Female Air Traffic Controller who "googled" how to land argues with pilot

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annie88
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Yikes.

Scary.

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CDUB98
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I'd put $50 bucks on it being a DEI hire.
usmcbrooks
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LOL, they let a woman be an ATC?
Tea Party
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DEI strikes again.

Leftism ruins everything.
HumpitPuryear
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I'm picturing someone with some shade of neon hair, gaudy hello kitty tattoos and face piercings when I listen to that. Pilots really are cool cucumbers though.
torrid
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HumpitPuryear said:

I'm picturing someone with some shade of neon hair, gaudy hello kitty tattoos and face piercings when I listen to that. Pilots really are cool cucumbers though.
I think I got lap dance from her last week.
GAC06
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"Terrifying"? LOL.
Logos Stick
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Right on time.
HarleySpoon
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Have a commercial pilot friend that flies out of that airport fairly often. Sent this to him and he responded with a picture of her in the tower there.

- about 55
- grey hair
- pretty large

Looks like a church choir member.

ETA: 14 minutes after OP. Texags knows things.
TRADUCTOR
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Cat food costs 25% more now, liberals just being fussy.
Deputy Travis Junior
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What an idiot.

ChatGPT would give much better results for this sort of query.
torrid
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HarleySpoon said:

Have a commercial pilot friend that flies out of that airport fairly often. Sent this to him and he responded with a picture of her in the tower there.

- about 55
- grey hair
- pretty large

Looks like a church choir member.

ETA: 14 minutes after OP. Texags knows things.
Yep, that was her.
doubledog
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Why keep her employed? They could just replace her with BARD or ChatAPI..
CDUB98
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doubledog said:

Why keep her employed? They could just replace her with BARD or ChatAPI..
Union jobs never go away no matter how irrelevant.
FinanceWildcat
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Good old DTO. She's notorious for being argumentative, condescending, harsh for no reason, and unwilling to help those who aren't 110% familiar with her airport and all of the nuances like obscure waypoints (argyle water tower, Peter built factory, 380 and the railroad tracks).

There's an entire Instagram page dedicated to that tower, but it's mainly her:

https://www.instagram.com/use_your_callsign?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
SouthTex99
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Ellis Wyatt
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SouthTex99 said:

Curious if there's an aviation Aggie here who can tell us who is correct here? Doesn't sound like the pilot earned the lecture he received from ATC.
Apparently you're correct.

BigBrother
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SouthTex99 said:

Curious if there's an aviation Aggie here who can tell us who is correct here? Doesn't sound like the pilot earned the lecture he received from ATC.
I'm just small potatoes, but if I understand the situation correctly, pilot is probably doing pattern work and wants to simulate an unpowered landing for practice. He is requesting/letting her know his approach (final) will be short.

It seems she has no idea what that means, and google tells her that he is supposed to do a turn (base) where the runway numbers are. That's quite aggressive with or without engines if you're at pattern height. You'd have to get down extremely fast to turn base and then final and not overshoot the runway.

The idea that she says she expects him to land midfield is disturbing IMO. While that's doable, why would she assume he wants that?

More experienced pilots please correct if I'm wrong.
CDUB98
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FinanceWildcat said:

Good old DTO. She's notorious for being argumentative, condescending, harsh for no reason, and unwilling to help those who aren't 110% familiar with her airport and all of the nuances like obscure waypoints (argyle water tower, Peter built factory, 380 and the railroad tracks).

There's an entire Instagram page dedicated to that tower, but it's mainly her:

https://www.instagram.com/use_your_callsign?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Wow, you know it's bad if it goes to this level.

Yet, incompetency stays in place...for some reason.
stetson
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I used to do these and trained students but at uncontrolled airports. Cut the power at the numbers on downwind, turn and announce "close left base runway XX", then turn again and announce "short final runway XX". I have never flown into DTO and do not know how busy it gets, however flying these approaches at a controlled airport is probably going to be different because she is controlling other aircraft and, if he is doing something non-standard, she needs to know so she can space aircraft appropriately if there is more than light traffic. Otherwise, I think she is being a Karen.
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torrid
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If she "Googled it" from her console, does that mean the ATC computers are wired directly to the internet?
annie88
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CDUB98 said:

I'd put $50 bucks on it being a DEI hire.
I'd put $50 bucks on your $50 bucks that you're right.
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annie88
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GAC06 said:

"Terrifying"? LOL.
Um, she literally argued with the pilot that she "googled" it.

The terrifying part is why a dumbass like her is directing planes with people's lives in her hands.

So yeah, terrifying.

Not the conversation, you dolt.
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911sAg
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There he is plane guy every thread

Reminds me of IT guy skit from snl
aggiehawg
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torrid said:

If she "Googled it" from her console, does that mean the ATC computers are wired directly to the internet?
Probably her phone.

I take it that is not a busy airport?
CDUB98
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But what if the plane landed on a conveyor....?
annie88
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aggiehawg said:

torrid said:

If she "Googled it" from her console, does that mean the ATC computers are wired directly to the internet?
Probably her phone.

I take it that is not a busy airport?
Reminds me of this from Scrubs.

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agracer
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CDUB98 said:

But what if the plane landed on a conveyor....?
this needs more blue stars...
Tramp96
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A lot, and I mean a lot, of Middle Easterns do their pilot training at Denton. The training facility there has vans that go all over Denton to pick up the students. Always full...and to a person they are all of Middle East origin.

annie88
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Tramp96 said:

A lot, and I mean a lot, of Middle Easterns do their pilot training at Denton. The training facility there has vans that go all over Denton to pick up the students. Always full...and to a person they are all of Middle East origin.
Um ... interesting.
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CDUB98
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annie88 said:

Tramp96 said:

A lot, and I mean a lot, of Middle Easterns do their pilot training at Denton. The training facility there has vans that go all over Denton to pick up the students. Always full...and to a person they are all of Middle East origin.
Um ... interesting.
You lookin' for a date or something?
HarleySpoon
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aggiehawg said:

torrid said:

If she "Googled it" from her console, does that mean the ATC computers are wired directly to the internet?
Probably her phone.

I take it that is not a busy.
Busy enough to be a controlled field.
Maroon Dawn
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Much Strength

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Tramp96 said:

A lot, and I mean a lot, of Middle Easterns do their pilot training at Denton. The training facility there has vans that go all over Denton to pick up the students. Always full...and to a person they are all of Middle East origin.
That is not a frightening statement at all. How much to divert all vans to Costco instead?
lb sand
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Do those students train on how to land the plane? Or are they just interested in how to drive it through the sky?
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