..............or maybe we really don't. That said, had a few good discussions with my wife, friends and colleagues over holiday libations the last few days and most of us agreed on this.

It is time for Generation X to run this country. It's well past time for the Boomers to go on permanent vacation and for Y and Z to see that X knows what it's doing.

My peer group finds it absolutely amazing that we are heading in to a national election and the most likely scenario is that two geriatrics are going head to head. This is the really the best we can do? This is the best we have to offer? What does the rest of the world even think looking at this sh** show?

The 2024 Election should be Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis. Even Newsom vs. Haley. Or Newsom vs. DeSantis/Haley. This election should pit California/New York against Texas/Florida. Republicans and Democrats should be demanding this. Yet we don't. Why? For better or worse, this is the future of the country. This is the battle for the soul of America. The other 46 matter, for certain, but they are details. Align behind one side or the other.

I don't like Newsom at any level. But he is smart, accomplished, young(er), and yes, good looking and charismatic. And successful.

I very much like DeSantis. He is young, a great family man, has served our country with distinction, his success in Florida is without question, and he is tenacious, smart, and driven. Sure, he's a little dry. Oh well.

This fight should be exactly what America demands for the future of this nation because this is the future of this nation. As much as I loathe Newsom, at least he is competent and on point. He can lead. Clearly the same for DeSantis and Haley. By contrast we are going to elect one of two morally deficient old men, one who has no idea what planet he's on and the other that is so consumed with himself he cares only for who kisses his ring.

If either Biden or Trump genuinely cared about the future of country they would back out and endorse both of these governors. Again, for better or worse, let them fight it out and let the chips fly. I would sleep very well at night with Ron in the White House. I would be somewhat less embarrassed to be an American with Newsom in charge than Biden.

Two other points.

Literally no one in this country except democrat voting geriatrics believe Biden is running anything.

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump wouldn't be running the show either. It's almost as if some powers that be benefit from figure head leaders who really don't lead sh**.

We deserve a real fight by two competent candidates representing the future of the country, for better or worse. What we currently have is an absolute cluster F joke.

obligatory

Yes, I will vote for Trump in the general

yay

Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

Trump '24

Urban Ag said:

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..............or maybe we really don't. That said, had a few good discussions with my wife, friends and colleagues over holiday libations the last few days and most of us agreed on this.

It is time for Generation X to run this country. It's well past time for the Boomers to go on permanent vacation and for Y and Z to see that X knows what it's doing.

My peer group finds it absolutely amazing that we are heading in to a national election and the most likely scenario is that two geriatrics are going head to head. This is the really the best we can do? This is the best we have to offer? What does the rest of the world even think looking at this sh** show?

The 2024 Election should be Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis. Even Newsom vs. Haley. Or Newsom vs. DeSantis/Haley. This election should pit California/New York against Texas/Florida. Republicans and Democrats should be demanding this. Yet we don't. Why? For better or worse, this is the future of the country. This is the battle for the soul of America. The other 46 matter, for certain, but they are details. Align behind one side or the other.

I don't like Newsom at any level. But he is smart, accomplished, young(er), and yes, good looking and charismatic. And successful.

I very much like DeSantis. He is young, a great family man, has served our country with distinction, his success in Florida is without question, and he is tenacious, smart, and driven. Sure, he's a little dry. Oh well.

This fight should be exactly what America demands for the future of this nation because this is the future of this nation. As much as I loathe Newsom, at least he is competent and on point. He can lead. Clearly the same for DeSantis and Haley. By contrast we are going to elect one of two morally deficient old men, one who has no idea what planet he's on and the other that is so consumed with himself he cares only for who kisses his ring.

If either Biden or Trump genuinely cared about the future of country they would back out and endorse both of these governors. Again, for better or worse, let them fight it out and let the chips fly. I would sleep very well at night with Ron in the White House. I would be somewhat less embarrassed to be an American with Newsom in charge than Biden.

Two other points.

Literally no one in this country except democrat voting geriatrics believe Biden is running anything.

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump wouldn't be running the show either. It's almost as if some powers that be benefit from figure head leaders who really don't lead sh**.

We deserve a real fight by two competent candidates representing the future of the country, for better or worse. What we currently have is an absolute cluster F joke.

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Yep, I am just staggered people really want Trump or Biden at this point. We really don't have to keep doing this.

If you're older than the federal retirement age you should not be able to run for federal office.

Summary of OP: I spent the weekend around my family and friends walking around being buzzed politics dorks and they nodded and said they agreed to placate me so I'd go away.

AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we spoiled you, gave you this technology platform you can whine on, and kept you out of a nuclear holocaust etc.

PA24 said:

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Read Psalms 90-10

It will soon be over for the Boomers.

Remember we had to put up with our father's generation until Clinton in 1992.

Boomer legacy:
Clinton
Bush
Obama
Trump
Biden
Trump (projected)

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Reagan was elected in 1980. As the tail end of the "Boomers" folks whine about, it was my first Presidential election. Now tell us what block(s) of voters emerged that put all the others in.

Does the OP think a 62 year old is too old for office?

Nope we deserve a Trump/Biden matchup because thats what you people keep voting for. The other options, like DeSantis/Newsom, aren't going to yield significantly different outcomes are they?

The youngest boomers are 59. Wisdom is a thing. Get some.

doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we spoiled you, gave you this technology platform you can whine on, and kept you out of a nuclear holocaust etc.

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Nobody whines on the internet more than boomers and idk if you can take credit for keeping us out of something you almost got us in.

AggieVictor10 said:

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doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we spoiled you, gave you this technology platform you can whine on, and kept you out of a nuclear holocaust etc.

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Nobody whines spits out more hard truth on the internet more than boomers and idk if you can take credit for keeping us out of something you almost got us in.

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Edited and I'm not sure that "almost" is a bad thing. Sort of like all generations now that think males are "almost" females.

aggie93 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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..............or maybe we really don't. That said, had a few good discussions with my wife, friends and colleagues over holiday libations the last few days and most of us agreed on this.

It is time for Generation X to run this country. It's well past time for the Boomers to go on permanent vacation and for Y and Z to see that X knows what it's doing.

My peer group finds it absolutely amazing that we are heading in to a national election and the most likely scenario is that two geriatrics are going head to head. This is the really the best we can do? This is the best we have to offer? What does the rest of the world even think looking at this sh** show?

The 2024 Election should be Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis. Even Newsom vs. Haley. Or Newsom vs. DeSantis/Haley. This election should pit California/New York against Texas/Florida. Republicans and Democrats should be demanding this. Yet we don't. Why? For better or worse, this is the future of the country. This is the battle for the soul of America. The other 46 matter, for certain, but they are details. Align behind one side or the other.

I don't like Newsom at any level. But he is smart, accomplished, young(er), and yes, good looking and charismatic. And successful.

I very much like DeSantis. He is young, a great family man, has served our country with distinction, his success in Florida is without question, and he is tenacious, smart, and driven. Sure, he's a little dry. Oh well.

This fight should be exactly what America demands for the future of this nation because this is the future of this nation. As much as I loathe Newsom, at least he is competent and on point. He can lead. Clearly the same for DeSantis and Haley. By contrast we are going to elect one of two morally deficient old men, one who has no idea what planet he's on and the other that is so consumed with himself he cares only for who kisses his ring.

If either Biden or Trump genuinely cared about the future of country they would back out and endorse both of these governors. Again, for better or worse, let them fight it out and let the chips fly. I would sleep very well at night with Ron in the White House. I would be somewhat less embarrassed to be an American with Newsom in charge than Biden.

Two other points.

Literally no one in this country except democrat voting geriatrics believe Biden is running anything.

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump wouldn't be running the show either. It's almost as if some powers that be benefit from figure head leaders who really don't lead sh**.

We deserve a real fight by two competent candidates representing the future of the country, for better or worse. What we currently have is an absolute cluster F joke.

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Yep, I am just staggered people really want Trump or Biden at this point. We really don't have to keep doing this.

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Most of the people who actually want either of those two are old themselves. So they don't view a politician not too much older than themselves as a problem.

Nmind.

The problem is simply the boomers were a huge generation and have a huge amount of wealth, whereas Gen-X is smaller and is still in the wealth accumulation process. With Americans living longer and retiring more lucratively, the boomers have had the interest and opportunity and means to stay involved in politics.

This has often served to delay the transition of political responsibilities to Gen-x when they are in the prime of their leadership capacity. That's just the way it will be.

Urban Ag said:

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..............or maybe we really don't. That said, had a few good discussions with my wife, friends and colleagues over holiday libations the last few days and most of us agreed on this.

It is time for Generation X to run this country. It's well past time for the Boomers to go on permanent vacation and for Y and Z to see that X knows what it's doing.

My peer group finds it absolutely amazing that we are heading in to a national election and the most likely scenario is that two geriatrics are going head to head. This is the really the best we can do? This is the best we have to offer? What does the rest of the world even think looking at this sh** show?

The 2024 Election should be Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis. Even Newsom vs. Haley. Or Newsom vs. DeSantis/Haley. This election should pit California/New York against Texas/Florida. Republicans and Democrats should be demanding this. Yet we don't. Why? For better or worse, this is the future of the country. This is the battle for the soul of America. The other 46 matter, for certain, but they are details. Align behind one side or the other.

I don't like Newsom at any level. But he is smart, accomplished, young(er), and yes, good looking and charismatic. And successful.

I very much like DeSantis. He is young, a great family man, has served our country with distinction, his success in Florida is without question, and he is tenacious, smart, and driven. Sure, he's a little dry. Oh well.

This fight should be exactly what America demands for the future of this nation because this is the future of this nation. As much as I loathe Newsom, at least he is competent and on point. He can lead. Clearly the same for DeSantis and Haley. By contrast we are going to elect one of two morally deficient old men, one who has no idea what planet he's on and the other that is so consumed with himself he cares only for who kisses his ring.

If either Biden or Trump genuinely cared about the future of country they would back out and endorse both of these governors. Again, for better or worse, let them fight it out and let the chips fly. I would sleep very well at night with Ron in the White House. I would be somewhat less embarrassed to be an American with Newsom in charge than Biden.

Two other points.

Literally no one in this country except democrat voting geriatrics believe Biden is running anything.

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump wouldn't be running the show either. It's almost as if some powers that be benefit from figure head leaders who really don't lead sh**.

We deserve a real fight by two competent candidates representing the future of the country, for better or worse. What we currently have is an absolute cluster F joke.

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I'm sorry... are you ****ing kidding me? Newsome?

You're ****ing with us, correct?

smmfh

I can't take anyone serious who can't let off the damned space bar.

Maybe it's a little premature for Gen X'ers to take control…

I guess the OP misplaced his participation trophies and lost his happy meal.

Kozmozag said:

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The youngest boomers are 59. Wisdom is a thing. Get some.

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It depends on the source of generational theory. I prefer the Strauss and Howe breakdown which is 1961-1981 for Gen X. I am 61 and I have always felt that I fit the definition of a Gen Xer much more than a Boomer.

bthotugigem05 said:

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If you're older than the federal retirement age you should not be able to run for federal office.

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Federal retirement would be 100 then.

AggieVictor10 said:

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doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we spoiled you, gave you this technology platform you can whine on, and kept you out of a nuclear holocaust etc.

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Nobody whines on the internet more than boomers and idk if you can take credit for keeping us out of something you almost got us in.

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Now your whining about boomers whining. Just to prove my point. Thank you.
Just the fact that you can sit there and whine is credit enough. Your welcome.

doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we spoiled you, gave you this technology platform you can whine on, and kept you out of a nuclear holocaust etc.

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There was no real risk of nuclear holocaust after the cuban missile crisis. The fact that you believe there was is further evidence that your generation is one of the most gullible ever to exist.

doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we ran up the government debt to levels that will be unrecoverable, closed down the country for 2 years because we were scared of a cold, voted in Obamacare, stole unprecedented amounts from future generations, voted ourselves unsustainable entitlements, allowed unfettered immigration that will forever change the cultural face of this country, ruined higher education, and devalued your dollar so it will be almost impossible for generations after X to own homes, and caused the greatest recesssion since the great depression.

FIFY

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We rarely get what we deserve. Candidates who make it far in the primary system are there because sometimes they're the least objectionable or they have charisma. America doesn't have the patience to research positions on issues. We're dumb and lazy and take whatever soundbites we can get to make our decisions.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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Most of the people who actually want either of those two are old themselves. So they don't view a politician not too much older than themselves as a problem.

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And, they're also liberal, like both 80 yr olds.

Desantis 2024!

aggie93 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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..............or maybe we really don't. That said, had a few good discussions with my wife, friends and colleagues over holiday libations the last few days and most of us agreed on this.

It is time for Generation X to run this country. It's well past time for the Boomers to go on permanent vacation and for Y and Z to see that X knows what it's doing.

My peer group finds it absolutely amazing that we are heading in to a national election and the most likely scenario is that two geriatrics are going head to head. This is the really the best we can do? This is the best we have to offer? What does the rest of the world even think looking at this sh** show?

The 2024 Election should be Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis. Even Newsom vs. Haley. Or Newsom vs. DeSantis/Haley. This election should pit California/New York against Texas/Florida. Republicans and Democrats should be demanding this. Yet we don't. Why? For better or worse, this is the future of the country. This is the battle for the soul of America. The other 46 matter, for certain, but they are details. Align behind one side or the other.

I don't like Newsom at any level. But he is smart, accomplished, young(er), and yes, good looking and charismatic. And successful.

I very much like DeSantis. He is young, a great family man, has served our country with distinction, his success in Florida is without question, and he is tenacious, smart, and driven. Sure, he's a little dry. Oh well.

This fight should be exactly what America demands for the future of this nation because this is the future of this nation. As much as I loathe Newsom, at least he is competent and on point. He can lead. Clearly the same for DeSantis and Haley. By contrast we are going to elect one of two morally deficient old men, one who has no idea what planet he's on and the other that is so consumed with himself he cares only for who kisses his ring.

If either Biden or Trump genuinely cared about the future of country they would back out and endorse both of these governors. Again, for better or worse, let them fight it out and let the chips fly. I would sleep very well at night with Ron in the White House. I would be somewhat less embarrassed to be an American with Newsom in charge than Biden.

Two other points.

Literally no one in this country except democrat voting geriatrics believe Biden is running anything.

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump wouldn't be running the show either. It's almost as if some powers that be benefit from figure head leaders who really don't lead sh**.

We deserve a real fight by two competent candidates representing the future of the country, for better or worse. What we currently have is an absolute cluster F joke.

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Yep, I am just staggered people really want Trump or Biden at this point. We really don't have to keep doing this.

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Yep this is what totally puzzles me, and I'm old old old. What's wrong with this country? IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY! Please look beyond Biden and Trump.

Ags4DaWin said:

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doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we ran up the government debt to levels that will be unrecoverable, closed down the country for 2 years because we were scared of a cold, voted in Obamacare, stole unprecedented amounts from future generations, voted ourselves unsustainable entitlements, allowed unfettered immigration that will forever change the cultural face of this country, ruined higher education, and devalued your dollar so it will be almost impossible for generations after X to own homes, and caused the greatest recesssion since the great depression.

FIFY

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Sorry to tell you this, but the vast majority of your complaints are the fault of the millennials.

Obama --- Youth (millennial vote)
Immigration ... Obama/Biden (see above)
Higher Education ... I grant you that...
Hippies in charge, But the students (millennials) went along with the changes without complaint
Devalued dollar (Obama)
Great Recession (Greedy Millennials and Boomers)
The rest are just spin offs are due poor democratic policies and wars, mostly supported by millennials.

doubledog said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we ran up the government debt to levels that will be unrecoverable, closed down the country for 2 years because we were scared of a cold, voted in Obamacare, stole unprecedented amounts from future generations, voted ourselves unsustainable entitlements, allowed unfettered immigration that will forever change the cultural face of this country, ruined higher education, and devalued your dollar so it will be almost impossible for generations after X to own homes, and caused the greatest recesssion since the great depression.

FIFY

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Sorry to tell you this, but the vast majority of your complaints are the fault of the millennials.

Obama --- Youth (millennial vote)
Immigration ... Obama/Biden (see above)
Higher Education ... I grant you that...
Hippies in charge, But the students (millennials) went along with the changes without complaint
Devalued dollar (Obama)
Great Recession (Greedy Millennials and Boomers)
The rest are just spin offs of poor democratic policies, supported by millennials.

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Trump, and then Biden, did more to devalue the dollar than dumbass Obama. Trump spent more than him, in only 4 yrs, like the good little liberal he is.

The OP seems to seriously believe the boomers did a better job of governing than their predecessor generations,
including the greatest generation(?). But still did so poorly that they need to step aside in favor of still younger generations.

What in the world could possibly make anyone believe that younger generations would automatically deliver better results in controlling an out of control bureaucracy funded by confiscatory taxes than the yo-yos who created the mess?

doubledog said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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doubledog said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Agreed, boomers ruined the country. Time for the next generation to take over.

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Sorry we ran up the government debt to levels that will be unrecoverable, closed down the country for 2 years because we were scared of a cold, voted in Obamacare, stole unprecedented amounts from future generations, voted ourselves unsustainable entitlements, allowed unfettered immigration that will forever change the cultural face of this country, ruined higher education, and devalued your dollar so it will be almost impossible for generations after X to own homes, and caused the greatest recesssion since the great depression.

FIFY

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Sorry to tell you this, but the vast majority of your complaints are the fault of the millennials.

Obama --- Youth (millennial vote)
Immigration ... Obama/Biden (see above)
Higher Education ... I grant you that...
Hippies in charge, But the students (millennials) went along with the changes without complaint
Devalued dollar (Obama)
Great Recession (Greedy Millennials and Boomers)
The rest are just spin offs are due poor democratic policies and wars, mostly supported by millennials.

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Except those are all things that Boomers could and should have fixed, but didn't. The "Greatest Generation" put into place an entire suite of social programs to pay for themselves through the Boomers, knowing there would be plenty of their kids to pay for it. Since they are all ponzi schemes, it more or less got paid for to the benefit of their generation. The Boomers knew what it was, and saw that they were getting screwed by their parents, but did nothing to fix it, knowing their kids and grandkids were going to get really screwed to make up for their parents poor planning. Now we have had multiple generations of people who get screwed, but it's the Boomers who are demanding that nothing get fixed, because they have their wealth, and have no interest in changing what will finally benefit them. The Boomers are not the ones with the original sin here, but they are the ones who saw what the right thing was, but chose to be selfish rather than fix it. You can blame Millennials for voting for the liberal Boomers, but the Boomers only gave them the variety of liberals to choose between and lied to them, telling them that it was in their self-interest to do so.