1. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and is King of Kings. If anyone is offended that I say that, I don't care. They don't have to like or believe what I say.

2. Candace Owens is awesome. Those that call her a grifter are clueless. I've never seen any evidence of that. I've only seen evidence of her obliterating every leftist she comes into contact with, including members of Congress.

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1. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and is King of Kings. If anyone is offended that I say that, I don't care. They don't have to like or believe what I say.

2. Candace Owens is awesome. Those that call her a grifter are clueless. I've never seen any evidence of that. I've only seen evidence of her obliterating every leftist she comes into contact with, including members of Congress.

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I don't think she's a grifter. I do think she has takes that aren't well considered at all and then clings to them do the death. And I do think she has at least toyed with inflammatory takes seemingly trying to get herself fired. That's not even really a hot take. She said she was free once she was let go, so she was obviously looking for it.

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Look above I posted the verses.

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By the way, I agree with you about men wearing women's clothes lol.

snowdog90 said:

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1. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and is King of Kings. If anyone is offended that I say that, I don't care. They don't have to like or believe what I say.

2. Candace Owens is awesome. Those that call her a grifter are clueless. I've never seen any evidence of that. I've only seen evidence of her obliterating every leftist she comes into contact with, including members of Congress.

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Except you don't have a right to say it to someone's face for the intention of harassing them, especially if they've asked or told you to stop. You especially don't have the right to do it at work if your boss told you not to.

Talking to someone about Jesus is fine, in fact we're commanded to do it. However, there is a right way to do it, and being a jerk toward someone who doesn't believe is not the correct way.

And yes, she is a grifter, always looking for the next thing to beg for money over, and now she's attaching herself to a man who openly admits he wants to genocide at least half the country and probably 9/10ths of it because few would meet the purity standard that the Christian fascists would demand.

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snowdog90 said:

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1. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and is King of Kings. If anyone is offended that I say that, I don't care. They don't have to like or believe what I say.

2. Candace Owens is awesome. Those that call her a grifter are clueless. I've never seen any evidence of that. I've only seen evidence of her obliterating every leftist she comes into contact with, including members of Congress.

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I don't think she's a grifter. I do think she has takes that aren't well considered at all and then clings to them do the death. And I do think she has at least toyed with inflammatory takes seemingly trying to get herself fired. That's not even really a hot take. She said she was free once she was let go, so she was obviously looking for it.

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Yes...I think she's the kind of person who looks for hot takes to makes and then doubles and triples down in the face of it. I also think she has some pretty bad takes in general.

I think her intent has always been to use Prager and then DailyWire as stepping stones to going it alone...it was the only way she was ever going to be actually happy. So she used those groups to grow her following, made some real hot takes and then gets out.

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BQRyno said:

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snowdog90 said:

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1. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and is King of Kings. If anyone is offended that I say that, I don't care. They don't have to like or believe what I say.

2. Candace Owens is awesome. Those that call her a grifter are clueless. I've never seen any evidence of that. I've only seen evidence of her obliterating every leftist she comes into contact with, including members of Congress.

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I don't think she's a grifter. I do think she has takes that aren't well considered at all and then clings to them do the death. And I do think she has at least toyed with inflammatory takes seemingly trying to get herself fired. That's not even really a hot take. She said she was free once she was let go, so she was obviously looking for it.

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Yes...I think she's the kind of person who looks for hot takes to makes and then doubles and triples down in the face of it. I also think she has some pretty bad takes in general.

I think her intent has always been to use Prager and then DailyWire as stepping stones to going it alone...it was the only way she was ever going to be actually happy. So she used those groups to grow her following, made some real hot takes and then gets out.

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Agreed. On your second point, I think it's telling that after PragerU and despite Prager's loose relationship with DW, there's basically no collaboration between Prager and Candace. That always struck me as odd.

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snowdog90 said:

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1. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and is King of Kings. If anyone is offended that I say that, I don't care. They don't have to like or believe what I say.

2. Candace Owens is awesome. Those that call her a grifter are clueless. I've never seen any evidence of that. I've only seen evidence of her obliterating every leftist she comes into contact with, including members of Congress.

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Except you don't have a right to say it to someone's face for the intention of harassing them, especially if they've asked or told you to stop. You especially don't have the right to do it at work if your boss told you not to.

Talking to someone about Jesus is fine, in fact we're commanded to do it. However, there is a right way to do it, and being a jerk toward someone who doesn't believe is not the correct way.

And yes, she is a grifter, always looking for the next thing to beg for money over, and now she's attaching herself to a man who openly admits he wants to genocide at least half the country and probably 9/10ths of it because few would meet the purity standard that the Christian fascists would demand.

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Who says Candace said it "for the intention of harassing" someone?

Give me some examples of Candace grifting. I've seen lots of her YouTube clips, never seen her "beg for money". How has she "attached herself" to someone who wants genocide?

Who are these "Christian fascists" you're talking about?

Basically, your post is a bunch of ad hominem bull**** claims with no evidence.

Candace Owens is awesome.

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And as a Baptist, we believe that's why we have the Bible lol. I don't think anything I'm unsure of endangers my salvation. I'll ask God to fill me in when I see Him.

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Why would God give us a Bible that is full of allegory and parable, and leave us to our individual interpretation?

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And as a Baptist, we believe that's why we have the Bible lol. I don't think anything I'm unsure of endangers my salvation. I'll ask God to fill me in when I see Him.

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Why would God give us a Bible that is full of allegory and parable, and leave us to our individual interpretation?

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I think that topic is a tad TOO far off topic for this thread. And we'll never agree. I'll opt to leave it there.

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Well I mean you just blended what the previous poster said. He said they were in hell. Pretty big pivot to change hell to afterlife. Where in the Bible to we learn about an afterlife that's not heaven or hell? We don't. So you're telling me God took Elijah where exactly?

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I explicitly said this was after Jesus. Why are you trying to apply what I said to the OT?

Let him pray on it. He may come around.

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BQRyno said:

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Well I mean you just blended what the previous poster said. He said they were in hell. Pretty big pivot to change hell to afterlife. Where in the Bible to we learn about an afterlife that's not heaven or hell? We don't. So you're telling me God took Elijah where exactly?

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I explicitly said this was after Jesus. Why are you trying to apply what I said to the OT?

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I was referring to another poster, not you. I asked about how people went to heaven prior to Christ, and he said they didn't plus some more that we discussed afterward.

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Nanomachines son said:

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BQRyno said:

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Well I mean you just blended what the previous poster said. He said they were in hell. Pretty big pivot to change hell to afterlife. Where in the Bible to we learn about an afterlife that's not heaven or hell? We don't. So you're telling me God took Elijah where exactly?

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I explicitly said this was after Jesus. Why are you trying to apply what I said to the OT?

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I was referring to another poster, not you. I asked about how people went to heaven prior to Christ, and he said they didn't plus some more that we discussed afterward.

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Prior to Jesus' it's really kinda weird. We know some went directly to Heaven like Elijah and Enoch, but outside of that you really have to go deep into Jewish tradition and ancient Hebrew, but that's a very long conversation.

Michael Heiser, one of the experts in this arena, explains it in detail here:

https://drmsh.com/sheol-does-the-ot-have-a-concept-of-eternal-bliss-or-heaven/

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BQRyno said:

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And as a Baptist, we believe that's why we have the Bible lol. I don't think anything I'm unsure of endangers my salvation. I'll ask God to fill me in when I see Him.

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Why would God give us a Bible that is full of allegory and parable, and leave us to our individual interpretation?

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IDK. Because He's funny that way?

Maybe it's just that pesky free will?

Maybe humans have screwed up the Scriptures for years?

Maybe He want's us to find and learn our own way?

If scripture was supposed to be such a clear manual, why didn't He make it clearer and more consistent?

Oh, and FWIW the prime directive of the federal government is supposed to be "to ensure individual liberty".

Not an accident that challenge came in at 4pm on Friday.

Ben would DESTROY her in a debate.

What is a groyper?

Never heard this term before this thread.

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What is a groyper?

Never heard this term before this thread.

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its what nick fuentes and those types call themselves

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Ben would DESTROY her in a debate.

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So much this. The guy never speaks about anything without doing a f'k-ton of research on the topic.

I don't always agree with him, but he never doesn't get my respect.

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Ben would DESTROY her in a debate.

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I don't always agree with him, but he never doesn't get my respect.

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His takes on bacon lost my respect.

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Ben would DESTROY her in a debate.

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So much this. The guy never speaks about anything without doing a f'k-ton of research on the topic.

I don't always agree with him, but he never doesn't get my respect.

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Has ben ever actually debated someone at his own midwit IQ level? Ive only seen him throw hissy fits and storm off on news interviews or dunk on ****** commie NPC college students.

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No Spin Ag said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Ben would DESTROY her in a debate.

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So much this. The guy never speaks about anything without doing a f'k-ton of research on the topic.

I don't always agree with him, but he never doesn't get my respect.

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Has ben ever actually debated someone at his own midwit IQ level? Ive only seen him throw hissy fits and storm off on news interviews or dunk on ****** commie NPC college students.

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No, all he debates are gender studies diversity hires and liberal lesbian 19 year olds

Pookers said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Ben would DESTROY her in a debate.

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So much this. The guy never speaks about anything without doing a f'k-ton of research on the topic.

I don't always agree with him, but he never doesn't get my respect.

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Has ben ever actually debated someone at his own midwit IQ level? Ive only seen him throw hissy fits and storm off on news interviews or dunk on ****** commie NPC college students.

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He did a debate/discussion with Destiny just a couple months ago. One could argue if Destiny has an IQ that reaches triple digits, however...