*** Official Trump Hush Money Trial Thread ***

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Foreverconservative said:

OBJECTION!!!

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Jesus Christ what does any of this bull**** have to do with the charges for Pete's sake
Nothing. This is the whole purpose of the trial really. To get salacious details about Trump back into the public eye.

Complete joke of a justice system.
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Stormy Daniels shrugs as she mentions she had a "very brief" conversation with Trump about his wife, Melania.
She says she asked Trump about Melania and told him she was very beautiful. She recalls Trump saying, "We don't sleep in the same room."
Trump closed his eyes, shook his head and murmured to his attorneys at the defense table as she said this.
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tormy Daniels said she "really wanted" to ask Donald Trump about pro wrestling when they met.
"He was friends with the owner of the company," Vince McMahon, she said.
She laughed on the stand as she recalled comparing the adult film industry to wrestling like World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE). "It's real but it's not," she said.
Daniels recalled that Trump at the time was involved with a bet with McMahon, where if he lost he would have had to shave his head.
"Donald Trump has always been very famous for his do," she says. But he assured her it was all predetermined.
Trump is slumped in his chair and sitting back facing forward as Daniels testifies.
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Trump showed her a magazine cover he was pictured on and Stormy Daniels testified that she said she hadn't seen it.
"Not like I made a habit of reading financial magazines as a 27-year-old stripper," she says on the stand.
Daniels says she snapped at him. "Are you always this rude? Are you always this arrogant and pompous? You don't even know how to have a conversation," she recalls. She testified she spanked him with the magazine "right on the butt."
Trump mouthed something to himself as she told the story, looking annoyed.
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Stormy Daniels says she and Trump talked for about two hours.
"Did you sense any red flags or concerns about being there?" prosecutor Susan Hoffinger asks.
"No," Daniels says.
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Stormy Daniels in her testimony alluded to how Donald Trump's status compared to hers created an intimidating power dynamic, CNN Chief Legal Correspondent Paula Reid said.
Daniels explained how the hotel room was bigger than her past three houses.
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"She also testified that she came from poor background, which added to the asymmetrical power dynamic between the two," Reid noted.

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Is it illegal to f@ck a slvt?
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I've seen elsewhere that Stormy briefly attended A&M studying Vet Medicine, did she say whether or not she actually attended?
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PaulsBunions said:

I've seen elsewhere that Stormy briefly attended A&M studying Vet Medicine, did she say whether or not she actually attended?
She said she did not.
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jja79 said:

Is it illegal to f@ck a slvt?
When the case seems to be trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt Trump had bad morals, yes it is a crime.
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You really don't understand the relevance?

Trump denies he ever had relations with Daniels. This is the State's evidence that it occurred.

It looks like Merchand has erred more than a few times on what he is letting in, but evidence establishing the relationship is relevant.

Of course, the whole thing should have been dismissed long ago, but here we are.

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jja79 said:

Is it illegal to f@ck a slvt?


Not just that, but someone who gets paid to eff guys daily.
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The judge has returned following the morning break, and court is back in session.
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PaulsBunions said:

I've seen elsewhere that Stormy briefly attended A&M studying Vet Medicine, did she say whether or not she actually attended?


She is the cousin of Rock & Rockette too.
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Judge Juan Merchan tells prosecutors he thinks "the degree of detail we're going into here is just unnecessary."

"When she comes back to the stand, we can move it along more quickly," Merchan says, referring to when Stormy Daniels takes the stand again.
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Stormy Daniels is back on the stand.
She avoided looking at Donald Trump while walking back into the room.
Trump was looking at the papers in front of him with his attorney Susan Necheles as Daniels came in.
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TRADUCTOR said:

PaulsBunions said:

I've seen elsewhere that Stormy briefly attended A&M studying Vet Medicine, did she say whether or not she actually attended?


She is the cousin of Rock & Rockette too.
Rockette? how about Rockelle?
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Questioning is picking back up with the hotel interaction between Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump.

Daniels said she drank a couple bottles of water while they were talking, noting that's all they were drinking.
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Daniels explained how the hotel room was bigger than her past three houses.
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What a joke this whole show is.
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I bet she intentionally brought up McMahon to paint Trump in the same light.
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Stormy Daniels is testifying about visiting Trump's hotel room and then going into the bathroom to call her friend again.
She said the call was going straight to voicemail.
While in the bathroom, she looked through his toiletry bag.
"There was a leather looking toiletry bag on the counter with products and stuff in it," Daniels says. "I did look and I'm not proud of it," Daniels says, adding, "'Ooh, I wonder what's in here?'" She continues, "The toiletries were Old Spice and Pert Plus. I thought that was amusing and odd." She added there was also a gold manicure set.
"Mr. Trump had come into the bedroom and was on the bed," she says, adding that he was wearing a boxer and T-shirts.
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Stormy Daniels says she "felt like the room spun in slow motion" when she left the bathroom.
"I felt the blood leave my hands and my feet almost like if you stand up too fast," Daniels says. "I thought, 'oh my god, what did i misread to get here?'"
"At first I was just startled, like a jump scare. I wasn't expecting someone to be there, especially minus a lot of clothing," she says of Trump, who she says was sitting on the bed in boxers and a T-shirt.
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"The intention was pretty clear, somebody stripped down to their underwear and is posing for you," Stormy Daniels testified.
"He stood up between me and the door. Not in a threatening manner. He didn't come at me, he didn't rush at me. Nothing like that," Daniels said.
"When I exited he was just up on the bed, like this," Daniels said, lifting her leg up from her chair.
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Stormy Daniels says she was not threatened but Donald Trump was physically larger.
"There was an imbalance of power for sure. He was bigger and blocking the way. I was not threatened verbally or physically," Daniels said.
Daniels estimated Trump was "definitely several inches taller, and much larger," putting her hand above her head to measure.
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Stormy Daniels is describing what happened next in the hotel room.
"I had my clothes and my shoes off. I removed my bra. We were in missionary position," Daniels says.
Asked if she remembers how her clothes came off, she says no. "Next thing I know I was on the bed," she testifies.
Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger is trying to elicit more details, but the objections are sustained.
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Good thing the judge is keeping this on track by preventing it from getting into salacious porno details. Utter farce.
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So they are going to paint him as a bit of a rapist.
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Stormy Daniels says she remembers sitting at the end of the bed. She says "it was really hard to get my shoe on because my hands were shaking so hard."

"I just left as fast as I could. That was it," she says.
Really? Eye roll.
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Tramp96 said:

So they are going to paint him as a bit of a rapist.
Goes along the whole Access Hollywood portion of their "case."
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Stormy Daniels testified that Donald Trump did not express concern about his wife Melania when they had the encounter.
Daniels confirmed he also didn't ask her to keep it confidential.
"I told very few people that we had actually had sex because I felt ashamed that I didn't stop it," Daniels said.
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Asked if she remembers how her clothes came off, she says no. "Next thing I know I was on the bed,
That is not believable at all!


Trying to soft-cell this as semi-non-consensual is an enormous stretch, and I bet it bites the State in the rear.

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Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger tried to ask Stormy Daniels about her memory, leading to an objection by Trump attorney Susan Necheles.
The judge asked them to come to the bench.
Hoffinger had asked Daniels if there were things she remembered later about the encounter.
While the attorneys are still at the bench, Trump's attorney Emil Bove and Trump are in a conversation at the defense table, as they have been during most side bars today.
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"Did you see Mr. Trump again in Tahoe the next day?" prosecutor Susan Hoffinger asks, moving on from questions about her memory of the encounter.

"Yes," Daniels says.
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Stephanie was not a fragile flower. LOL.
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Stormy Daniels testified she met Trump at a night club the next day.
His bodyguard Keith Schiller called her and asked if she would meet with Trump again, and she agreed because it was in public.
Trump was at a table with football player Ben Roethlisberger when she approached them.
"He introduced me as his little friend Stormy to 'Big Ben,'" she said. Daniels confirmed he addressed the football player as "Big Ben."
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Im Gipper said:

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Asked if she remembers how her clothes came off, she says no. "Next thing I know I was on the bed,
That is not believable at all!


Trying to soft-cell this as semi-non-consensual is an enormous stretch, and I bet it bites the State in the rear.
100% reading this testimony comes off as a rape and 0% chance that's believable.

Was only drinking water, so no alcohol or drugs (presumed), and she can remember the contents of his toiletry bag yet has absolutely no recollection of how her clothes came off? I'd sure question that in cross.
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Im Gipper said:

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Asked if she remembers how her clothes came off, she says no. "Next thing I know I was on the bed,
That is not believable at all!


Trying to soft-cell this as semi-non-consensual is an enormous stretch, and I bet it bites the State in the rear.
It's believable because that woman loves the D.
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Stormy plays the 'prostitute with a heart of gold' literary archetype.

The prosecutions own Mary Magdalene.

They've somehow managed to conscript their chief political rival into starring in a live action theatre performance in NYC!

2024!

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!
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She remembers looking through his toiletry bag and all these other details, but can't remember how her clothes came off bull****
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aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels testified she met Trump at a night club the next day.
His bodyguard Keith Schiller called her and asked if she would meet with Trump again, and she agreed because it was in public.
Trump was at a table with football player Ben Roethlisberger when she approached them.
"He introduced me as his little friend Stormy to 'Big Ben,'" she said. Daniels confirmed he addressed the football player as "Big Ben."

How many different ways can they insinuate Trump is a rapist lol
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Stormy Daniels says she told her friend Keith about the encounter. He was a photographer and she rented her house from him, describing him as a close friend.
She then went on to list several other friends she told.
"I told lots and lots of people that I had gone to his room and I met him. It wasn't a secret at all," Daniels says. "The sex part I told very few, very close people."
Reading all of this, I am wondering where do you go on cross? Prior inconsistent statements and then where?
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Stormy Daniels says in the weeks after they met, she began speaking with Trump often, at times once a week.
"I'd always put him on speaker phone," she says, noting that "dozens and dozens of people" heard her on the phone with Trump. She adds that she didn't tell him when he was on speaker phone.
Daniel also notes that Trump called her "honey bunch," which she says was "weird."
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Judge Juan Merchan interjected as Stormy Daniels was beginning to go on a tangent about her publicist, saying it was good she had dinner with Donald Trump.

Merchan told Daniels to listen to the question and answer the question.
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Im Gipper said:

You really don't understand the relevance?

Trump denies he ever had relations with Daniels. This is the State's evidence that it occurred.

It looks like Merchand has erred more than a few times on what he is letting in, but evidence establishing the relationship is relevant.

Of course, the whole thing should have been dismissed long ago, but here we are.



Trump is not charged with having a relationship. It has no relevance whatsoever in this case.
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