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I may be talking out of my ass but don't most of our asylum laws require people to seek asylum in the closest neighboring country that shares their culture and language? The influx of Venezuelans here that pass over Central American countries and Mexico refutes that.

What the hell am I saying? We all know Dems pick and choose what laws to enforce and ignore.

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We are more than likely getting more people from other countries than Mexico at this point. Mexico is helping shuffle these illegals through their country to get to America. Hence, Texas can do the same to other US states.

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correct, i doubt he volume of Mexican illegal immigration has grown much. it's Central Americans, South Americans, and others from around the world using Mexico as the entryway.

Mexico does not have the resources to stop it, so it behooves them to help move them through the country as quickly as possible.

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I think there are right-leaning folks in cities and suburbs who will blame Abbott and conservatives more broadly for the particular situation in their neighborhoods vs Biden for the national crisis. And I think that makes them less likely to vote for the GOP across the board. Even very liberal cities are 70/30 and it's better when those 30 show up. Seems more emotive than strategic to me.

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If you have an inability to understand the root causes of many of the problems we have today, and lack the critical thinking to discern why Abbott is doing what he is doing, you're not really conservative, and were not going to vote conservative.

A simple NIMBY approach to immigration is what has feuled the sanctuary city approach as well as the myopic thinking that flooding the border with illegals can someday shift the county blue. It is that failure to see the bigger picture that drives leftist thinking in the first place.

HTH.

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The fact that we act like we're winning because we're shipping invaders all over the rest of the country just shows how hopeless it all is. "Let's take the trash on our front seat and toss it over our shoulder into the back seat. Yay! We cleaned the car!"

Ugh..

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This is wholly irrelevant. I mean completely. It's extremely clear Texas can't win the border fight on its own, hell the federal government is suing Texas for trying to restrict illegal crossings. Meanwhile until the busses started running there were huge parts of this country that thought illegals deserved to be here and to receive services and support. Why? Because it wasn't coming from their tax dollars or impacting their lives in any way. Now it is coming from their tax dollars and creating problems in their neighborhoods and over time that is going to change their expectations from their elected officials. When the mayor of NYC is publicly calling for stronger border control you know it's having an impact and that's major progress. All these blue cities complaining about strain on resources means they're feeling the pain of their own policies. Keeping up the flow is how you get them from there to "something has to change". It'll happen at some point.

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Alright, well, I'm of the strong opinion that once these people are in the country there's no getting them out. Shuffling them around is not a solution, it's for nothing but for a laugh. The idea that liberals will "learn a lesson from this if they see it themselves" is silly to me. It's like hoping people in Chicago will finally learn not to vote Democrat. Never gonna happen. I guess we'll see what happens but I'm confident we'll gain nothing meaningful from this.

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Then let's approach it from another angle. If border states do NOT "shuffle" the illegals around, as you suggest, what will be the result? Texas becomes an unliveable arena of chaos. People who live here have to navigate tents on the streets, people urinating at their doorstep asking for handouts, and if you need medical attention, the ER's are completely full of non-english speaking people who have brought wonderful old/new experiences like malaria, tuberculosis, hepatitis, etc. The sanctuary cities in Blue states continue to virtue signal about how compassionate they are while ignoring what is happening on the ground in border states. Oh, and Texas turns blue in the very near future, cementing Democrat rule for generations.

In other words, Good Abbott.

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Muy said:

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I may be talking out of my ass but don't most of our asylum laws require people to seek asylum in the closest neighboring country that shares their culture and language? The influx of Venezuelans here that pass over Central American countries and Mexico refutes that.

What the hell am I saying? We all know Dems pick and choose what laws to enforce and ignore.

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We are more than likely getting more people from other countries than Mexico at this point. Mexico is helping shuffle these illegals through their country to get to America. Hence, Texas can do the same to other US states.

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correct, i doubt he volume of Mexican illegal immigration has grown much. it's Central Americans, South Americans, and others from around the world using Mexico as the entryway.

Mexico does not have the resources to stop it, so it behooves them to help move them through the country as quickly as possible.

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This is a great message as well...

When Obrador stops allowing people to pass through Mexico to get to Texas, Texas will stop passing those same migrants through to the rest of the country.

boom. nailed it.

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I may be talking out of my ass but don't most of our asylum laws require people to seek asylum in the closest neighboring country that shares their culture and language?

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Yes. The federal government is knowingly violating our laws by opening the gates wide.

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Mexico does not have the resources to stop it, so it behooves them to help move them through the country as quickly as possible.

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This is not a matter of a lack of resources.

Remember when Blinken and Mayorkas went to Mexico to meet with the President last month? They weren't going to ask for help cutting off the illegals. You can be sure they were planning the next step after they are forced to change policy due to court decisions.

They're not going to slow the invasion, they'll just change how they facilitate it.

Not one illegal we catch should stay in Texas ever again.

They can choose Denver, NYC, Chicago, DC, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, or LA.

All lovely destinations.

Whichever liberal Mayor says they are at the breaking point they earn the next shipments for a month

Wait til the federal government starts sending (more) billions to these cities. This ain't over.

Or those blue cities may start giving the travelers more money to get on a bus back to Texas (Texas has already given them money to get on a bus the first time). This may turn into a bidding war.

Cobra39

My understanding is that Denver has been hosting thousands of migrants in their homeless shelters, which are full and have a limit on how long people can stay there.
They are about to start having huge waves of these immigrants hitting their limit where they must leave the shelters and have no other option than the street. And like once that flow hits, there will be a steady flow of folks hitting their limits on a daily/weekly basis.

It's a mess and about to get a lot worse.

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My understanding is that Denver has been hosting thousands of migrants in their homeless shelters, which are full and have a limit on how long people can stay there.
They are about to start having huge waves of these immigrants hitting their limit where they must leave the shelters and have no other option than the street. And like once that flow hits, there will be a steady flow of folks hitting their limits on a daily/weekly basis.

It's a mess and about to get a lot worse.

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They need about 100k more, next month can be split in thirds, Denver, Evergreen, Aspen.

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My understanding is that Denver has been hosting thousands of migrants in their homeless shelters, which are full and have a limit on how long people can stay there.
They are about to start having huge waves of these immigrants hitting their limit where they must leave the shelters and have no other option than the street. And like once that flow hits, there will be a steady flow of folks hitting their limits on a daily/weekly basis.

It's a mess and about to get a lot worse.

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