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10:16p, 7/14/24
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I like this. Even from Dilbert

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In reply to Artorias • 10:17p, 7/14/24
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Artorias said:
aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.


Parents were both mental health professionals.
They sound pretty bad at their job.


Unsure how we know that. I've dealt with a lot of mental health challenges. It's tough to blame the parents regardless of their profession.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to Artorias • 10:18p, 7/14/24
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Artorias said:
aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.


Parents were both mental health professionals.
They sound pretty bad at their job.


Or good at them. MKULTRA was a legitimate R&D program ran by the cia for a decade before it was closed and they started their operational program. It's a matter of senate hearing records.
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10:18p, 7/14/24
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Well, if my kid ends up murdering innocent people in trying to kill a politician, I'm going to consider myself a massive failure at the most important job I will ever have. I'm pretty sure you can't fail harder than that.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:18p, 7/14/24
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aginlakeway said:
Artorias said:
aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.


Parents were both mental health professionals.
They sound pretty bad at their job.


Unsure how we know that. I've dealt with a lot of mental health challenges. It's tough to blame the parents regardless of their profession.
Considering their own son was mentally ****ed enough to try to assassinate a Presidential candidate, they are either bad at their job or at being parents, or both.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:20p, 7/14/24
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aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.


Parents were both mental health professionals.
I heard that but do we know what type? I mean they are claiming the shooter was a dietician aid when in reality he was a kitchen staff employee.
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In reply to Kentucky Jeff • 10:20p, 7/14/24
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Kentucky Jeff said:
That's the face you make when you don't know how to do your job, but suddenly you're forced to work.


Was your buddy shot in 2012? If not, I have a friend with a similar story.
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10:21p, 7/14/24
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Mashing peas in an old folks home + a resume writing specialist = dietician aid
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In reply to AnScAggie • 10:22p, 7/14/24
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AnScAggie said:
aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.


Parents were both mental health professionals.
I heard that but do we know what type? I mean they are claiming the shooter was a dietician aid when in reality he was a kitchen staff employee.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/presidential-election/2024/07/14/6693d31a268e3e414c8b458f.html
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:24p, 7/14/24
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Going outside my own idea of sticking to the obvious failure here

But i have no problem judging the tree by its fruit.

Good parents don't often raise bad kids.

Parents often raise kids with a different point of view. In fact I think it almost the norm for kids to the opposite of their parents for at least a while.

But good parents of assassins or serial killers seems very unlikely. I will awake the examples of how I am wrong
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10:24p, 7/14/24


SIAP.
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10:26p, 7/14/24
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I am unschooled in the ways of snipers, but were they all 4 only pointing in one direction or so they scan around and move based on spotting reports on comms?

So they all happened to be pointing in the same direction at the exact moment the kid shot?
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In reply to Boozer92 • 10:28p, 7/14/24
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Good parents don't often raise bad kids.


Maybe not often, but it's not rare. Same with great kids and awful parents.

Those parents are grieving. It's poor form to make these comments.
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In reply to Boozer92 • 10:28p, 7/14/24
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Boozer92 said:
Going outside my own idea of sticking to the obvious failure here

But i have no problem judging the tree by its fruit.

Good parents don't often raise bad kids.

Parents often raise kids with a different point of view. In fact I think it almost the norm for kids to the opposite of their parents for at least a while.

But good parents of assassins or serial killers seems very unlikely. I will awake the examples of how I am wrong


Agree. Well stated. I just blame the shooter more than the parents.

I also don't know of one assassin who wasn't mental ill. It's part of the DNA.
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In reply to MarkTwain • 10:29p, 7/14/24
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Foreverconservative said:
This is what I was talking about earlier. Look at this foddering old man who is supposedly running the country. Look how he turns and walks away earlier today after speaking two minutes and saying basically nothing and taking no questions



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In reply to drcrinum • 10:30p, 7/14/24
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drcrinum said:


SIAP.
Nailed it.
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In reply to drcrinum • 10:30p, 7/14/24
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drcrinum said:


SIAP.


Between this guy and the boys from the hood, Trump should be well protected from now on.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:30p, 7/14/24
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Thanks
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In reply to BuddysBud • 10:31p, 7/14/24
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it's absolutely extremely difficult to deal with the obvious fact that they aren't just "bad at it", and it was not just them allowing it to happen.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:33p, 7/14/24
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aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
aginlakeway said:
AnScAggie said:
Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.


Parents were both mental health professionals.
I heard that but do we know what type? I mean they are claiming the shooter was a dietician aid when in reality he was a kitchen staff employee.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/presidential-election/2024/07/14/6693d31a268e3e414c8b458f.html

Psychologist and a former educator for parents…two unhinged professions.
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10:36p, 7/14/24
I can neither confirm or deny the authenticity of this photo.

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
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In reply to txag72 • 10:37p, 7/14/24
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txag72 said:
Does the fact that there were apparently trees that protected the shooter from being seen add a little suspicion to the placement of the sniper positions?

This was either a MAJOR f*** up or set up by the USSS; 1) having that CS blind spot in coverage created by the trees, and 2) not having someone in place on the two-story structure at AGR to cover the back slope of the roof.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 10:40p, 7/14/24
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I was referring to an earlier post where a guy from Seattle suggested that Trump needs to bring in guys from the hood for protection. Add this sniper, who offers his services for free, and Trump has a bad-ass but untrained security detail.
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In reply to drcrinum • 10:41p, 7/14/24
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drcrinum said:


SIAP.


I have a friend who I went to high school with that was literally on the advance team during the Obama presidency. Traveled weeks in advance to places and helped develop security measures over seas for Presidential visits.

He won't come out and say this is some kind of conspiracy but to say he is befuddled on how this could have happened is an understatement. He has serious questions based on his vast knowledge of what SHOILD have happened, versus what actually happened here.
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 10:41p, 7/14/24
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His dad is a psychologist that has published books. Mom is less clear - have seen stay home mom that was a teacher, or a behaviorsl therapist. Could be she has been all of that

A psychologist and a teacher. In Pennsylvania. And I would bet the farm that they are Democrats. Do they strike anyone as the type to purchase an AR?
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In reply to stetson • 10:42p, 7/14/24
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They are registered democrats.
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In reply to hedge • 10:42p, 7/14/24
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Its still on the internet and easy to find.
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In reply to Cepe • 10:42p, 7/14/24
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rolo said:


Whomever set the perimeter F'ed up intentionally or not.

That's the fail point.


All I've seen are the mock ups, so maybe I"m not seeing the full picture. But if what I have seen is accurate, why in the hell would your perimeter not include literally the nearest building?
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In reply to drcrinum • 10:48p, 7/14/24
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drcrinum said:


SIAP.
Strong agreement with what many posters have been saying and coming from a professional at that. Distressing that the best "I don't want to have to accept reality" excuse is gross negligence, but the reality is that the evidence points to an inside job.

Believe what you will, but this was an attempted hit...
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:49p, 7/14/24
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Agree that almost every Presidential or Presidential candidate assassin has been mentally ill. There is another very good thread listing them all. Hard to believe 2 mental health professionals if that is correct missed the signs.

This is not like most of assassination attempts in the past. Everyone seemed to recognize the mental illness of the perpetrators. How did these 2 miss it

Edit to add link to referenced thread

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3475729
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In reply to agent-maroon • 10:50p, 7/14/24
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agent-maroon said:
drcrinum said:


SIAP.
Strong agreement with what many posters have been saying and coming from a professional at that. Distressing that the best "I don't want to have to accept reality" excuse is gross negligence, but the reality is that the evidence points to an inside job.

Believe what you will, but this was an attempted hit...
from what's been out there plus insight from those in the know, this is, at BEST, gross incompetence....next level is intentional. and it is difficult to comprehend that this agency is that grossly incompetent
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10:53p, 7/14/24
As more of this is playing out...I am not going to say it is a grand conspiracy, but it sure does look like there could be some bad faith actors on the inside.

  • Practically perfect vantage point
  • Vantage point building left unsecure
  • The fact that he just so happened to shoot from outside the SS designated perimeter of security
  • No engagement from LEOs or SS
  • Possible diversion of SS resources for this event
  • Side shot where there is no protective barrier
  • "Patriotic" clothing to blend in...(probably thought he was going to walk right out of there)
  • Trained for the shot (crawled in prone position)
  • Bullied kid
  • Parents are mental health professionals
  • Medicated (willing to bet)

The list is growing
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In reply to fredfredunderscorefred • 10:53p, 7/14/24
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from what's been out there plus insight from those in the know, this is, at BEST, gross incompetence....next level is intentional. and it is difficult to comprehend that this agency is that grossly incompetent

Agree. That's what I was trying to say if it wasn't clear.
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stetson said:
DannyDuberstein said:
His dad is a psychologist that has published books. Mom is less clear - have seen stay home mom that was a teacher, or a behaviorsl therapist. Could be she has been all of that

A psychologist and a teacher. In Pennsylvania. And I would bet the farm that they are Democrats. Do they strike anyone as the type to purchase an AR?
I sold guns for 16 years. Democrats buy ARs.
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The Banned said:
Cepe said:
rolo said:


Whomever set the perimeter F'ed up intentionally or not.

That's the fail point.


All I've seen are the mock ups, so maybe I"m not seeing the full picture. But if what I have seen is accurate, why in the hell would your perimeter not include literally the nearest building?

Exactly. This "perimeter" talk is bs. The perimeter would include everything that constitutes a threat.
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