Just the tips?

Trump already knows there is no tax on tips

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— KidRock (@KidRock) June 15, 2024

itsyourboypookie said:

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Trump already knows there is no tax on tips

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There's not? Can you post the link?

Kid Rock drinks Bud Light, so....

It's absolutely pandering, just as Brandon has done with "forgiving" student loans. Why should I work and pay taxes on that work, but a service industry worker should work and get a "free ride"? We already have a big enough problem with nearly half of the country's voters paying no federal taxes and thus effectively having no skin in the game.

How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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Power not granted the federal government, regardless of the stupidty of the idea.


Govt is the reason things are so expensive and untenable as it is. Get them out of the way, not more in it.

Not in favor of anything that singles out one group over another. That is how we got a tax code big enough to choke an elephant.

MookieBlaylock said:

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Just the tips?

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What you did there.

Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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How bout no! The market, and the market alone should decide what someone is worth earning.

Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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This is why shift jobs to other countries.

Instead how about government stop inflating away workers purchasing power with continued overspending

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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How are they being exploited if they chose to work there?

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In the mind of lots of people workers have no agency and only the educated elite know what a decent living wage should be.

This would obviously incentivize businesses to shift more employee compensation to tips, which means the price of goods and services would become more opaque. Setting aside whether it's good or bad tax policy, it sounds miserable for consumers.

There's a thousand ways why this is dumb. But it's still not as dumb as eliminating income taxes and turning it into a tariffs - like Trump did.

Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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Not that we didn't already know this but you have no understanding of economics. Which is actually quite amazing since we are witnessing the fallout of "living wage" practices in real-time.

You sound like an advocate for the Two Teas Economics Theory. Maybe that was you?

Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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Why don't you and your fellow liberals open businesses that pay people a "decent living wage". You should get the absolute best employees available. That means you should dominate your industry and put your competition out of business.

YouBet said:

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You sound like an advocate for the Two Teas Economics Theory. Maybe that was you?

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Looks like I'm not the only person drew this conclusion. There is an unnamed person on this thread who has zero understanding of basic economic tenets and therefore regurgitates moronic regressive diatribes.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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How are they being exploited if they chose to work there?

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Well person is pretty desperate if they can't find work, so they'll take anything they can get. They get sucked into a minimum wage job that barely allows them to live. They work 9-10 hours every day just survive, and some employers take advantage of thier situation. Want them to come in 15-30 minutes early to "prep" for their shift before they start getting paid, or "forget" to properly log overtime, or deny raises "because we've all struggled this year" never mind the boss's brand-new F-250 Lariat because the Raptor just could haul the new boat.

Space-Tech said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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How are they being exploited if they chose to work there?

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Well person is pretty desperate if they can't find work, so they'll take anything they can get. They get sucked into a minimum wage job that barely allows them to live. They work 9-10 hours every day just survive, and some employers take advantage of thier situation. Want them to come in 15-30 minutes early to "prep" for their shift before they start getting paid, or "forget" to properly log overtime, or deny raises "because we've all struggled this year" never mind the boss's brand-new F-250 Lariat because the Raptor just could haul the new boat.

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None of that is reality to a scale that needs federal laws. Most of what you listed is already against the law, so how do more laws fix that? You also didn't mention the employee has the freedom to keep looking for work while employed and you also didn't mention skill levels. Low paying jobs are unskilled positions and aren't meant to be destination positions. People have to grow or die and governments or liberal tears can't fix that. Liberals have had control of government many times yet never fixed the problems they complain about. How do you explain that?

itsyourboypookie said:

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Trump already knows there is no tax on tips

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Credit Card Tips are taxed, and so are cash if they are dumb enough to report them.

as a law it sounds gloriously gameable for mom and pop

Jeeper79 said:

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This sounds pretty liberal. A tax cut in name, but a hand out in practice because of extremely targeted nature.

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Yes it's horrible to let people keep more of their money. The libtard why is to take more not less.

If "they" would start worrying about spending more than taxing, we would see much more benefit.

Hagen95 said:

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If "they" would start worrying about spending more than taxing, we would see much more benefit.

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This man is a genius. I would say run for congress but clearly you are severely over qualified.

I can see how singling out one class of people seems "unfair" and a bit of a handout. But he has also indicated that he wants to eliminate taxes in general and replace with tariffs. In the larger context, this is just a "marketing" campaign of that broader plan.

Not like a lot it isn't already not getting reported, so I guess a lot of you guys complaining want those 87k irs agents out in full force in a nanny state.

Space-Tech said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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How are they being exploited if they chose to work there?

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Well person is pretty desperate if they can't find work, so they'll take anything they can get. They get sucked into a minimum wage job that barely allows them to live. They work 9-10 hours every day just survive, and some employers take advantage of thier situation. Want them to come in 15-30 minutes early to "prep" for their shift before they start getting paid, or "forget" to properly log overtime, or deny raises "because we've all struggled this year" never mind the boss's brand-new F-250 Lariat because the Raptor just could haul the new boat.

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How about we just outlaw poverty instead?

Tom Fox said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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This sounds pretty liberal. A tax cut in name, but a hand out in practice because of extremely targeted nature.

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Yeah, like I'm sure you would be all for a flat tax. /Eye roll

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No, but a tax code that's been greatly reduced would be a good start.

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Of course you would oppose a flat tax. We can't have the fundamental fairness of everyone paying the same rate?

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A lot of lawyers would be out of a job... So it will not pass. F16 lawyers excluded.

doubledog said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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This sounds pretty liberal. A tax cut in name, but a hand out in practice because of extremely targeted nature.

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Yeah, like I'm sure you would be all for a flat tax. /Eye roll

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No, but a tax code that's been greatly reduced would be a good start.

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Of course you would oppose a flat tax. We can't have the fundamental fairness of everyone paying the same rate?

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A lot of lawyers would be out of a job... So it will not pass. F16 lawyers excluded.

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Good point.

There is an entire industry built on the complex tax code. That's one of the main reasons it will never be simplified.

Jeeper79 said:

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This sounds pretty liberal. A tax cut in name, but a hand out in practice because of extremely targeted nature.

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You're right. It sounds liberal and sounds like a handout to low info voters who love that sort of thing. But it's not. It's conservative genius.

I agree with your implication that Trump knocked it out of the park.

rocky the dog said:

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My libertarian mom used to leave a business card that stated that when she left cash on the table.

Ragoo said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Ragoo said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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This sounds pretty liberal. A tax cut in name, but a hand out in practice because of extremely targeted nature.

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liberals want to raise taxes on wealthy and middle class so they can gift the money to hourly workers and those who don't pay effective taxes.

This achieves a result favorable to wage workers in hospitality industries, and industry that struggles to find good people, without attacking the middle class and wealthy.

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Any tax break not offset by taxing someone else (bad idea) or spending cuts (good idea) will just add to the budget deficit and we'll tack it onto our already-too-big national debt. Do you think those spending cuts will materialize? If not, then this is functionally just debt spending like our entitlement programs.

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what the hell are you talking about?

He is proposing tips be excluded from income tax. It is negligible in government revenue.

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you are correct that it is negligible . Considering the top 10% income bracket pays , what, 80% of the income tax revenue.
Whether it is a correct stance becomes a separate issue.

Space-Tech said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Space-Tech said:

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How about they federally require businesses to pay workers a decent living wage. If your business model requires the exploitation of employees, then you shouldn't be in business.

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How are they being exploited if they chose to work there?

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Well person is pretty desperate if they can't find work, so they'll take anything they can get. They get sucked into a minimum wage job that barely allows them to live. They work 9-10 hours every day just survive, and some employers take advantage of thier situation. Want them to come in 15-30 minutes early to "prep" for their shift before they start getting paid, or "forget" to properly log overtime, or deny raises "because we've all struggled this year" never mind the boss's brand-new F-250 Lariat because the Raptor just could haul the new boat.

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You must post on r/antiwork with nonsensical rants like that. No wonder you're always so bitter.