Probably?

barbacoa taco said:

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It's a dumb and immature thing to say. He has no right to tell people they hate their religion.

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I agree, it is dumb.

But of course he has the right. He is allowed to say what he observes. And if he observes that their voting patterns are in direct contradiction to their faith, he can make that claim.

But just because you can, doesn't mean you should...and he's incapable of filtering his comments.

I think at this point, he's 'flooded the zone'. He says so many controversial things, that it doesnt matter anymore. If you were going to be offended by him, by this point, you are.

barbacoa taco said:

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It's a dumb and immature thing to say. He has no right to tell people they hate their religion.

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he certainly does have the right to

If you want him to lose the election, this is the sort of behavior you would think you'd want to encourage.

Then again, it's Trump. Nothing he says, at all, matters in the slightest to anyone. It's all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Nice talking point.

I meant it in an informal sense and not a legal sense. I know he has the legal right to say stupid things.

He loves to be divisive and say stupid and divisive things, and this is no exception

barbacoa taco said:

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Now THAT is an antisemitic thing to say. It's also really stupid and won't win Jewish voters over.

ETA: it was also stupid for Biden to say what he said about black people in 2020

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Who cares if it's stupid? Trump will lose what, 6 of the 11 Jews that were going to vote for him this November?

AgGrad99 said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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It's a dumb and immature thing to say. He has no right to tell people they hate their religion.

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I agree, it is dumb.

But of course he has the right. He is allowed to say what he observes. And if he observes that their voting patterns are in direct contradiction to their faith, he can make that claim.

But just because you can, doesn't mean you should...and he's incapable of filtering his comments.

I think at this point, he's 'flooded the zone'. He says so many things that it doesnt matter anymore. If you were going to be offended by him, by this point, you are.

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There's a difference in pointing out a contradiction, and then saying you hate your religion. I mean, it's so colossally stupid to say something like that. How can anyone defend those statements? Is this where we interpret what is he meant like the Pope'?

Huge difference between those who identify as Jewish from a cultural perspective versus those who identify as Jewish from a religious perspective. That distinction is certainly something to consider in his commentary (admittedly I haven't listened to it)

Very similar to many Democrat's "I'm devoutly Catholic" but "let's kill all the babies" behavior.

Bird Poo said:

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How can anyone defend those statements?

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I don't see anyone defending those statements, only his right to utter them.

For once, I'll agree with Old Army Metal. I don't care what the dude says. I'm interested in what he does policy-wise. When it comes to policy, he's a far preferable choice than Biden. And this is from someone who voted for DeSantis in the primary as well.

barbacoa taco said:

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I meant it in an informal sense and not a legal sense. I know he has the legal right to say stupid things.

He loves to be divisive and say stupid and divisive things, and this is no exception

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Unfortunately both of our selection for President are divisive, our current President is called the great "uniter" and he couldn't be further from that moniker.

Slicer97 said:

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Bird Poo said:

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How can anyone defend those statements?

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I don't see anyone defending those statements, only his right to utter them.

For once, I'll agree with Old Army Metal. I don't care what the dude says. I'm interested in what he does policy-wise. When it comes to policy, he's a far preferable choice than Biden. And this is from someone who voted for DeSantis in the primary as well.

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Fair enough. No one is saying he doesn't have a right to say dumb things. But if he's hoping to win over new voters, good luck with that.

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There's a difference in pointing out a contradiction, and then saying you hate your religion. I mean, it's so colossally stupid to say something like that. How can anyone defend those statements? Is this where we interpret what is he meant like the Pope'?

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Re-read what I said.

I didnt defend him....at all.

AgGrad99 said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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It's a dumb and immature thing to say. He has no right to tell people they hate their religion.

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I agree, it is dumb.

But of course he has the right. He is allowed to say what he observes. And if he observes that their voting patterns are in direct contradiction to their faith, he can make that claim.

But just because you can, doesn't mean you should...and he's incapable of filtering his comments.

I think at this point, he's 'flooded the zone'. He says so many controversial things, that it doesnt matter anymore. If you were going to be offended by him, by this point, you are.

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Where in the Torah is this supposed contradiction based?

Does this observation apply to any Jew that desires a ceasefire, whether they vote Democrat or not?

Why are you asking me? Ask Trump.

He is right that there is an element of self loathing amongst many progressive Jews as the Jewish faith clearly calls for a return to the holy land and restoration there. They don't like that this puts them in conflict with the oppressor narrative that makes them an oppressor. He wasn't tactful at all about how he put it, and some thing that are obvious don't necessarily need to be pointed out.

Old Army Metal said:

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Not sure how that's going to play.

Biden was pilloried here, probably correctly, for saying something along those lines but for black people.

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The difference of course, being, obvious to anyone that isn't a complete moron.

Jack Boyette said:

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Old Army Metal said:

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Not sure how that's going to play.

Biden was pilloried here, probably correctly, for saying something along those lines but for black people.

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The difference of course, being, obvious to anyone that isn't a complete moron.

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Harsh.

yall are hilarious Jews werent voting for him anyway more TDS