Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
Ellis Wyatt said:
Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
rocky the dog said:
jamey said:Ellis Wyatt said:
Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
I was looking for legitimate discussion and got one legitimate answer from the person who blames the uniparty. That's logical but others blaming the Ds, while the Rs can't do anything about it but whine, not so much.
Another person saying the Ds look to win while Rs look to do their jobs may have a point but would need a better explanation
Stressboy said:jamey said:Ellis Wyatt said:
Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
I was looking for legitimate discussion and got one legitimate answer from the person who blames the uniparty. That's logical but others blaming the Ds, while the Rs can't do anything about it but whine, not so much.
Another person saying the Ds look to win while Rs look to do their jobs may have a point but would need a better explanation
And yet you ignored my answer to keep up your game. What you call conspiracy theories are nothing but propaganda and you are either someone who believes the propaganda or you are a purveyor of it.
A significant portion of the conspiracy theories, or future facts if we're going by the trend in how a lot have been proven right over time, are the result of the first three estates being too large.jamey said:Stressboy said:jamey said:Ellis Wyatt said:
Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
I was looking for legitimate discussion and got one legitimate answer from the person who blames the uniparty. That's logical but others blaming the Ds, while the Rs can't do anything about it but whine, not so much.
Another person saying the Ds look to win while Rs look to do their jobs may have a point but would need a better explanation
And yet you ignored my answer to keep up your game. What you call conspiracy theories are nothing but propaganda and you are either someone who believes the propaganda or you are a purveyor of it.
You are picking and choosing your media. I already said above both CNN and FoxNews are guilty of propaganda. FoxNews is bigger than CNN, MSNBC and a bunch of others combined so they count just like CNN and MSNBC. They all cover "news" to match how they lean. It's mostly infotainment. I don't even have live TV unless it's football season nowadays.
We desperately need a real news industry in this country, a 4th estate
jamey said:Stressboy said:jamey said:Ellis Wyatt said:
Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
I was looking for legitimate discussion and got one legitimate answer from the person who blames the uniparty. That's logical but others blaming the Ds, while the Rs can't do anything about it but whine, not so much.
Another person saying the Ds look to win while Rs look to do their jobs may have a point but would need a better explanation
And yet you ignored my answer to keep up your game. What you call conspiracy theories are nothing but propaganda and you are either someone who believes the propaganda or you are a purveyor of it.
You are picking and choosing your media. I already said above both CNN and FoxNews are guilty of propaganda. FoxNews is bigger than CNN, MSNBC and a bunch of others combined so they count just like CNN and MSNBC. They all cover "news" to match how they lean. It's mostly infotainment. I don't even have live TV unless it's football season nowadays.
We desperately need a real news industry in this country, a 4th estate
Tea Party said:A significant portion of the conspiracy theories, or future facts if we're going by the trend in how a lot have been proven right over time, are the result of the first three estates being too large.jamey said:Stressboy said:jamey said:Ellis Wyatt said:
Hopefully he took my advice. He was pretty clearly not seeking legitimate discussion.
I was looking for legitimate discussion and got one legitimate answer from the person who blames the uniparty. That's logical but others blaming the Ds, while the Rs can't do anything about it but whine, not so much.
Another person saying the Ds look to win while Rs look to do their jobs may have a point but would need a better explanation
And yet you ignored my answer to keep up your game. What you call conspiracy theories are nothing but propaganda and you are either someone who believes the propaganda or you are a purveyor of it.
You are picking and choosing your media. I already said above both CNN and FoxNews are guilty of propaganda. FoxNews is bigger than CNN, MSNBC and a bunch of others combined so they count just like CNN and MSNBC. They all cover "news" to match how they lean. It's mostly infotainment. I don't even have live TV unless it's football season nowadays.
We desperately need a real news industry in this country, a 4th estate
We desperately need the first three estates to be significantly reduced in size and power, then the scope of conspiracy theory talk will automatically be reduced as a result.
Stressboy said:
I'm saying that you are playing with words. An accusation is not a conspiracy theory especially if it can be proven true or false (probabilities count here).
As for the a true news source I was working on a way for each group to rate news articles individually and then compare how red, purple, and blue rated the articles. Expose how each group thought it was false. It was going to be called True Unbiased News and be an aggregator of truth as voted on the different tribes and an exposer of propaganda from both sides of be aisle, but alas Covid killed that startup.
During my extensive research into everything going on, I found there were individual articles all over the media landscape which were not full of crap, but they were occasional. One huff post article out of 50 for example, but if you could get all the decent articles from all the sources in one place, then wouldn't that be something.
I hope that works out, it would be good and also may push them to be more real if it catches on
Back to you OP, I'm saying your entire premise is wrong because you label something one way and half the country doesn't maybe it's your labels and not half the country that is full of it.
I'm asking this forum which is a heavy right lean to explain their own
Are you perhaps confusing "conspiracy" with "secret conspiracy"? I agree that for a conspiracy to remain a secret, the numbers of people involved need to be low. But if you don't need the conspiracy to be a secret, then why should there be any limit on the number of participants?jamey said:
Anyone notice how many political conspiracy theories have an impossibly large number of participants?
I'm curious if others have noticed. I'm not interested in digging into them all, but in general it seems like a trend to me. It's always the left is doing something and dispite being ~ half the population the right can't stop them.
It's not that they can't, the political right has no desire to stop them because they're all on the same gravy train. As long as the dog and pony show of supposed pushback continues, the infighting and finger pointing at either the right or the left from the voters will continue. Our two party political system is nothing more than two sides of the same coin, they have common goals and work in concert but make it look like they oppose one another. It's all bull****, the entire system is better off to be dismantled, specifically the bureaucracy.jamey said:
Anyone notice how many political conspiracy theories have an impossibly large number of participants?
I'm curious if others have noticed. I'm not interested in digging into them all, but in general it seems like a trend to me. It's always the left is doing something and dispite being ~ half the population the right can't stop them.
PacoPicoPiedra said:It's not that they can't, the political right has no desire to stop them because they're all on the same gravy train. As long as the dog and pony show of supposed pushback continues, the infighting and finger pointing at either the right or the left from the voters will continue. Our two party political system is nothing more than two sides of the same coin, they have common goals and work in concert but make it look like they oppose one another. It's all bull****, the entire system is better off to be dismantled, specifically the bureaucracy.jamey said:
Anyone notice how many political conspiracy theories have an impossibly large number of participants?
I'm curious if others have noticed. I'm not interested in digging into them all, but in general it seems like a trend to me. It's always the left is doing something and dispite being ~ half the population the right can't stop them.
And yet 85+% of "journalists" in this country are leftists. They barely hide it anymore.jamey said:
You are picking and choosing your media. I already said above both CNN and FoxNews are guilty of propaganda. FoxNews is bigger than CNN, MSNBC and a bunch of others combined so they count just like CNN and MSNBC.
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Please take note that no one at the Post is angry about their employer's role in any of this…
- Russia Collusion Hoax
- Hands Up, Don't Shoot Hoax
- Jussie Smollett Hoax
- Covington KKKids Hoax
- Very Fine People Hoax
- Seven-Hour Gap Hoax
- Russian Bounties Hoax
- Trump Trashes Troops Hoax
- Policemen Killed at Mostly Peaceful January 6 Protest Hoax
- Rittenhouse Hoax
- Eating While Black Hoax
- Border Agents Whipping Illegals Hoax
- NASCAR Noose Hoax
- The Georgia Jim Crow 2.0 Hoax
- Trump Assaulted Secret Service Agents and Grabbed Steering Wheel of Beast Hoax
- MAGA Assaulted Paul Pelosi Hoax
- COVID Lab Leak Theory Is Racist Hoax
- Hunter Biden's Laptop Is Russian Disinformation Hoax
- Joe Biden Will Never Ban Gas Stoves Hoax
- COVID Deaths are Over-Counted Is a Conspiracy Theory Hoax
- Mass Graves of Native Children in Canada Hoax
- Trump Killed All the Fish Hoax
- Trump Told People to Drink Bleach Hoax
- Hamas Hospital Hoax
- If Reelected, Trump Will Execute People Hoax
- The 900,000 Kids Hospitalized with Coronavirus Hoax
- Dozens of Environmental Hoaxes
- The Alfa Bank Hoax
- Libs of TikTok Murdered Non-Binary Teen Hoax
- The Aaron Rodgers Sandy Hook-Truther Hoax
- The 'Bloodbath' Hoax
Ellis Wyatt said:And yet 85+% of "journalists" in this country are leftists. They barely hide it anymore.jamey said:
You are picking and choosing your media. I already said above both CNN and FoxNews are guilty of propaganda. FoxNews is bigger than CNN, MSNBC and a bunch of others combined so they count just like CNN and MSNBC.
aggiehawg said:
Yuu have the list that I posted above.
Please dispute each on of them, including links.
TIA.
So you won't waste time on what WaPo published? All of those are WaPo links.jamey said:aggiehawg said:
Yuu have the list that I posted above.
Please dispute each on of them, including links.
TIA.
I'm not wasting time on breitbart any more than I'm wasting time on MSNBC. And I said in the OP, I'm not here looking to debate a bunch of these things but rather looking for an explanation for the big picture as posted. And I've received several good responses.
jamey said:aggiehawg said:
Yuu have the list that I posted above.
Please dispute each on of them, including links.
TIA.
I'm not wasting time on breitbart any more than I'm wasting time on MSNBC. And I said in the OP, I'm not here looking to debate a bunch of these things but rather looking for an explanation for the big picture as posted. And I've received several good responses.
YouBet said:jamey said:aggiehawg said:
Yuu have the list that I posted above.
Please dispute each on of them, including links.
TIA.
I'm not wasting time on breitbart any more than I'm wasting time on MSNBC. And I said in the OP, I'm not here looking to debate a bunch of these things but rather looking for an explanation for the big picture as posted. And I've received several good responses.
More than once you asked for examples and then when given those examples you crawfish out of it or shoot the messenger. You are dismissing facts (there is nothing to debate with most of these - they happened) that provide context to the question you asked as if they are not relevant when they are the very reason why we can no longer dismiss "conspiracy theories" out of hand.
Ellis Wyatt said:
Yeah, too sharp for this board. Leave us intellectual lightweights to our own devices.
Well, honey...I am the Ol' Broad here so respond to my post.Quote:
I never once asked for examples. I was asked to give examples and gave 1 with the stolen election. In fact I made it clear in the OP I'm not here to debate the details of a bunch of different topics and that this was a broad question.