Jack Squat 83 said:

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If the true interest of all of this was for the health of Americans, they should have more publicly broken down who suffered major illnesses or death due to the original Wuhan virus.

It seems like a great opportunity to guide the country to a more healthy lifestyle(ie - lose weight?) after the plague passed somewhat. Of course that would have been mean to the heavier among us, so nope that's out.

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Same thing Fauci did with AIDS, remember?

Everyone was at complete and equal risk!

Yeah, not so much. Gays and intravenous drug users hardest hit.

I am not getting any boosters nor having my kids vaccinated. The new data doesn't lie and the new strains of Covid aren't worth any risks from a vaccine.

Edit to add that I was very pro vaccine when Covid was more severe and I was naive enough to believe that my colleagues in the medical community wouldn't so brazenly misrepresent data.

Don't care what shots everyone gets as long as I get to pick, and it is not mandated.

/Liberty

8 yr old poster child for the covid jab dies of a heart attack.https://t.co/xK4e1UV8hD pic.twitter.com/WuxJVZlAKn

— Dane (@UltraDane) October 9, 2023

I've had one booster, if you are 65+ you better have more than that.

And the numbers are accurate, look at any states' data, I have posted Washington repeatedly.

PCC_80 said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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I know they've got Travis Kelce on the KC Chiefs pimping the Pfizer shot and they're still pushing las vacunas on the Spanish language channels I follow.

I've got one of my direct reports who called in sick today because he said he's feeling ill after getting his latest Booster for the Vid. I assume this is just an excuse to take a sick day which you don't even need a reason for anyway. Our employer doesn't require it.

In October 2023, 3 1/2 years into the thing, why would anybody be getting a Covid Booster? Who is still requiring this?

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What blows my mind is that this crap has never been completely tested yet it is still being allowed to be used. Every other medicine/vaccine has been required to go through 5-10 years of testing to determine if it is actually safe. Things like Cancers and organ damage often take years to develop and to show themselves.

Is this stuff still being used on an Emergency Basis ? ? ? Why ? ? ? What is the Emergency ? ? ?

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I was thinking about this the other day. If Biden declared the pandemic over, then there's no justification for still giving out shots without full FDA approval. To my knowledge there is still no full approval.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/full-fda-approval-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-should-know

I'm still trying to understand why anyone joined the test group in this medical experiment in the first place. The heck with why anyone would get a so called booster.

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https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/full-fda-approval-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-should-know

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They skipped 6-10 years of safety studies and two major Vaccine scientist at the FDA resigned over it. Sad

FLAWED Booster data was used by FDA for Mass Vax Campaign & We PROVE it in our new PAPER

Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor
Hematologist/ Oncologist
Professor of Epidemiology, Biostatistics and Medicine
Author of 450+ Peer Reviewed papers, 2 Books, 2 Podcasts, 100+ op-eds.

The only people I personally know who died from covid since May 2021 were people who got the vaccine.

https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/fda-wants-to-push-a-yearly-shot-on

FDA wants to push a yearly shot on 6 year old girls & 20 year old men without RCTs proving reduction in severe disease


https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/cdcs-risk-benefit-slide-is-inaccurate

CDC's risk benefit slide is inaccurate

On Sept 1, 2021, it was reported that Marion Gruber and Philip Krause, two long time officials in FDA's office of vaccine products, and the Director and Deputy Director, would resign .
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Multiple news outlets reported that this decision, after decades working at FDA, was due to the fact that the white house had launched a media campaign promising American's boosters for all by the end of the month.

This decision was coercive to the employees of the FDA who could no longer consider the application impartially, as they faced strong political pressure to authorize.

The two senior FDA scientists joined others in a Lancet paper arguing why boosters were not supported by solid science, to which Fauci was critical.

FDA can't be trusted, for example:

samurai_science said:

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dustin999 said:

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I agree it's sorta a joke at this point, and probably 95%+ of people getting the vax or masking are doing it to virtue signal or whatever.

But there are still plenty of people with compromised immune systems, cancer, etc. where the risk/reward leans in favor of the vax.

As a cancer survivor myself, having gone through 4 cycles of chemo in 2018 and watching my blood levels (low neutrophils, rbc/wbc counts, etc.) the flu or covid would've been a real challenge.

Now, as a healthy 46 year old, I would never consider getting vaxed.

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Except the vax makes your more likely to get sick.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/cleveland-clinic-peer-reviewed-study-found-that-more/

Cleveland Clinic Peer-Reviewed Study Found that the More Vaccines You've Had, the Higher Your COVID-19 Infection Risk

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GatewayPundit is definitely my go-to for medical advice and interpretation of scientific data

samurai_science said:

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Except the vax makes your more likely to get sick.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/cleveland-clinic-peer-reviewed-study-found-that-more/

Cleveland Clinic Peer-Reviewed Study Found that the More Vaccines You've Had, the Higher Your COVID-19 Infection Risk

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If this is true, then yeah I would reconsider that. I think I'd need more data. My understanding is, the vax doesn't prevent covid (thus the question, why is it called a vaccine?), it just makes it more manageable.

Honestly, when I was going through my treatments for 4 months, I just mostly hid at home. I did get neutropenic fever after my first cycle which really sucked, landed in the hospital for 5 days.

I'd do whatever it takes to keep myself safe while going through treatment.

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samurai_science said:

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dustin999 said:

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I agree it's sorta a joke at this point, and probably 95%+ of people getting the vax or masking are doing it to virtue signal or whatever.

But there are still plenty of people with compromised immune systems, cancer, etc. where the risk/reward leans in favor of the vax.

As a cancer survivor myself, having gone through 4 cycles of chemo in 2018 and watching my blood levels (low neutrophils, rbc/wbc counts, etc.) the flu or covid would've been a real challenge.

Now, as a healthy 46 year old, I would never consider getting vaxed.

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Except the vax makes your more likely to get sick.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/cleveland-clinic-peer-reviewed-study-found-that-more/

Cleveland Clinic Peer-Reviewed Study Found that the More Vaccines You've Had, the Higher Your COVID-19 Infection Risk

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GatewayPundit is definitely my go-to for medical advice and interpretation of scientific data

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That's okay, skip the actual study and focus on the important things. LOL

Tumble Weed said:

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Munchausen's seems to be common in my company. Still have 3 maskers.

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There was a guy that came in with his daughter, who looked to be about seven years old who had an N 95 mask on at the movie theater today.

Thankfully he didn't make the daughter wear one. It was today at 1:30 PM. It was not crowded in the theaters. I'm telling you these people are just brainwashed. It's freaking 2023. They were dumb enough in 2020.

Birdwatcher said:

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I've already gotten my flu shot, shingles, and tetanus. Next are RSV and Covid.

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Agreed. It's less about whether or not I'll survive but more to lessen the symptoms if I do get sick.

There is a fool born everyday.

Hawk2007 said:

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Birdwatcher said:

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I've already gotten my flu shot, shingles, and tetanus. Next are RSV and Covid.

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Agreed. It's less about whether or not I'll survive but more to lessen the symptoms if I do get sick.

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Don't forget to wear your mask when you get it. 2 even.

Manhattan said:

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Well there were 10,000s of COVID caused deaths in winter 2021- 2022 and you were 2-3x more likely to die if not vaxed, so there were 10,000s of people who essentially committed suicide to spite the libs.

So yeah, they helped end the pandemic, by dying.

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If I recall correctly they included all the people that died before the vax was even available. So the numbers are completely skewed and the findings are trash.

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Hawk2007 said:

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Birdwatcher said:

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I've already gotten my flu shot, shingles, and tetanus. Next are RSV and Covid.

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Agreed. It's less about whether or not I'll survive but more to lessen the symptoms if I do get sick.

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Don't forget to wear your mask when you get it. 2 even.

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Worry more about yourself chap.

Tea Party said:

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Because they are sheep who follow the crowd and are not courageous enough to stand against it.

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Oh yeah, and there's no sheep following and dog piling on TexAgs, right?

dustin999 said:

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But there are still plenty of people with compromised immune systems, cancer, etc. where the risk/reward leans in favor of the vax.

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There isn't a community of people in the existence of all humanity that have/would've/could've benefited from a shot. It was never a vax. It still isn't. It's poison and has been proven as much.

Might as well just call it the medical industrial complex at this point.

Birdwatcher said:

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I've already gotten my flu shot, shingles, and tetanus. Next are RSV and Covid.

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Might wanna get your affairs in order first.

samurai_science said:

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This is all you need to know .. anyone who doesn't understand this is pretty much stupid and must have an iQ of perhaps That or a monkey or orangutan… there is a few posters on this thread that probably fall into that category ..

If your want to take shots to make the shot makers happy maybe try the flu shot .. at least we know the flu can be harmful to adults