveling at 2,500 fps (55 gr bullet with 16" AR barrel at 125 yds) .. the captured image of the bullet trail would be 2.5 feet long. About what we saw.
I think most of what is seen in that photo is biological material and not necessarily all bullet contrail.
Good read. Article says 1/8,000th shutter speed (wow) so a trail about 4 inches long.

NYT: Photo Appears to Capture Path of Bullet Used in Assassination Attempt
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