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This poll has historically underpolled rural white voters and underestimated Trump support.
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The regression line of DOOM!

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Captn_Ag05 said:



This poll has historically underpolled rural white voters and underestimated Trump support.


Had a chance to dig into this one a bit further. It shows Trump up 11 with independents. So how do they have Harris up 1 overall? They have democrats going for Harris 99%-0%.

Not happening. Absolute garbage result. Also tells me their sample is over urban/educated. They didn't pick up the rural old school Democrat that will vote Republican.
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Wow, thx. That's just funny, really.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Captn_Ag05 said:



This poll has historically underpolled rural white voters and underestimated Trump support.


Had a chance to dig into this one a bit further. It shows Trump up 11 with independents. So how do they have Harris up 1 overall? They have democrats going for Harris 99%-0%.

Not happening. Absolute garbage result. Also tells me their sample is over urban/educated. They didn't pick up the rural old school Democrat that will vote Republican.
polls by major media are just propaganda at this point. And fox reports in all of them with a straight face. Now as we get closer the polls usually try to adjust their party breakouts more accurately to get the final results that they need. But now they are just trying to intimidate Trump voters, reduce his funding by Americans and create an illusion of certainty that isn't there for Kamala.
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MILWAUKEE A new Marquette Law School Poll national survey finds Vice President Kamala Harris is the choice for president of 52% of registered voters and former President Donald Trump is the choice of 48%. Among likely voters, Harris receives 53% and Trump 47%. These results include voters who initially did not choose Harris or Trump but who were then asked whom they would vote for if they had to choose.

In a May 6-15, 2024, Marquette Law School Poll national survey, Trump was the choice of 50% and President Joe Biden was the pick of 50% Among registered voters, while Trump took 51% of likely voters and Biden 49%.

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/2024/08/07/mlspsc21-release/
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No one knows anything!



My operating theory is that the polls aren't necessarily skewed, and I'm not a poll truther. Pollsters make their money by being hired by campaigns. Campaigns hire pollsters that get it right. So going by that logic, I suspect that pollsters are falling for the hype. The Kamala sugar high is infecting the models. When it wears off (and it probably has a few weeks to go because of the convention) things will come back to earth for her.

That's not to say Trump has it in the bag. It's going to be razor close and he's playing in tilt right now. But Vance is just getting better and better on the stump, and I bet the campaign is using those stops to see how to focus the campaign's message.
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Anyone can make a poll, you have to look at the sampling methods and poll grading. Side note: has anyone here actually been asked to participate in a political poll??
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Interesting poll. Mostly Milwaukee residents. Economy most important issue by clear plurality:


Most favor deportation and independents of course don't really know what they value as most important:

Some weird R+1 breakdown, I guess, though they seem to call it various different ways:
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this is a very important piece of the puzzle. If Trump is really leading on the economy

he has a great chance to win. also showing a CNBC poll of +2 Trump overall.

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DonHenley said:

Anyone can make a poll, you have to look at the sampling methods and poll grading. Side note: has anyone here actually been asked to participate in a political poll??
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very effective pravda programming has far too many in the masses believing they need to vote for the marxist regime to continue on it's destructive and divisive spree along with the spending/inflation, open border, and forever wars as the lesser of two evils because of their healthcare right to crush fetus skulls whenever they want.
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nortex97 said:

Interesting poll. Mostly Milwaukee residents. Economy most important issue by clear plurality:


Most favor deportation and independents of course don't really know what they value as most important:

Some weird R+1 breakdown, I guess, though they seem to call it various different ways:

LOL, most liberals think of themselves as "independent".
LOL OLD
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This side by side pic I keep seeing of them cracks me up. Tell you are bias without saying it.

Trump looks old and crotchety and Kamala looks young, vibrant and borderline attractive. More or less the exact opposite to how she appears now.
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BoDog said:

This side by side pic I keep seeing of them cracks me up. Tell you are bias without saying it.

Trump looks old and crotchety and Kamala looks young, vibrant and borderline attractive. More or less the exact opposite to how she appears now.
Judging by the staging of the photo (the background), i wouldn't be surprised if that is a campaign approved image.

The difference in the photos is more a reflection on the difference in what is expected in a male leader and a female leader. Beauty, and youth are more valuable for women. For men, seriousness and composure.
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texagbeliever said:

BoDog said:

This side by side pic I keep seeing of them cracks me up. Tell you are bias without saying it.

Trump looks old and crotchety and Kamala looks young, vibrant and borderline attractive. More or less the exact opposite to how she appears now.
Judging by the staging of the photo (the background), i wouldn't be surprised if that is a campaign approved image.

The difference in the photos is more a reflection on the difference in what is expected in a male leader and a female leader. Beauty, and youth are more valuable for women. For men, seriousness and composure.
Good to know. I obviously have zero experience in marketing.
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Rasmussen is kind of a terrible pollster for actual hard numbers, but they are great as a trend indicator. If you see Trump moving up or moving down there, that's generally the way things are going to go in the coming days/weeks.
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I agree and it's actually pretty amazing that the "polls" of registered voters and oversampling dems are still showing Trump basically tied.

it has always been a strategy for the PRAVDA media to create a vision of Trump getting buried, thus people on the fence want to go with the "winning team"

Trump needs to do everything he can to keep it close the next two months.
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Not me.
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Captn_Ag05 said:


Excuse the dumb question, is this a national poll or an Iowa poll? I'm a little confused by it being tweeted out by the account @IAPolls2022. Cause if it's a national poll, holy crap that is a big outlier it seems like? If it's an Iowa poll, that would line up pretty well correct?

EDIT: I tried to click the link but it looks like it's a paywalled.
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Says

2024 GE:

I would think that's a national poll general election.
LOL OLD
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IA is short for Interactive not Iowa. The account is a betting market affiliate. It posts like every poll done.
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RED AG 98 said:

all without a single interview or question since she's become the nom appointee

This is not maintainable. It only proves that media can control and manipulate the soft headed lemmings.

This will change as she exposed as the fraud she is. Or the country will be destroyed by a commie puppet.
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Gotcha, thanks guys
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Drahknor03 said:

No one knows anything!



My operating theory is that the polls aren't necessarily skewed, and I'm not a poll truther. Pollsters make their money by being hired by campaigns. Campaigns hire pollsters that get it right. So going by that logic, I suspect that pollsters are falling for the hype. The Kamala sugar high is infecting the models. When it wears off (and it probably has a few weeks to go because of the convention) things will come back to earth for her.

That's not to say Trump has it in the bag. It's going to be razor close and he's playing in tilt right now. But Vance is just getting better and better on the stump, and I bet the campaign is using those stops to see how to focus the campaign's message.


Campaigns do their own internal polls that are decidedly more authentic and accurate than the polls we see. The polls that most newspapers (cnn, msnbc, fox) and universities (Marquette)publish are usually from orgs aligned with democrats at this point. They eventually tighten up their procedures in October to be able to claim accuracy at the end with results. But now it's mostly agitprop.
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A Wisconsin poll on the Sunday before election day 2020 had Biden +31.
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I looked at party registration by state.

DC has a split of R to D of 13%R vs 76%D (rest independent). Think about that. No other state or "state" has a % for one party over 57% (Wyoming for Rs and Vermont for Ds).

DC is the swamp and DC is democrat. Ergo Democrats are the swamp.
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That one's moderately concerning as it's a good LV poll.

This one is a similar spread, but against Tester in MT who is the incumbent communist senator. I am encouraged by this one (Tester basically down 2).

I do think the margin has tightened but Harris enthusiasm will plummet once they let her start babbling again.
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Its over


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Barnyard96 said:

Its over



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