Trump health care plan

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2:26p, 12/27/23
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4376743-trump-vows-to-replace-obamacare-with-his-own-alternative/

This plan is going to be awesome. He has been working on this plan for 8 years.

I remember when it was "coming out in 2 weeks" after the 2020 town hall.
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2:31p, 12/27/23
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I suggest nobody hold their breath for the details.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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2:32p, 12/27/23
how about he shut his piehole on things he cannot achieve and vow instead to eliminate federal subsidized insurance entirely.

also unachievable, but at least it is a conservative principle. and Mr. $8Trillion spender claims he is the only real conservative...
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2:32p, 12/27/23
So replace one worthless government plan which did nothing but foul up the US healthcare industry with another worthless government plan which will make it even worse.

The only plan should be getting as much of the government out of healthcare as possible.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to B-1 83 • 2:34p, 12/27/23
B-1 83 said:
I suggest nobody hold their breath for the details.
All he has to do is replace "Obama" with "Trump," and he'd likely consider it a win.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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2:36p, 12/27/23
I wish one person would ask him

"Mr. Trump, you said you were prepared to unveil the best and most beautiful health care plan nearly 4 years ago. Why are you now saying you will 'come up with it' soon?"

But Trump only does rallies and interviews with sycophants so he'll never get that basic question.
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2:37p, 12/27/23
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He has NO plan
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2:39p, 12/27/23
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Executive order #1, 2025:

Trump Health care plan/diet: All food from now on will be cheeseburgers and well done steak with ketchup.



One thing commendable about Trump is he doesn't drink. If he drank, he'd be dead in a month with the way he eats.

Also, I have yet to hear anyone propose a plan that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Medicare/Medicaid is already a nightmare.
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2:41p, 12/27/23
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"It is not a matter of cost, it is a matter of HEALTH"... lol... can't wait to hear what this really means...

Let's replace one government plan with another! How very principled and conservative of him. Now back to calling Chip Roy and Ted Cruz "RINOs"
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No Spin Ag
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:41p, 12/27/23
Ags77 said:
He has NO plan
Trump doesn't need to have an actual plan when it comes to much of his base. The promise of something, no matter how vague, is more than enough. And if it never comes to fruition, that's okay too, because it'll be blamed on everyone but him. Trump may have been an "outsider" back in '15, but he speaks Washington swamp politician now with the best of them
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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2:41p, 12/27/23
Free skin-oranging for everyone.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 2:42p, 12/27/23
GeorgiAg said:
Executive order #1, 2025:

Trump Health care plan/diet: All food from now on will be cheeseburgers and well done steak with ketchup.



One thing commendable about Trump is he doesn't drink. If he drank, he'd be dead in a month with the way he eats.

Also, I have yet to hear anyone propose a plan that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Medicare/Medicaid is already a nightmare.
The amount of meds keeping him from killing over of a heart attack must be astronomical. Just thinking about how he eats clogs my arteries.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to BigRobSA • 2:43p, 12/27/23
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Free skin-oranging for everyone.
Every suburban white-girls dream come true.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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2:44p, 12/27/23
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The best thing that could come out of a Trump health care plan would be the absolute fit that Democrats will throw over government regulated insurance and how it shouldn't be up to the government if we want to manage our own healthcare.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 2:45p, 12/27/23
GeorgiAg said:
Executive order #1, 2025:

Trump Health care plan/diet: All food from now on will be cheeseburgers and well done steak with ketchup.



One thing commendable about Trump is he doesn't drink. If he drank, he'd be dead in a month with the way he eats.

Also, I have yet to hear anyone propose a plan that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Medicare/Medicaid is already a nightmare.


Honestly, the health care system is a nightmare to figure out. We have an aging, obese population and foot the R&D bill for the rest of the world. We have a limited number of doctors that all paid $250k+ for their education and want that investment back. And we are a compassionate country that doesn't want people with severe illnesses to go uninsured. I'd respect a politician that was frank with the American people and said it is a very complex issue and to fix it the downsides with be one or more of the following:

-gutting the insurance industry overhead and putting millions out of work
-reducing care
-extending wait times
-letting sick people lose coverage and letting the chips fall
-increase taxes and go universal

You can't have everything without the mess we have now.

I just find it hilarious that Trump's beautiful plan is always 2 weeks away because he can't admit he doesn't have a clue what to do with it.
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2:45p, 12/27/23
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Two words:

FAT TAX.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 2:46p, 12/27/23
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GeorgiAg said:
Two words:

FAT TAX.
If that passes, I'm in favor of a dumbass tax being next in line.
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:47p, 12/27/23
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Ags77 said:
He has NO plan
...and that's what we need. No gov healthcare.
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2:49p, 12/27/23
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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In reply to BoydCrowder13 • 2:51p, 12/27/23
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BoydCrowder13 said:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4376743-trump-vows-to-replace-obamacare-with-his-own-alternative/

This plan is going to be awesome. He has been working on this plan for 8 years.

I remember when it was "coming out in 2 weeks" after the 2020 town hall.
Why don't he just get government out of healthcare completely?
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 2:55p, 12/27/23
GeorgiAg said:
Two words:

FAT TAX.


We'd balance the budget by the end of the first fiscal year.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Secolobo • 2:56p, 12/27/23
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Secolobo said:
Ags77 said:
He has NO plan
...and that's what we need. No gov healthcare.


If only he had said that, lol.

Instead of " in two weeks we will reveal the most beautiful health plan. One you will love. Cheaper and far better than Obama care ."
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3:05p, 12/27/23
Lotta Biden voters on this thread


Neat stuff
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3:05p, 12/27/23
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I recently looked back at what I was paying weekly for my insurance before Obamacare. It was something like 26 dollars a week. Now I'm at 265 dollars a week with less coverage. Really outrageous that people keep electing these criminals.
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3:11p, 12/27/23
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This is why Trump is such a bad idea. The important thing to him is to have something that is Trump branded. The answer is to get government completely out of it, but you can't brand non-involvement. So the "conservative" answer will be a big government program painted MAGA red and some throw-ins for rural America. But at least all the issues that come out of it we can blame on some RINO's and the Democrats that take it over after he's out of office.
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In reply to Phatbob • 3:17p, 12/27/23
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Quote:
The answer is to get government completely out of it

Every conservative believed this until Trump told them not to.
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In reply to Kraft Punk • 3:23p, 12/27/23
Kraft Punk said:
Lotta Biden voters on this thread


Neat stuff


Really? Any actual thoughts on Trump's health care "plan"?
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In reply to BoydCrowder13 • 3:25p, 12/27/23
BoydCrowder13 said:
I wish one person would ask him

"Mr. Trump, you said you were prepared to unveil the best and most beautiful health care plan nearly 4 years ago. Why are you now saying you will 'come up with it' soon?"

But Trump only does rallies and interviews with sycophants so he'll never get that basic question.


If only there were these…forums, where the candidates talked to each other and moderators about their ideas and plans, and why they should be the nominee. Or, if only one candidate wasn't scared of how bad they'd look and actually participated we might know more about this big beautiful mystery plan.
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In reply to Philip J Fry • 3:28p, 12/27/23
Philip J Fry said:
I recently looked back at what I was paying weekly for my insurance before Obamacare. It was something like 26 dollars a week. Now I'm at 265 dollars a week with less coverage. Really outrageous that people keep electing these criminals.
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3:28p, 12/27/23
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It's pretty obvious trumps plan is to keep promising his followers that he has a GREAT health care plan that is much better than Obama care. He doesn't need to follow through, just keep saying it's coming, his followers will buy it.
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3:31p, 12/27/23
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Free healthcare for all and he'll make Canada pay for it!
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 3:33p, 12/27/23
J. Walter Weatherman said:
BoydCrowder13 said:
I wish one person would ask him

"Mr. Trump, you said you were prepared to unveil the best and most beautiful health care plan nearly 4 years ago. Why are you now saying you will 'come up with it' soon?"

But Trump only does rallies and interviews with sycophants so he'll never get that basic question.


If only there were these…forums, where the candidates talked to each other and moderators about their ideas and plans, and why they should be the nominee. Or, if only one candidate wasn't scared of how bad they'd look and actually participated we might know more about this big beautiful mystery plan.


That's the scary thing about the no debate mentality. Trump can literally avoid all opposing viewpoints that might poke holes in this "policy plan" and his supporters are too enthralled to even question what the guy says.

So we get this sloppy low IQ platform that is no better than "Hope and Change".
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3:33p, 12/27/23
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His plan is irrelevant even if he has one. The Republicans had an opportunity to replace Obamacare when they became the majority and actively chose not to address it.

And this was after passing 40+ measures against it as the minority party. But as soon as they take the reins...crickets.

So plan all you want, Trump. It's DOA unless he's ironically going to propose UHC (which he was in favor of in the past). Don't be surprised if that's what he's doing.
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In reply to Sims • 3:36p, 12/27/23
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Sims said:
GeorgiAg said:
Two words:

FAT TAX.
If that passes, I'm in favor of a dumbass tax being next in line.
Then folks here won't be able to pay for the Premium site.
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3:36p, 12/27/23
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the counter to a socialist nationalized / federalized program that only makes the remaining workers/owners/producers more poor and can only advance socialism and the political elite is to cancel it; not to replace it.
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