TxAgPreacher said:

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"The government agency will award $10 million over the course of five years "

"Eat Just hired leading ag lobbying firm Torrey Advisory Group in 2021, and spent $210,000 last year on lobbyists there who've worked on the Senate Agriculture Committee and at USDA."

"The University of California has received a $3.55 million grant from The National Science Foundation for cell-based, lab-grown meat research. The funding provided by the United States-based independent federal agency is the first U.S. government investment in the cell-based meat sector."

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Social engineering at its finest.

Science Denier said:

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richardag said:

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B-1 83 said:

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richardag said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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It's not bug paste. It's the same cellular organic structure as meat off animals.

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So it has muscle cells, blood cells, fat cells. Immunosuppressants cells, white blood cells, bone marrow cells, nerve cells?
Just asking

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The stem cells used to "culture" the meat are muscle oriented. Would it make much sense to just guess what the end product would be or spend the money for a bunch inedible stuff? "Damn! All we got was a bunch of bone with this batch!"

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/14/5/819#:~:text=Using%20muscle%20stem%20cells%20(MuSCs,improving%20production%20efficiency%20%5B6%5D.

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Using muscle stem cells (MuSCs) for cultured meat production offers numerous benefits. MuSCs enable the precise formation of the desired muscle tissue, enhancing the meat quality with a delicate and consistent texture and taste

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Thanks for the reply. Looking at pictures of lab grown cell foods it appears there are fat cells,

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Doesn't look like crickets and/or flies.

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I never said it was from crickets nor flies.
My concern is safety.

oh no. Now Alabama trying to stop lab grown innovation. spitting in the faces of the experts.

Big government.

If the people that promote lab grown meat and the plethora of other "alternative meats" actually read the ingredients and nutritional facts for the crap, they'd think twice about ingesting it if they had any semblance of food production/processing understanding.

Teslag said:

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Wes97 said:

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This thread is example # 1,025 of why libertarianism is not a serious political philosophy.


Small government does not mean no government. That is anarchy.

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It also doesn't mean deciding who can eat what because of politics. If you don't want it, don't eat it.

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Again, if you really think that's how this plays out, you are insane. Makes sense being that you are "Tesla" Ag and didn't see that one coming.

All lab grown meat will end up doing is increasing prices on natural because of government restrictions placed on it.

It will not simply be the "free market". If you can't see how easily it would trend that way based on previous government products in the name of climate change o rother "issues", I can't help you.

beerad12man said:

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Teslag said:

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Wes97 said:

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This thread is example # 1,025 of why libertarianism is not a serious political philosophy.


Small government does not mean no government. That is anarchy.

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It also doesn't mean deciding who can eat what because of politics. If you don't want it, don't eat it.

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Again, if you really think that's how this plays out, you are insane. Makes sense being that you are "Tesla" Ag and didn't see that one coming.

All lab grown meat will end up doing is increasing prices on natural because of government restrictions placed on it.

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Then ban restrictions on natural meat

barbacoa taco said:

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Artorias said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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"we're free market conservatives! we believe people have the right to live as they please and buy whatever products they want and not buy what they don't want!*"

*unless it's something I don't like, then I'm banning it and if you are caught with it, straight to jail.

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We are liberals, fighting for muh democracy! Unless you are a political opponent, then we use the power of the govt. to suppress your speech, jail you, remove your ability to do business or banking, etc.

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Lighten up.

You have to admit though, there's really no defending this. The only defense is "lab grown meat sucks anyway." i.e. "I dont like it so it should be banned."

I don't eat lab grown meat. I've had it like once and didn't like it. But in what universe does that mean it should be banned?

Big government Ron just continuing to be the big government authoritarian he is.

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There is not a single thing "big government Ron" has done to negatively impact a normal, middle class American.

TxAgPreacher said:

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Teslag said:

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Seems like you and I are on the same page. Label it, regulate it for safety, but don't ban it outright.

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Ban it from being used in restaurants in place of real meat, and from being hidden in products. Make them put a nasty bug on the label/menu with a giant warning.

Or just ban it outright. Either way... we should aggressively demonize it.

The things you run interference for baffle me.

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Yep. Faux outrage and trying to be upset over inconsequential things. It's just in some people's MO.

beerad12man said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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Teslag said:

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Seems like you and I are on the same page. Label it, regulate it for safety, but don't ban it outright.

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Ban it from being used in restaurants in place of real meat, and from being hidden in products. Make them put a nasty bug on the label/menu with a giant warning.

Or just ban it outright. Either way... we should aggressively demonize it.

The things you run interference for baffle me.

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Yep. Faux outrage and trying to be upset over inconsequential things. It's just in some people's MO.

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Some people's MO is to be a big government liberal. Agreed.

FWIW, I'm not even pro this move. I'd probably prefer he just banned calling it meat and being very open about exactly what it was.

But calling this big government, or Desantis in general, is absolutely laughable. Again, it's faux outrage at it's absolute finest.

Desantis hasn't done a single thing that would affect a normal, every day middle class American like myself in a negative way. Not one. It's simply trying to find reasons to be upset with him and call him authoritarian. Which yes, is the liberal or even libertarian MO.

Worst case, this affects literally no normal person.

Best case, it gets ahead of something before it becomes an issue.

Whoopty freaking do and forgive me for not giving a damn.

It doesn't matter how many people it affects. If you're using the power of government to pick winners and losers in business you're a liberal. If you use the power of government ti stifle business because of muh feels and politics then you're a big government liberal.

I'm a DeSantis supporter but he's not Christ and as such capable of making mistakes.

beerad12man said:

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Worst case, this affects literally no normal person.

Best case, it gets ahead of something before it becomes an issue.

Whoopty freaking do and forgive me for not giving a damn.

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It affects no normal peson.

LOL

Wait until the left uses "normal person" against you.

Guys in girls locker rooms don't affect any normal person.

Right?

Teslag said:

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It doesn't matter how many people it affects. If you're using the power of government to pick winners and losers in business you're a liberal. If you use the power of government ti stifle business because of muh feels and politics then you're a big government liberal.

I'm a DeSantis supporter but he's not Christ and as such capable of making mistakes.

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We've pretty much reached the point where it's my side vs. their side. Labels don't matter.

Authoritarianism is good when it supports things I like.

ban it wherever possible. things are done in steps, and we're already at step 4 of 7.
the final step is always, no choice by law.
so the vote is actually, are we signing up for the plan.

Texas velvet maestro said:

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ban it wherever possible. things are done in steps, and we're already at step 4 of 7.
the final step is always, no choice by law.
so the vote is actually, are we signing up for the plan.

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Liberals

Let's ban something that nobody likes anyway because in the future we may be forced to eat it.

Is that the argument I'm hearing as to why this is good?

How about a state banning it when it ever becomes forced on us? Or, at least ban it when it doesn't taste like total garbage and there are a few folks willing to actually buy it?

This is the first time I can remember not agreeing with a Desantis policy/action. Just let the lab grown "meat" fail on its own in a free market rather than picking a winner, unless there's something inherently unsafe associated with the product.