Tramp96 said:

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LMCane said:

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question for the resident astrologists

so does this mean only the people within the lines can see majority of the eclipse?

or that the closer you get to the lines, you will see more of it as a percentage?

so does it make sense to go from DC to Bedford Springs PA because it is closer to the event line? or it really doeesn't matter?

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My house is directly on the left side purple line. Does that mean I get a full or just nearly full eclipse?

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Yeah look at the links posted to see your totality time. If you're smack dab on the edge you'll only see a few seconds of totality as the edge of the circular shadow skirts by you. If you go several miles in it will make a significant difference is length of time.

HTownAg98 said:

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Imagine living in a town of 10,000 people or less, and having 100,000+ people descend on your town overnight, whiping out supplies, creating traffic, etc. they're declaring disaster areas to be proactive to better manage the influx.

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Locusts

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dccbq80 said:

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Most likely, the cell systems in the path of totality will be overwhelmed too. A lot of people will be helpless. Law enforcement and emergency services will be hard to contact if you need them. The roads will all be overwhelmed with traffic. It will be a huge mess. That being said, you don't want to miss this.

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We did not have those issues in 2017

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I went to an RHCP concert in Minute Maid park last year and could not download anything on my phone over the cell towers. First high density event I've been to in a while.

The crowds for this thing will overwhelm that event.

I can definitely see it being an issue.

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Every hotel room in this town was booked.

We had no cell phone issues.

That makes sense.

Regarding the emergency declarations, they seem to be going beyond "if you plan to travel into a point of totality to view the event, or if you are in a path of totality, take the following actions - expect long waits - etc.....". They are too prepper-ish IMO.

I could be wrong. But deploying national guard for an eclipse event seems a bit much to me.

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SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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Due to influx of visitors and expected traffic problems, we are proactively working with medical centers to increase blood supplies over the weekend and through the event. Just to help ensure we dont have delays on delivery in the event of needs.

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Count me as a skeptic, personally, but this lines up with what I have been hearing.

I spoke with a nurse supervisor at Scott & White in Temple. She told me they are planning to be fully staffed with many people staying at the hospital in anticipation of an influx.

A guy in planning on Fort Hood told me they were briefed to expect 2.6-3.2 million people in the I-14 corridor, basically Temple to Lampasas. Again, I am quite skeptical, but that is what they were told. I even had someone tell me she was buying a month of groceries for her family.

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Buying a months with our groceries is extreme. Someone getting two weeks wouldn't be. That would be a weeks work off groceries then anticipating stores taking a week to get all of the little odds and ends sorted back out.

Regarding the numbers, respectfully I Believe your scepticism is misplaced. These communities and everyone are obviously preparing for worst case numbers, but they have data to back it up. They know what the hotels are seeing, they know what the campsites are seeing, they know what the RV places are seeing. Folks are selling no services RV slots on their ranches. It will not surprise me to see cars and trucks just pulled off the roads.

And throughout the hill country and will all of rural Texas you're looking at just two lane roads for miles and miles.

Edit to add... Regarding cell phones. I know ATT has what they call COWs, Cell On Wheels. They're trailer mounted portable cell towers they take to appointment ultra high cell demand/density events and to disaster areas when infrastructure is damaged.

In the early days off the Eagle For shale, with all of the rigs and crews, you'd have 4 bars and be unable to make it receive a call. There simply was no capacity on the network

aggiez03 said:

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What I heard is that they are proactively declaring certain counties disasters so they can request additional police and the state/fed (I assume) will cover the cost of it.

Fredericksburg is supposed to be completely overwhelmed.

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The formerly sovereign border is a disaster every day and doesn't get reinforcement

I was in Pigeon Forge for the last total eclipse. It was mayhem

The parking lot for my office building in Kerrville has been rented for the day for $35K, Entire parking lot --- maybe 50 spots. We are not going to be open that day. A lot of my fellow business owners in Kerrville are closing, renting out their parking lots, etc. They (whoever they are) are expecting upwards of 500,000 in the Kerrville, Fredericksburg, Boerne, Bandera area that day. I-10, Hwy 16 and all the FM roads are going to be an absolute CLUSTER of gigantic proportions. Getting my popcorn ready.

BREAKING:

A celestial event causes economic windfall for local businesses.

kb2001 said:

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Tramp96 said:

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LMCane said:

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question for the resident astrologists

so does this mean only the people within the lines can see majority of the eclipse?

or that the closer you get to the lines, you will see more of it as a percentage?

so does it make sense to go from DC to Bedford Springs PA because it is closer to the event line? or it really doeesn't matter?

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My house is directly on the left side purple line. Does that mean I get a full or just nearly full eclipse?

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Between the lines means you'll have full blackout. The center line indicates the maximum time of total blackout. If you're outside the lines, you'll see partial

ETA- cool simulator that shows you what you'll see from your location

https://eclipse2024.org/eclipse_cities/statemap.html

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That's a really cool site! Looks like we'll be getting about 1.5 minutes of totality. My first time ever at 50 years old.

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BREAKING:

A celestial event causes economic windfall for local businesses.

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BREAKING:

Abbott and Paxton sue local businesses for price gouging.

Yellerjacket said:

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kb2001 said:

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Tramp96 said:

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LMCane said:

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question for the resident astrologists

so does this mean only the people within the lines can see majority of the eclipse?

or that the closer you get to the lines, you will see more of it as a percentage?

so does it make sense to go from DC to Bedford Springs PA because it is closer to the event line? or it really doeesn't matter?

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My house is directly on the left side purple line. Does that mean I get a full or just nearly full eclipse?

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Between the lines means you'll have full blackout. The center line indicates the maximum time of total blackout. If you're outside the lines, you'll see partial

ETA- cool simulator that shows you what you'll see from your location

https://eclipse2024.org/eclipse_cities/statemap.html

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That's a really cool site! Looks like we'll be getting about 1.5 minutes of totality. My first time ever at 50 years old.

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Just make sure you get to an area of totality. 99% is nothing

aggiehawg said:

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Guess there is still a little Neanderthal left in a lot of people's DNA. Point to the sky and flip out.

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Ewwww, look at me, I'm SOOOOO evolved.

People that own property in central texas are renting out their places for thousands of dollars per night. People are paying absurd money to see this.

Y'all have fun. Guess I won't see it here in south texas on the bay.

YouBet said:

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People that own property in central texas are renting out their places for thousands of dollars per night. People are paying absurd money to see this.

Y'all have fun. Guess I won't see it here in south texas on the bay.

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I'm telling you. It would be worth a couple of hour drive to see it

YouBet said:

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People that own property in central texas are renting out their places for thousands of dollars per night. People are paying absurd money to see this.

Y'all have fun. Guess I won't see it here in south texas on the bay.

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People have to be smart about this. All you have to do is get a hotel in BCS and drive an hour to Waco the morning of the 8th. Turn around and come back, sock the money you saved in the bank.

aggiehawg said:

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Guess there is still a little Neanderthal left in a lot of people's DNA. Point to the sky and flip out.

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It is really something you probably never have seen before and you will never forget. You would have to see it too understand.

My house is well within totality. I'll be at the winery for our event.

I'm sorry, I just don't see it. It's a five minute event on a Monday afternoon. If someone does drive in from Houston they're not staying long.

It already goes over the metroplex so those folks aren't heading down here.

Talking about empty HEB shelves? Huh? How many groceries does someone need for five minutes on a Monday afternoon?

As for FBurg, the centerline is 10ish miles west of town. Seems that casual day travelers would want to get as close to that as possible. And it's pretty desolate out that way. LOTS of miles of roads along the path.

I could be dead wrong, but I just don't see it being totally nuts.

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In short, it is a very rare occurrence and no one alive has ever seen one in the state of Texas.

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Mar of 1970 (I was 15) we had a brief period of totality in Mission. Looked green like night vision goggles.

2040huck said:

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I was in Pigeon Forge for the last total eclipse. It was mayhem

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Was there this year over fall break before the Ags game against UT. Traffic was terrible and I don't want to think about what it would have been like around the eclipse.

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Tramp96 said:

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LMCane said:

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question for the resident astrologists

so does this mean only the people within the lines can see majority of the eclipse?

or that the closer you get to the lines, you will see more of it as a percentage?

so does it make sense to go from DC to Bedford Springs PA because it is closer to the event line? or it really doeesn't matter?

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My house is directly on the left side purple line. Does that mean I get a full or just nearly full eclipse?

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Between the lines means you'll have full blackout. The center line indicates the maximum time of total blackout. If you're outside the lines, you'll see partial

ETA- cool simulator that shows you what you'll see from your location

https://eclipse2024.org/eclipse_cities/statemap.html

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That's a really cool site! Looks like we'll be getting about 1.5 minutes of totality. My first time ever at 50 years old.

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Just make sure you get to an area of totality. 99% is nothing

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We are well within the 100% area. Just won't be for as long as the center.

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My house is well within totality. I'll be at the winery for our event.

I'm sorry, I just don't see it. It's a five minute event on a Monday afternoon. If someone does drive in from Houston they're not staying long.

It already goes over the metroplex so those folks aren't heading down here.

Talking about empty HEB shelves? Huh? How many groceries does someone need for five minutes on a Monday afternoon?

As for FBurg, the centerline is 10ish miles west of town. Seems that casual day travelers would want to get as close to that as possible. And it's pretty desolate out that way. LOTS of miles of roads along the path.

I could be dead wrong, but I just don't see it being totally nuts.

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In short, it is a very rare occurrence and no one alive has ever seen one in the state of Texas.

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Mar of 1970 (I was 15) we had a brief period of totality in Mission. Looked green like night vision goggles.

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My house is well within totality. I'll be at the winery for our event.

I'm sorry, I just don't see it. It's a five minute event on a Monday afternoon. If someone does drive in from Houston they're not staying long.

It already goes over the metroplex so those folks aren't heading down here.

Talking about empty HEB shelves? Huh? How many groceries does someone need for five minutes on a Monday afternoon?

As for FBurg, the centerline is 10ish miles west of town. Seems that casual day travelers would want to get as close to that as possible. And it's pretty desolate out that way. LOTS of miles of roads along the path.

I could be dead wrong, but I just don't see it being totally nuts.

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In short, it is a very rare occurrence and no one alive has ever seen one in the state of Texas.

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Mar of 1970 (I was 15) we had a brief period of totality in Mission. Looked green like night vision goggles.

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Youre misremembering. We haven't had totality in Texas since 1878.

The 1970 eclipse was not totality in Texas.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/map/1970-march-7

Found some traffic screenshots from the 2017 eclipse on Reddit. I'm sure some caused by people stopping as it passed over but still looks not fun.

HTownAg98 said:

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Imagine living in a town of 10,000 people or less, and having 100,000+ people descend on your town overnight, whiping out supplies, creating traffic, etc. they're declaring disaster areas to be proactive to better manage the influx.

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The City of Lipscomb, Texas used to balloon from about 40 to about 800 four times a year.

So they threw a party.

Imagine how bat-**** crazy it's going to be at the Buc-ees that are in the path?

TequilaMockingbird said:

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Imagine how bat-**** crazy it's going to be at the Buc-ees that are in the path?

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Why go anywhere else?

HTownAg98 said:

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Imagine living in a town of 10,000 people or less, and having 100,000+ people descend on your town overnight, whiping out supplies, creating traffic, etc. they're declaring disaster areas to be proactive to better manage the influx.

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Uhhh … m'little town of round top?

Y2K much?

It's more than that.

Eclipse's cause some pretty serious gravitational anamolies and when they go right over major fault lines like the New Madrid fault line, (which this one does) they can cause some issues.

The last time we had this eclipse pattern was in 1804 and 1811. Three months after this eclipse we had the most powerful earthquakes in US history along this same New Madrid fault. Which rang church bells in Boston. There were three massive earthquakes. an 8.1 followed by an 7.8 and then a monster 8.8. The Mississippi river ran backwards for 2 two days!

Fortunately at that time there was little human development in area - (Still an entire tribe of Indians, 'disappeared') Now, if any such earthquakes occurred at this point in time it would be the greatest 'natural' disaster in US history. LOL

Here are a few links to both the gravitational effects of this sort of eclipse and a few historical facts about the last time we had this sort of eclipse pattern come through. Now add this event is to be one of the most watched events in US history as this eclipse goes within a 2 hour drive of large cities, there are some estimated 25 million people moving to see this event.

If I was an enemy of this nation and had placed 'sleeper cells' in the US to be activated to cause maximum trouble, April 8th would be a pretty good day to launch something, with millions in transit and away from home. Yea?

https://abcnews4.com/features/2017-solar-eclipse/eclipse-faq-what-gravitational-effects-happen-during-a-total-solar-eclipse


https://mycharisma.com/culture/14-must-know-facts-about-the-great-american-eclipse-of-2024/

cecil77 said:

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My house is well within totality. I'll be at the winery for our event.

I'm sorry, I just don't see it. It's a five minute event on a Monday afternoon. If someone does drive in from Houston they're not staying long.

It already goes over the metroplex so those folks aren't heading down here.

Talking about empty HEB shelves? Huh? How many groceries does someone need for five minutes on a Monday afternoon?

As for FBurg, the centerline is 10ish miles west of town. Seems that casual day travelers would want to get as close to that as possible. And it's pretty desolate out that way. LOTS of miles of roads along the path.

I could be dead wrong, but I just don't see it being totally nuts.

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It will be nuts. It's not just a five minute event on a Monday afternoon. People are making a whole day out of it. And the partial phase of the eclipse will be about 2.5 hours. the 4 minutes in the middle is just the best part.

FBurg will be insane, probably the most popular viewing spot in Texas.

We'll see...

Total solar eclipse prepping is standard. Happens in every country and local community in the path of totality, as well as in communities near the path en route. Some countries freak out and fear monger to prevent people from traveling (Australia '23). The thought that authorities are just now getting around to it is a little discouraging considering how many people are traveling to Texas for the event.

It has been stated in this thread but can't be emphasized enough: There is no such thing as a percentage of totality. 99% partial WILL NOT experience the phenomena that occur during totality. It will just be a partial! Get in the path.

Great resource that allows you to click any location via Google Maps and shows the contact times and duration: http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/solar_eclipses/TSE_2024_GoogleMapFull.html

Clear Skies!

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I see a lot of stupid people.

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It's not that they are stupid, it's that they are rationally ignorant while facing a mass influx. We total eclipse chasers (friendliest folks on the planet) see this every time and it's up to us to help educate the public.

If you care to listen to a podcast interview with the American Astronomical Society's Solar Eclipse Task Force head (Rick Fienberg), search Totality Talks (Episode 9). He's a Rice grad (physics), Harvard masters, PhD (Astronomy). Great resources here @ AAS eclipse 2024 page: https://eclipse.aas.org/eclipse-america-2024

I'm driving 1,200 miles one way to see it. Praying it'll be clear.