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Long way to go until November
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

Long way to go until November
Yep and mamala has been flying below the radar. Once she has to talk and take questions, defend some of the things she has said, she will sink like a turd in the punch bowl.
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It is far from over. Lol

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She has surged in the polls (relatively speaking) by going underground. This is what Biden did as well. There is zero incentive for her to do interviews, etc. She doesnt need to. This will be her strategy until election day. Just running out the clock.
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Wow. This is terrible news for the propagandists than need to pretend the race is close.


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BoDog said:

She has surged in the polls (relatively speaking) by going underground. This is what Biden did as well. There is zero incentive for her to do interviews, etc. She doesnt need to. This will be her strategy until election day. Just running out the clock.


She will if Trump holds a lead in the polls. Biden didn't do anything in 2020 because the polls told him he was out in front by a lot, therefore he didn't need to do anything. Earlier this year, even before the debate, you saw Biden doing more public things which led to more viral gaffes. This was because his poll numbers were bad and he had to do something.

If the polling looks bad for Kamala you can bet they're going try and get things going with more face time outside of rallies (which nobody pays attention to).
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BoDog said:

She has surged in the polls (relatively speaking) by going underground. This is what Biden did as well. There is zero incentive for her to do interviews, etc. She doesnt need to. This will be her strategy until election day. Just running out the clock.


The last two weeks of polls were specifically designed to squash momentum for Trump and dampen the enthusiasm of Republican voters. All by design.
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Interesting they have Trump leading so much with the undecideds.

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BoDog said:

She has surged in the polls (relatively speaking) by going underground. This is what Biden did as well. There is zero incentive for her to do interviews, etc. She doesnt need to. This will be her strategy until election day. Just running out the clock.


She has it easy, just like Biden did in 2020 when you have a complicit media at your beck and call that do nothing but cover for you 24/7.
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jt2hunt said:


Thank God. Hopefully the honeymoon with kamala is almost over.
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It is. The hide from the press schtick won't work with her trailing, and there aren't any more young-dumb/hamas/antifa voters who will buy into the propaganda:
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CNBC and Rasmussen Reports have new data on Thursday giving Trump an edge, with CNBC attributing his lead to growing concerns about the economy and a surge of support from middle-aged voters.
CNBC said Trump leads by 2 points, 48%-46%, within the margin of error.

In that survey, Trump leads Harris 2-to-1 on who would handle the economy better.

What's more, while Harris has helped to revive Democratic support from youthful voters, there has been a swing to Trump among millennials and Generation X voters.

"Young voters showed far greater support for Harris than they did for Biden, backing the vice president now by 10 points, compared to backing Trump by 2 points in the NBC July poll. That was offset by a big swing of 12 points among voters aged 35-49 towards Trump. The age group now supports Trump by 9 points," the story on the poll said.

In the Rasmussen Reports poll, Trump has maintained his lead, 49%-44%, in a head-to-head contest.
The big change in that survey is the apparent shift of support from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to Trump. A week earlier, Trump led Harris by just 1 point in the six-way matchup, while Kennedy was at 5%. Now, Kennedy is at 3%, and Trump leads Harris in that multi-candidate lineup 49%-44%.
No matter what 'net' picture you look at today/this weekend, if the election were held on Monday, Trump would easily win the EC. Trump dominates on the biggest issue, and scandals around stolen valor etc. mean there is zero momentum now for the commie ticket, which by virtue of being so radical is unlikely to be able to peel more moderate/independent voters away, which is also why Kennedy support is moving to Trump. Trump's plan to cut taxes entirely from social security will also pull more senior voters especially.

Again, 'adults' and RV polls don't mean much at this point. Larger LV polls are much more useful;
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Rasmussen skews Republican. Wait for more polls.
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Waffledynamics said:

Rasmussen skews Republican. Wait for more polls.


No they do not!
They skew to LV
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Waffledynamics said:

Rasmussen skews Republican. Wait for more polls.
Even Nate Silver says that's only by about 1.5 pts.

So, Trump would still hold a 3.5 pt lead - which is outside the MoE.
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Waffledynamics said:

Rasmussen skews Republican. Wait for more polls.


Go watch the 15 minute video they just put out yesterday about their methodology. It's informative.

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oh no said:

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it's crazy because there is no way that Rasmussen is correct-

if it was then every poll in every state would show Trump with a +2 or +3 lead in PA, WI, MI

I think it has been 50 years since a Republican won +5.

so that's a very poor outlier.
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watch the Rasmussen video linked directly above your post.
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You don't follow Ras for the datapoint, you follow for the trend. As Ras moves, so does the general environment. If they show movement for Trump over several weeks time, there's movement for Trump.
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The TDS folks just refuse to believe it when the polls go against them. You'd think by now they would comprehend that these polls mean absolutely nothing right now, for either candidate. The media and polling companies trying to influence.
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Looks like her climb in the polls are about out of gas. I can see it moving a little more up but not much more.

18 days since the switch, nothing but ass kissing by MSM, endorsements, large rallies with rappers, Big Tech history deleting, and 310 million dollars. Not to mention they already had a massive ground game with Biden. All those advantages And

The best they could muster is +0.8 national Harris lead. Trump +1.2 average swing state lead

All Harris has left is the convention, that will not give her a huge bump.

Once her new high is over, the polls will do nothing but go down for her. Economy sucks for everyone, everyday. Wars everywhere, crime out of hand, illegals everywhere.

She cannot hide much longer, that is not an option for her and the Dems this time
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It won't fully subside until the second week after the convention.
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In addition to being a key player in the coverup of Joe Biden's senility, Harris needs to be relentlessly tied to the failures of the Biden-Harris administration of the last 3.5 years while she's out there giving speeches at her rallies about how she's going to fix things "starting on day 1" of her administration. It's pretty sick how she gets a full pass in the media when she rants about inflation and how it's going to be her day 1 priority if she's elected. She has championed ending fossil fuels along with green new deal type of spending in the trillions during an inflationary period. There is no genuine way someone who was so unpopular- lowest favorability ratings for a VP ever- is killing it with enthusiasm of likely and registered voters all-of-a-sudden. Polls are corrupted and she'll get another "surge" with the convention so if they Maduro this election like they did the last one, they can claim it appears reasonable.
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2023NCAggies said:

Looks like her climb in the polls are about out of gas. I can see it moving a little more up but not much more.

18 days since the switch, nothing but ass kissing by MSM, endorsements, large rallies with rappers, Big Tech history deleting, and 310 million dollars. Not to mention they already had a massive ground game with Biden. All those advantages And

The best they could muster is +0.8 national Harris lead. Trump +1.2 average swing state lead

All Harris has left is the convention, that will not give her a huge bump.

Once her new high is over, the polls will do nothing but go down for her. Economy sucks for everyone, everyday. Wars everywhere, crime out of hand, illegals everywhere.

She cannot hide much longer, that is not an option for her and the Dems this time

Will be curious which speakers will be chosen. I have seen some speculation that it will go retro with the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas, Gore, hell they might just wheel Ol' Jimmah Carter out there on a gurney for that matter.

The Dem bench is not that deep and other than Shapiro, who actually can deliver a good speech, not that young. Trotting out grand poohbah elders of the Dem Party won't generate a lot of eyeballs, IMO.
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aggiehawg said:

2023NCAggies said:

Looks like her climb in the polls are about out of gas. I can see it moving a little more up but not much more.

18 days since the switch, nothing but ass kissing by MSM, endorsements, large rallies with rappers, Big Tech history deleting, and 310 million dollars. Not to mention they already had a massive ground game with Biden. All those advantages And

The best they could muster is +0.8 national Harris lead. Trump +1.2 average swing state lead

All Harris has left is the convention, that will not give her a huge bump.

Once her new high is over, the polls will do nothing but go down for her. Economy sucks for everyone, everyday. Wars everywhere, crime out of hand, illegals everywhere.

She cannot hide much longer, that is not an option for her and the Dems this time

Will be curious which speakers will be chosen. I have seen some speculation that it will go retro with the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas, Gore, hell they might just wheel Ol' Jimmah Carter out there on a gurney for that matter.

The Dem bench is not that deep and other than Shapiro, who actually can deliver a good speech, not that young. Trotting out grand poohbah elders of the Dem Party won't generate a lot of eyeballs, IMO.
Michelle and Barack, as well as HRC, are certains. My guess is that they will let AOC, do her thing, too.
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Barnyard96 said:


That all looks decent for Trump at this point in time. Most troubling one IMO is Georgia - he is on a trajectory to lose there, which seems crazy thinking back to a few weeks ago.
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Kamala is hitting a swing state everyday. Watch that trend.
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LMCane said:

oh no said:

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it's crazy because there is no way that Rasmussen is correct-

if it was then every poll in every state would show Trump with a +2 or +3 lead in PA, WI, MI

I think it has been 50 years since a Republican won +5.

so that's a very poor outlier.


Wrong. All the other polls are heavy D leans. It's on purpose. D+5, D+4. And those even show Trump tied or very slightly behind.

They are trying the narrative that heels up has momentum. They do this every cycle. Hell, even Rush would show this to be the case and that was a long time ago.
LOL OLD
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I seem to recall in 2016, all of the polls had Hillary up but KellyAnne kept saying their internal polling was not showing the same thing. So who knows?
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aggiehawg said:

I seem to recall in 2016, all of the polls had Hillary up but KellyAnne kept saying their internal polling was not showing the same thing. So who knows?


And remember Hillary's late "oh crap" push jn the blue wall?
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Barnyard96 said:

aggiehawg said:

I seem to recall in 2016, all of the polls had Hillary up but KellyAnne kept saying their internal polling was not showing the same thing. So who knows?


And remember Hillary's late "oh crap" push jn the blue wall?
Yes. I will give Ronna McDaniel props for one thing, she kept asking Trump to come back to Michigan because she believed it was gettable for him. So he did.

Compare and contrast that to 2008 when McCain pulled out of Michigan shortly after the RNC convention and Sarah Palin objected that she wanted to mix itup with hockey moms in Michigan? McCain campaign was mad at Palin over that comment. Said she went rogue.
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