I read the first ten, or so, posts on this and assumed (as usual, I was wrong) it would last a couple of pages, since journalists have the freedom to do this all the time.

I'm shocked anyone would have any issue with a genuine journalist, even if it was one I viscerally hate, interviewing anyone, anytime, except maybe during a declared war.

This was, and is, what the term "free press" means, at least to me. I'm also shocked it's lasted this long.

My mistake. I read your posts again.

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I read the first ten, or so, posts on this and assumed (as usual, I was wrong) it would last a couple of pages, since journalists have the freedom to do this all the time.

I'm shocked anyone would have any issue with a genuine journalist, even if it was one I viscerally hate, interviewing anyone, anytime, except maybe during a declared war.

This was, and is, what the term "free press" means, at least to me. I'm also shocked it's lasted this long.

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In a vacuum there's nothing problematic about it. Tucker is just under heavy scrutiny because he's been pretty vocally pro-Russia, and given the current status of geopolitics it's a bad look.

But fine, let's wait until the interview gets released. But I think we all know what to expect here.

Hillary said russia reset. Obama said russia concern was old thinking. Putin stayed in Texas as a guest of Bush.

But then Hlllary said they're enemy #1. And ever since, rudderless Americans adjust their minds and spout her talking points.

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Hillary said russia reset. Obama said russia concern was old thinking. Putin stayed in Texas as a guest of Bush.

But then Hlllary said they're enemy #1. And ever since, rudderless Americans adjust their minds and spout her talking points.

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It's like something may have happened in 2014...I wonder what?

What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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the telegraphing began beforehand. maybe you were working real hard and didn't notice.
One thing has been consistent for the last 30 years. Russia poses no threat to me and my family.
China on the other hand is refining a social credit system where maybe you will one day achieve good-boy status. And maybe they will buy you a house.

Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

Mike Hancho said:

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NicosMachine said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Why are you people so afraid of Tucker Carlson? Man up and see what comes out of this. I've never seen such childish fear.

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1. They don't know how to think for themselves; these people cannot think rationally and skeptically in order to evaluate the quality of a [thing] on their own
2. It's easier to rely on sound bits and distilled information from your chosen source of info
3. Combined with above this leads to confirmation bias
4. They think it's fun to antagonize those they disagree with (it is, btw)
5. They don't really care because; see #4

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Nobody is afraid of Tucker,

We just know this is going to be a softball interview and Tucker will now be a propaganda piece for putin because MAGA believe everything that comes out of his mouth

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Most of these Putin crybabies can be identified by a single litmus test - where do you stand on LGBTQ issues. If they believe LGBTQ should be normalized, they don't think Putin should have a platform because he knows LGBTQ is unnatural and abnormal. Just an observation.

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So you like putin because hes anti-gay?

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I just made the observation that a lot of anti-Putin sentiment is directly traceable to his unwillingness to bend to LGBTQ propaganda. It is a religion to many and they see any opposition as an affront to "religious liberty".

geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Hillary said russia reset. Obama said russia concern was old thinking. Putin stayed in Texas as a guest of Bush.

But then Hlllary said they're enemy #1. And ever since, rudderless Americans adjust their minds and spout her talking points.

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Change is inevitable, but those things did happen and it was not inevitable that Russia would go to war with Ukraine.

No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

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It is now. It wasn't when Putin first invaded Ukraine.

And, again, what justifies the death and destruction Putin was inflicted onto the people of Ukraine by his invasion?

No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

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It is now. It wasn't when Putin first invaded Ukraine.

And, again, what justifies the death and destruction Putin was inflicted onto the people of Ukraine by his invasion?

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You skipped over the why a brutal dictator invaded Ukraine. It is becoming very apparent to all but the useful idiots that there were actions by our leaders to provoke Russia.

NicosMachine said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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NicosMachine said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Why are you people so afraid of Tucker Carlson? Man up and see what comes out of this. I've never seen such childish fear.

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1. They don't know how to think for themselves; these people cannot think rationally and skeptically in order to evaluate the quality of a [thing] on their own
2. It's easier to rely on sound bits and distilled information from your chosen source of info
3. Combined with above this leads to confirmation bias
4. They think it's fun to antagonize those they disagree with (it is, btw)
5. They don't really care because; see #4

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Nobody is afraid of Tucker,

We just know this is going to be a softball interview and Tucker will now be a propaganda piece for putin because MAGA believe everything that comes out of his mouth

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Most of these Putin crybabies can be identified by a single litmus test - where do you stand on LGBTQ issues. If they believe LGBTQ should be normalized, they don't think Putin should have a platform because he knows LGBTQ is unnatural and abnormal. Just an observation.

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So you like putin because hes anti-gay?

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I just made the observation that a lot of anti-Putin sentiment is directly traceable to his unwillingness to bend to LGBTQ propaganda. It is a religion to many and they see any opposition as an affront to "religious liberty".

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I loath Putin because he represents the worst parts of both Russian culture and vestages of the post Soviet mindset. Everything I hate about Putin is what the left eventually wants for us. An intrusive state owned media which considers objectivity to be a problem, not an ideal. Strict limits on personal gun ownership with deference to the state for personal safety. Very little respect or commitment to personal private property rights. Sham elections. Not just demonization of political opponents, but outright murdering them. An engrained support of corruption. In Russian culture corruption isn't seen as a negative. It's simply how things get done and a part of the system. Putin loathes anglo saxon history and common law derived from it. He does not share the values of our founders and their quest for liberty. It is incongruent with him and Russian culture.

Putin isn't an adversary of American liberalism. He is what they will eventually evolve to be.

geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

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It is now. It wasn't when Putin first invaded Ukraine.

And, again, what justifies the death and destruction Putin was inflicted onto the people of Ukraine by his invasion?

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You skipped over the why a brutal dictator invaded Ukraine. It is becoming very apparent to all but the useful idiots that there were actions by our leaders to provoke Russia.

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He invaded because he wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia. It's no more complicated than that.

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Hillary said russia reset. Obama said russia concern was old thinking. Putin stayed in Texas as a guest of Bush.

But then Hlllary said they're enemy #1. And ever since, rudderless Americans adjust their minds and spout her talking points.

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Change is inevitable, but those things did happen and it was not inevitable that Russia would go to war with Ukraine.

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I see the invasion in a larger context. It was made inevitable. And I see the things being done in Ukraine with the support of "globalists," as not being helpful or representative of the will of America. The war imo is a construct, and as a result many billions of American dollars are leaving the country without any accounting.
Also, we take our eye off the effective enemy, China.
saying "change happens" and "coincidences happen" are just just thought-stoppers.

Amen.

geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

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It is now. It wasn't when Putin first invaded Ukraine.

And, again, what justifies the death and destruction Putin was inflicted onto the people of Ukraine by his invasion?

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You skipped over the why a brutal dictator invaded Ukraine. It is becoming very apparent to all but the useful idiots that there were actions by our leaders to provoke Russia.

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And what were the actions that justify what he is doing

Reportedly, partial transcript is HERE

No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

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It is now. It wasn't when Putin first invaded Ukraine.

And, again, what justifies the death and destruction Putin was inflicted onto the people of Ukraine by his invasion?

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You skipped over the why a brutal dictator invaded Ukraine. It is becoming very apparent to all but the useful idiots that there were actions by our leaders to provoke Russia.

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And what were the actions that justify what he is doing

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He didn't want Ukraine to join NATO and be on Russias border. So he was left with no choice but to absorb Ukraine and enlarge Russia's border with…




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geoag58 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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geoag58 said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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What happened in 2022 that is causing this backlash. Are you being purposely obtuse

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The culmination of the left and rino's efforts to provoke a Russian dictator to action in Ukraine.

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How did the US provoke Putin to invade another country?

If we provoked Putin, why didn't he invade us or Europe instead of Ukraine?

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This is a proxy war.

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It is now. It wasn't when Putin first invaded Ukraine.

And, again, what justifies the death and destruction Putin was inflicted onto the people of Ukraine by his invasion?

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You skipped over the why a brutal dictator invaded Ukraine. It is becoming very apparent to all but the useful idiots that there were actions by our leaders to provoke Russia.

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Because he's been trying to get Ukraine back to being part of Russia for decades. He invaded Crimea in 2014. He'd been funding a separatist proxy war in the east for years before that.

Blaming Nazis and biolabs and NATO "expansion" (which is the "actions" you're referring to) is a load of horse crap propaganda. There's a reason why NATO exists - it's a defensive alliance designed to prevent Russian aggression. Russia has been trying to get back with Ukraine since they left and Ukraine doesn't want that - hence the desire to join that alliance.

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Mike Hancho said:

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NicosMachine said:

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Mike Hancho said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Why are you people so afraid of Tucker Carlson? Man up and see what comes out of this. I've never seen such childish fear.

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1. They don't know how to think for themselves; these people cannot think rationally and skeptically in order to evaluate the quality of a [thing] on their own
2. It's easier to rely on sound bits and distilled information from your chosen source of info
3. Combined with above this leads to confirmation bias
4. They think it's fun to antagonize those they disagree with (it is, btw)
5. They don't really care because; see #4

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Nobody is afraid of Tucker,

We just know this is going to be a softball interview and Tucker will now be a propaganda piece for putin because MAGA believe everything that comes out of his mouth

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Most of these Putin crybabies can be identified by a single litmus test - where do you stand on LGBTQ issues. If they believe LGBTQ should be normalized, they don't think Putin should have a platform because he knows LGBTQ is unnatural and abnormal. Just an observation.

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So you like putin because hes anti-gay?

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I just made the observation that a lot of anti-Putin sentiment is directly traceable to his unwillingness to bend to LGBTQ propaganda. It is a religion to many and they see any opposition as an affront to "religious liberty".

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I loath Putin because he represents the worst parts of both Russian culture and vestages of the post Soviet mindset. Everything I hate about Putin is what the left eventually wants for us. An intrusive state owned media which considers objectivity to be a problem, not an ideal. Strict limits on personal gun ownership with deference to the state for personal safety. Very little respect or commitment to personal private property rights. Sham elections. Not just demonization of political opponents, but outright murdering them. An engrained support of corruption. In Russian culture corruption isn't seen as a negative. It's simply how things get done and a part of the system. Putin loathes anglo saxon history and common law derived from it. He does not share the values of our founders and their quest for liberty. It is incongruent with him and Russian culture.

Putin isn't an adversary of American liberalism. He is what they will eventually evolve to be.

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Your points are all well-taken. That said, Russia has, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, become more "conservative" both socially and economically. As American diplomat George Keenan said in the late 1990s, "these aren't the Soviets. These aren't the communists. These are the heroes who overthrew them. Why are we picking a fight with them?" The people who are expanding NATO will keep expanding it and expanding it, and then there will be a Russian reaction, and then when theirs the Russian reaction, they are going to say, see, that's proof that we have to keep on expanding it."

We have a lot more in common with Russia than people want to admit. While there are certainly vestiges of the old Communist mindset, they have been moving "right" for years while the U.S. has been moving left. We now restrict information. We try to prevent our citizens from hearing "news". We accumulate more debt as share of GDP by a large margin. We've surrendered on social issues that Russia stands firm against.

I think I figured out why all the autistic screeching.

He sounds way more rational and reasonable than your average progressive leftists.

I don't believe his reasons for invading Ukraine, but his take on transgender malarkey, climate change, our border issues, Joe Biden (obviously) not really being in charge.

He's supposed to be some awful dictator, but i would much rather talk to him than have a conversation with your average leftists.

If I had to pick an enemy of the US who is trying to actively destroy the country on purpose -- based solely on what Dem politicians and supporters say and do and the interview with Putin said, it would be the leftists 100 times out of 100.

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He sounds way more rational and reasonable than your average progressive leftists,

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This isn't a high bar. He could've claimed the moon is made of cheese and your statemeny would still be accurate.

Barbara Walters and Mike Wallace were celebrated heros for interviewing worse.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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He sounds way more rational and reasonable than your average progressive leftists,

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This isn't a high bar. He could've claimed the moon is made of cheese and your statemeny would still be accurate.

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LOL, yes, exactly.

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Hillary said russia reset. Obama said russia concern was old thinking. Putin stayed in Texas as a guest of Bush.

But then Hlllary said they're enemy #1. And ever since, rudderless Americans adjust their minds and spout her talking points.

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Change is inevitable, but those things did happen and it was not inevitable that Russia would go to war with Ukraine.

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I see the invasion in a larger context. It was made inevitable. And I see the things being done in Ukraine with the support of "globalists," as not being helpful or representative of the will of America. The war imo is a construct, and as a result many billions of American dollars are leaving the country without any accounting.
Also, we take our eye off the effective enemy, China.
saying "change happens" and "coincidences happen" are just just thought-stoppers.

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The dollars were created and are being given to the arms manufacturers and then some makes it back to the politicians who ordered the printing. The American citizen is paying for it through inflation and additions to our debt. And the poor Ukraine conscript and Russian grunt are paying with their lives. It not all bad though our weaponry is being upgraded, but so is the Russians.

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The Russians will use accurate and inaccurate information in whatever ways they need to advance Russian interests. They want nothing good for any of us, left or right.

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Sounds alot like America.

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Similar but not comparable. We don't know how good we have it here.

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This can't be emphasized enough in our current climate. People don't seem to want to discuss the good things they have in their lives, just how horrible everything is.

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People see how good we have it here, but they get angry when they see progressives implementing things that will make our way of life harder. It's human nature to get angry when you see a group of people making things worse.

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Completely agree. However if the tendency is to be so obsessive about the bad, then its becomes harder and harder to see the good. Just saying its healthy to make sure we don't get enveloped by the 'spiraling vortex of doom' to the detriment of whats good in our lives.

Russia isn't moving right. They are simply advocating some things the right likes, while at the same time advancing leftist ideals on others.

They are not our friend. They do not like you or the liberal up the street. Never forget that. It's not like communism fell and who they are vanished. Much of communisms issues existed because it was an extension of Russian culture.

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Russia isn't moving right. They are simply advocating some things the right likes, while at the same time advancing leftist ideals on others.

They are not our friend. They do not like you or the liberal up the street. Never forget that. It's not like communism fell and who they are vanished. Much of communisms issues existed because it was an extension of Russian culture.

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I think China is a bigger threat, and that many Russians would like me and be my friend.
But not Chinese communists.

You keep expressing some kind of authoritative expertise. Constant repetition. It's getting old.

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Russia isn't moving right. They are simply advocating some things the right likes, while at the same time advancing leftist ideals on others.

They are not our friend. They do not like you or the liberal up the street. Never forget that. It's not like communism fell and who they are vanished. Much of communisms issues existed because it was an extension of Russian culture.

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"Russian culture", as you put it, is dealing with important issues in a more rational and reasonable manner than our leaders, from their borders to LGBTQ propaganda, to trans issues, and even monetary issues. If you can't see how far they've come, and how far we've fallen, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, then there is nothing really left to say. You seem to believe that "being Russian" is some sort of moral defect that makes an alliance impossible. I believe we have more in common with modern Russia than we do with many other countries with which we form alliances.

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Russia isn't moving right. They are simply advocating some things the right likes, while at the same time advancing leftist ideals on others.

They are not our friend. They do not like you or the liberal up the street. Never forget that. It's not like communism fell and who they are vanished. Much of communisms issues existed because it was an extension of Russian culture.

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I think China is a bigger threat, and that many Russians would like me and be my friend.
But not Chinese communists.

You keep expressing some kind of authoritative expertise. Constant repetition. It's getting old.

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I'm sure there are plenty of individuals Russian citizens who would be friends with an LGBTQXYZ liberal. That doesn't mean the government as a whole is all of a sudden this bastion of goodness and light for all.

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But the truth is, Russia wants to hurt American interests all around the world.

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As do we they. WE started this war in Ukraine by giving Putin and Russia no choice but to defend themselves. We made agreements with Russia that NATO would not expand Eastward in Europe, and broke those agreements...

• Wrong
• Fact-checking claims that NATO, US broke agreement against alliance expanding eastward
• Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says "No"

We've basically parked right on their doorstep...Russia honored the agreement and let territories like Ukraine, Crimea, etc become their own sovereign countries..

How would you feel if Russia and China parked Nukes in Mexico that could light up all of Texas in mere seconds with no warning?

I'm not saying Putin is a good human being, but we poked the bear, then we kept poking the bear because the bear did not react the first couple of times, and now we cry foul because the bear has finally reacted...To act like we did not play any role is just plain BS...It's like people back in the day acting shocked that the Native Americans finally United and kicked Custer's butt after our government broke so many treaties..

Our Presidents GW Bush, Obama, and now Biden just plain sucked and should have stayed away from Ukraine, and the rest of those formerly Soviet Union aligned territories.

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You need to do more research because you are parroting misinformation.

ETA: I was late to respond, already brought up that Putin lies about NATO's agreement and even Gorbechev proved Putin a liar.

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I'm sure there are plenty of individuals Russian citizens who would be friends with an LGBTQXYZ liberal. That doesn't mean the government as a whole is all of a sudden this bastion of goodness and light for all.

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I don't blame those liberals for being scared of Russia. But they shouldn't be, because Russia is so far away and they don't have the economic and technical reach and modus operandi, that communist China has.
Communist China wants you gay and confused, fully surveilled, wallowing in cognitive dissonance. IMO
They don't love you IMO