Calvin and Hobbes is, but of course, now "problematic"

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Squadron7 said:

So there is this guy named Lukas Shayo....who writes about comic books for a living and who has decided that the legendary (IMHO) comic strip Calvin and Hobbes has...well...just not aged well.

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Calvin and Hobbes is often considered a timeless comic strip. Any reader can still enjoy the strip the way Bill Watterson initially intended. The characters, setting, and circumstances always feel like something that could easily be replicated today.

There are some elements, however, that have not aged perfectly. After all, the strip ran from 1985 to 1995. Some of the relationships are too toxic for a modern setting, and some details simply have not added up for the modern age. In fact, some advances in science or changes in cultural perception have rendered some strips relatively incomprehensible.

Toxic! That sounds bad.

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Calvin's parents are often busy taking care of the house or working, leaving Calvin with few opportunities for emotional support. There are times when his parents step in like when Calvin failed to save the baby raccoon but he is more often left to work through problems himself. It is a lot of pressure for a little boy and would not be considered socially acceptable parenting today.

Five bucks says the author of this piece has been in therapy since he was 14.

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The fact that Calvin's parents have no GPS tracker on him, despite Calvin constantly roaming around the town, is unrealistic in the modern world.

Please tell that this is not true, youg'uns. For, if it is, we are doomed.

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At times, Calvin's parents elected to leave him with a young teenager named Rosalyn. Their relationship did improve over the course of Calvin's time with her, but Rosalyn's behavior was initially extremely inappropriate. In the modern world, Rosalyn would be severely criticized for her actions.

After all, Rosalyn regularly threatens Calvin for even the slightest offense. Staying up late or playing too loudly often led to threats of violence or a punishment of solitary confinement.

The horror......the horror.

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Bullying is a serious problem in modern schools, but no one does anything about it in Calvin and Hobbes. Calvin's bully, Moe, regularly threatens to beat him senseless, but no authority figure intervenes or cares. Calvin is often left to his own devices. Even his parents never comment on Moe's actions.

In the modern world, students would receive instant support in the face of bullying, especially if the bully is physically hurting them or stealing from them. Since Miss Wormwood never realized the issue or attempted to help him, Calvin was failed by his school. It would not be viewed in such a comedic way today.

On the bright side, Miss Wormwood didn't insist on Calvin participating in her/his/xer personal psychodramas based upon her possibly numerous and even contradictory genders and sexual preferences. So there is that.

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Today, parents are chastised for not encouraging their children to socially engage with other students from a young age. Calvin's parents, however, rarely encourage him to speak with other 6-year-olds. Calvin's dad often tries to convince him to go outside, but he generally has him wander alone.

At his age, Calvin should be building his social skills with other children, rather than his imaginary tiger. He should also be spending much more time with his parents. The poor parenting in Calvin and Hobbes has not aged well, given that developing child-rearing theories encourage socialization and parental involvement.

Remember when I bet five bucks that this author has been in therapy since age 14? I'm changing this to age 9.

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Most notably, Calvin is generally extremely sexist.

Oh, FFS.





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Science Denier said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

For the love of God, don't let that blithering idiot find out that kids from my generation spent sun-up to sun-down away from the house, without parents knowing exactly where we were at all times, just out with friends having a good time doing things we did in those days. Or movies like Blazing Saddles. Or jokes that we told in those days. Or that we routinely drank water out of a hose in the back yard. Or that we would "jump" our bikes Evel Knievel style over hills or ditches.


And having a gun rack in the back of your truck.

Thanks for reminding me how ****ing old I am.
Well I'm right there with you.
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Most of the time, the fact that characters do things that aren't "socially acceptable" IS THE JOKE.
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ValleyRatAg said:



Probably my favorite C&H strips.
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JaxDad said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

For the love of God, don't let that blithering idiot find out that kids from my generation spent sun-up to sun-down away from the house, without parents knowing exactly where we were at all times, just out with friends having a good time doing things we did in those days. Or movies like Blazing Saddles. Or jokes that we told in those days. Or that we routinely drank water out of a hose in the back yard. Or that we would "jump" our bikes Evel Knievel style over hills or ditches.
Who else had to be back before the streetlights come on?
The term they use today for kids like us is "free range kids".
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One of mine:

Trump will fix it.
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Future screenwriter for Disney.
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I cannot imagine being such a soft minded person that Calvin and Hobbes causes this much distress in your life. I hope this person never has kids or is a mentor. Sadly, we have several on this site this soft, sigh........
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The best with the snowmen is when he had them all lined up saluting the dad when he got home from work.

Calvin and Hobbes and The Far Side are the two greatest comics ever created. Dilbert is right behind them for me as an adult.
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How many of you have been on either side (or both) of this?

Timeless
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Bloom County for me. Opus and Bill the Cat.




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Lukas Shayo should go play in traffic.
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Hobbes01 said:

NOOOOOO!!!

It's not bad enough that they have to ruin current society, but now they want to attack our childhoods too! Wonder how long the list would be of "acceptable" media based on today's standards. Such a crock...
Username DEFINITELY checks out...
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Streetlights? What streetlights? You had to be home before it got so dark you couldn't see the rattlesnakes in the cow trails.
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FFS.

I hope Millenials and Gen Zs will tell this boi to F right off.

Truly, truly one of the dumber things I have ever read. Is it satire?
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I am gonna order the Calvin and Hobbes books just to spite them… and just in case some freak cancels them. And because they are funny and it has been years since I read them.
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I scanned the article and thought it was satire. Are we sure it serious?
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mncag said:

I scanned the article and thought it was satire. Are we sure it serious?
Its not intended as satire but it's not sincere either. It's engagement bait. It's working.
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rab79 said:

Streetlights? What streetlights? You had to be home before it got so dark you couldn't see the rattlesnakes in the cow trails.
Streetlights attracted the insects, which attracted the toads, which attracted the hognose snakes, which attracted me and my friends. We used to have contests to see who could catch the most, the biggest, the smallest, etc. It makes me sad that anybody can grow up so p***ified that they see a threat with a classic cartoon like C&H or the Far Side. Snakes? Ha. This guy would scream if a cricket hopped across his path.
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Should make him read my complete collection of Li'i Abner. It would make his head explode.
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taxpreparer said:

Should make him read my complete collection of Li'i Abner. It would make his head explode.
"We have seen the enemy. And it is us!"

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outofstateaggie said:



The part about having to work through things on his own just flat out pissed me off.

Having to work through difficulty on your own is what builds character and develops you as a human being. Good hell, this generation is so damn soft.
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Goodness…it is a f***ing comic strip…it is not real life…
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C@LAg said:

5 bucks that author was fed soy from a bottle since day 1.

and likely still drinks it via bottle to this day.

Probably Ivy leaguer!
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Jokes on him... He's the one playing Calvin Ball.
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The snowman holding his own head gets me every time.
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This whiny critic guy can get F'ed. what a loser.
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    We strive to deliberately omit editorial bias in the various topics we cover.

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JaxDad said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

For the love of God, don't let that blithering idiot find out that kids from my generation spent sun-up to sun-down away from the house, without parents knowing exactly where we were at all times, just out with friends having a good time doing things we did in those days. Or movies like Blazing Saddles. Or jokes that we told in those days. Or that we routinely drank water out of a hose in the back yard. Or that we would "jump" our bikes Evel Knievel style over hills or ditches.
Who else had to be back before the streetlights come on?
The street light rule didn't work when I was in 2nd - 4th grade in Alaska.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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rab79 said:

Streetlights? What streetlights? You had to be home before it got so dark you couldn't see the rattlesnakes in the cow trails.
The home before dark rule didn't work when I was in 2nd - 4th grade in Alaska.

In the summer, parents gathered together to socialize in several apartments. We(15-20 kids) would be playing dodge ball/tether ball, whatever, well past 10pm, or until the parents realized how late it was. There were weeks we lived in constant twilight, one day a year the sun never set, just followed the horizon.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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That's a lot of time to build bad ass snowmen.
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The dumbass that wrote that article should be mocked and blasted so bad that he never wants to write another article again. The reason stuff like this is written is because they know normal people with common sense will never do anything.
 
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