Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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Eliminatus said:

What I get out of this is that the agent is running a stock Glock 19 with TLR7 and no optics. Honestly a lil surprised by that for some reason. Would have expected something a little more I guess. A duty gun is one thing, sure, but I guess I figured a lil extra would have been done and the data is clear at this point. The majority of people with adequate training on red dots are more effective at quick target acquisition and accuracy as compared to same level of training on iron sights in same situations.

Nerdy niche topic that doesn't matter I know but it caught my eye regardless.


She tried and failed to holster the weapon as well. Hard to watch the incompetence.
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Of course they're probably also likely to believe yesterday was staged.
Both of my older teens have asked me if I thought it was staged because all of their friends and social media are going with that explanation. Neither one of mine believe it as best as I can tell, but make no mistake that there are a crap ton of people who do.
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No Spin Ag said:

aginlakeway said:

He's already won one.
I'm not surprised, he knew what he needed to do to get a shot like that.

That he was able to get into position would indicate that he had reconnoitered before to figure out where to go.

If you look at Google Street view on the east side of the buildings at

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8584636,-79.9704666,146m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

you can see that there were, on the day of the street view visit, a couple of commercial trucks parked there with extension ladders on the roofs. If they were there yesterday then he didn't need to bring his own ladder.
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Ag87H2O said:

annie88 said:

Disgusting.


I pray that this clip follows and haunts her the rest of her miserable life.
What's the "other half" of the problem?

I suspect one that will resolve itself sooner rather than later.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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ChemAg15 said:

The narrative was written before Trump took the stage. The media was in on the hit.

I'm confident those at the very top absolutely were…
that's why they're scrambling. They need a new narrative. They were told it would be "Trump assassinated."
Which is what should concern all of us.

How big of a shoe gotta drop now to distract from all this?

Gut feeling is we about to see some major incident next week.

More likely than not.

Something will happen and it'll get blamed on Russia retaliating for attacks by proxy on their mainland.

Cyberattack, internet outage, EMP who tf knows what we about to see to distract from this.
I've been saying for months that before the election there would be a major grid/EMP event knocking out a portion of the USA grid. Maybe for weeks even…
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You know what would make this story even more insane? If the shooter ends up being an AT&T customer and, thanks to the events of last week, every single person he's been in contact with over the last few weeks is already out there on the internet waiting to be discovered.
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[Biden] telling people to let FBI do job before jumping to conclusions
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Foreverconservative said:




I hope these despicable humans are held accountable whenever Trump wins. Comments like that are far deeper than politics. Elected representatives shouldn't be allowed to insinuate violence on their adversaries.

Edit: spelling
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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[Biden] telling people to let FBI do job before jumping to conclusions



The same FBI that raided his wife's panty drawer? I'm sure they'll do a thorough job investigating what happened...
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They can't do anything right.

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Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to **** things up

- BHO

Thank goodness...
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stetson said:

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But this is progress! DEI has already killed people and its continuation will lead to more. Does anyone have the link that video of those female USSS agents looking lost and confused? I can't remember what page it was posted on.


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Of course they're probably also likely to believe yesterday was staged.
Both of my older teens have asked me if I thought it was staged because all of their friends and social media are going with that explanation. Neither one of mine believe it as best as I can tell, but make no mistake that there are a crap ton of people who do.
The young and feebleminded have reached the limit of what their brain can process.

We are seeing people default into an explanation that they can accept.

In 2020 everybody knew that bat-soup was bs.

But people wanted to believe and you couldn't reason with 'em.

They were so desperate to believe that gaslit other you into thinking you were the problem.

Mass formation psychosis is the new normal.
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Ag In Ok said:

Just a snapshot but that is the expression of panic under stress. If her mouth was like that most of the event she isn't fit for the job.
Agent caught a case of pepaw mouth.
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Full tweet

Hopefully after the tragedy yesterday in Butler PA we can all recognize that unaccountable bloated bureaucracies continue to fail us as Americans.

Donald J Trump is alive today solely due to a bad wind estimate by an evil would be assasin.
As the graphics show the full value wind of just 5mph was enough to displace the unconfirmed but likely light 55 grain bullet two inches from DJT's intended forehead to his ear.
DJT was not saved by USSS brilliance. The fact that USSS allowed a rifle armed shooter within 150yds to a preplanned event is either malice or massive incompetence. Clearly there was adequate uncontrolled dead space for a shooter to move into position and take multiple aimed shots. Watching the newsreel one can hear how proximate the shooter is by the very short time lapse between the crack of arriving bullet (supersonic) to the boom of muzzle blast (sonic).

The law enforcement sniper (unclear if USSS) in newsreels was clearly overwhelmed as his face came off his rifle instead of doing his job to kill the shooter. Clearly they were watching the shooter but apparently have a no "first shot" policy. The only positive action was an apparent 488yd shot by one USSS sniper which despatched the assasin but after the assassin launched at least 5 rounds, wounding DJT and killing and severely others in the crowd.

In my old business of providing Diplomatic Security in two active war zones we were expected to execute the basics or we would be fired. Clearly USSS failed at the basics of a secure perimeter and once shots were fired their extraction was clumsy and left DJT highly exposed to follow on attacks. It looked like they had never drilled together because those responses should be effectively autonomic. Will there be accountability? That's not the Washington way.

Unserious and unworthy people in positions of authority got us to this near disaster. Merit and execution must be the only deciding factors in hiring and leadership, not the social engineering priority of the day. Sadly nothing in Washington reflects that any longer. DJT is right to question the competence of those protecting him because yesterday they failed in almost every way. Nature abhors a vacuum and there are always other options.
Most importantly, as Americans let's come together and run a proper valid election so we can get back to what matters a merit based society that judges on character and skill. Nothing else.

(Images from a SEAL sniper instructor at Red Sky LLC)





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I think it more likely the shooter accessed the roof from the parking lot on the top of the photo.

There were crowds of people who would have seen him walking around if he had come up the way the photo indicates.
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This POS just couldn't wait to post this

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eric76 said:

No Spin Ag said:

aginlakeway said:

He's already won one.
I'm not surprised, he knew what he needed to do to get a shot like that.

That he was able to get into position would indicate that he had reconnoitered before to figure out where to go.

If you look at Google Street view on the east side of the buildings at

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8584636,-79.9704666,146m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

you can see that there were, on the day of the street view visit, a couple of commercial trucks parked there with extension ladders on the roofs. If they were there yesterday then he didn't need to bring his own ladder.

Thanks for the info/link
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torrid said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

No way he turned fired and made that shot. Not possible under that pressure. That first shot was spot on.
With an Italian bolt-action rifle no less.
Did I miss something???
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Ag with kids said:

torrid said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

No way he turned fired and made that shot. Not possible under that pressure. That first shot was spot on.
With an Italian bolt-action rifle no less.
Did I miss something???
It's a reference to Lee Harvey Oswald's Carcano rifle.
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Aggie95 said:

False flag...Trump orchestrated this for support [/effing liberals]
I can see Trump in the room during the planning...

"OK, ok...so, you're a pretty good shot? OK, I'll turn my head, people love it when I turn my head....it'll be the greatest head turn of all time, the greatest. Time your shot perfectly, OK, ok? You'll need to hit my right ear, 'cause it's my bad ear, really bad, totally useless....try to hit just the top of my right ear ok?"
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That ladder isn't permanently attached to the bldg.


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Ag with kids said:

torrid said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

No way he turned fired and made that shot. Not possible under that pressure. That first shot was spot on.
With an Italian bolt-action rifle no less.
Did I miss something???


Yes, the joke…Lee Harvey Oswald reference. Italian bolt action found on 6th floor.
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We lucky that kids today have low testosterone.

Had this been a Charles Whitman w'ed be up **** creek.
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87IE said:

That ladder isn't permanently attached to the bldg.

This is what I don't understand....in the pics of the shooter he appears to be pretty far down the back slope of the roof....and that roof has a giant ridge cap. How did he have a line of sight? What am I missing?
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On the question of capturing the actual bullet on camera. Yes, very possible. Assuming a 1/1000 sec camera shutter speed (common for action photos) and a bullet traveling at 2,500 fps (55 gr bullet with 16" AR barrel at 125 yds) .. the captured image of the bullet trail would be 2.5 feet long. About what we saw.

ETA. NYT article says 1/8,000th shutter speed (wow) so a bullet trail 4+ inches long. Link: NYT: Photo Appears to Capture Path of Bullet Used in Assassination Attempt
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