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Ok, so I misspoke about nukes. They irrelevant as stated above. We could have a sub in the sea next to Russia now and probably do.
Doesn't matter. It is aggressive action toward russia to suggest and work towards Ukraine joining nato. That was stupid if we weren't looking for a fight. Like
I said before, smart people in Washington know this and they did it anyways, meaning they wanted this.
**** them for that.
So you don't think Ukraine has any reason to join a defensive pact? None whatsoever?
I can't believe this question.
Putin wanted NATO to stay out of Ukraine and was going to sign a peace treaty if they did. Ukraine says no, we want NATO and their "defensive pact".
The results of that have been a Russian invasion and hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians. How is that "defensive pact" working so far?
Zelenski may not care about this because he is a corrupt puppet of Biden and Boris Johnson, but the people of Ukraine would go back and sign that treaty in a second if they could.
Yes, Putin is horrible, and the invasion is horrible, but it could have and should have been avoided. And it could be ended, but the warmongers of the west don't want that. They're making too much money.
And, as always, it's the masses that are suffering and being killed in a war they probably don't understand and never wanted.
Putin wanted Ukraine to be a part of Russia. How does Ukraine avoid that without war?
What makes Ukraine worth our investment given how corrupt it is? Why should we care more than its citizens?
You don't have to. And it's valid to not care and not want to spend your tax dollars assisting.
But that doesn't mean people have to then justify Russias invasion and/or support the murder and rape of the Ukrainian people.
What is the end result of the war and how will the US benefit from it?
Hopefully the end results is Ukraine exists and Russia remains significantly weakened. A weakened Russia is good for the US. They do not value western ideals.
What western ideas? Tans-ing kids? Rainbow flags over every military base? Materialism? Satan statues in state houses?
You know who hates the west? The actual commies that have been imbedded in our own government for the last 100 years.
Yes, western ideals are only reduced down to LGBT issues. Brilliant insight.
A non answer then.
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You glossed over a couple of our core vales from my list it seems. And Id bet a large sum of money there are more anti western subversives in our own government than in moscow. The same people that ruined russia have been in the US for a long time.