Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to Waffledynamics • 8:39p, 9/28/24
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Well... can't argue with the results.
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 9:10p, 9/28/24
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Waffledynamics said:



If this is true, they really wanted to make sure that guy was dead dead.


Makes no sense. 83 1000 lb bombs on a single target? While technically possible makes no sense. Something lost in translation
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In reply to deddog • 9:12p, 9/28/24
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The bunker was below a midrise apartment building in all likelihood
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In reply to deddog • 9:13p, 9/28/24
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deddog said:
Waffledynamics said:



If this is true, they really wanted to make sure that guy was dead dead.


Makes no sense. 83 1000 lb bombs on a single target? While technically possible makes no sense. Something lost in translation


Perhaps Mark 83 1,000lb bombs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_83_bomb
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10:02p, 9/28/24
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J Post says around 100 munitions…

"About a hundred munitions were used, with bombers dropping them every two seconds in perfect precision."

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-822244
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10:16p, 9/28/24
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Reports out of Iran that the guy responsible for coordinating Iran's efforts to support the Houthis went down in a helicopter crash in southwestern Iran.
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In reply to txags92 • 10:35p, 9/28/24
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txags92 said:
Reports out of Iran that the guy responsible for coordinating Iran's efforts to support the Houthis went down in a helicopter crash in southwestern Iran.
Man, doing some work
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In reply to 2wealfth Man • 10:42p, 9/28/24
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2wealfth Man said:
txags92 said:
Reports out of Iran that the guy responsible for coordinating Iran's efforts to support the Houthis went down in a helicopter crash in southwestern Iran.
Man, doing some work
Unconfirmed at this point, but would fit the pattern. Doesn't look like Israel is planning to listen to any more nonsense about cease fire deals until they finish their work.
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In reply to txags92 • 10:45p, 9/28/24
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txags92 said:
2wealfth Man said:
txags92 said:
Reports out of Iran that the guy responsible for coordinating Iran's efforts to support the Houthis went down in a helicopter crash in southwestern Iran.
Man, doing some work
Unconfirmed at this point, but would fit the pattern. Doesn't look like Israel is planning to listen to any more nonsense about cease fire deals until they finish their work.
They should have done this a long time ago. Trying to appease has brought nothing but continued attacks on their people.
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In reply to deddog • 11:22p, 9/28/24
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deddog said:
Waffledynamics said:



If this is true, they really wanted to make sure that guy was dead dead.


Makes no sense. 83 1000 lb bombs on a single target? While technically possible makes no sense. Something lost in translation


It was 83 bombs. The bunker was deep and they had to do multiple hits on same point to get deep. Israel also said they wanted to make sure there was no escaping via connected tunnels.
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3:58a, 9/29/24
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I think it's more that they've known these people's whereabouts for years but never managed to get them all in the same place. If you're going to strike in the middle of Beirut (or with a planted charge in Tehran) you better be damn well sure you're hitting all of the leadership at the same time.

Can't imagine what was going through their heads (besides the warhead) as the bunker busters got closer and closer.
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4:06a, 9/29/24
Some would argue "OMG the poor people in that apartment complex".

No, that's on Hez. They were using those people as human shields. Every person in that complex would know there was a large Hez bunker under it and they were happy to do their part in trying to protect it.

Hell, the IDF even sent out messages telling civilians to get away from anyplace housing Hez.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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In reply to bkag9824 • 5:26a, 9/29/24
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Next!



Good piece:
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In reply to nortex97 • 7:58a, 9/29/24
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[Edited to remove duplication of multiple X links which only clutter the page. No other edits -- Staff]

A link to the article that is paywalled by WSJ.

https://archive.ph/20240929120309/https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hezbollah-misjudged-israels-weakness-and-irans-might-b169e552?st=t5MeUK&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
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In reply to Ulysses90 • 9:36a, 9/29/24
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Thanks for the link.
Good read
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9:39a, 9/29/24
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Israel hit something that burns black smoke, in Yemen. Presumably, a military target/missile stash? Maybe just a ship arriving via Iran?



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In reply to lb sand • 9:42a, 9/29/24
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lb sand said:
Thanks for the link.
Good read
Great article. One key point that I think it raises.

Israel has long considered Hezbollah the greater threat. They've concentrated their intelligence operations there, and they have been reaping the rewards from it the last few weeks.

However, while doing this they seem to have turned a blind eye to Hamas. Missing the signs of the Oct. 7th attacks was just as big an intelligence loss as the exploding beepers were an intelligence win.
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11:44a, 9/29/24
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12:09p, 9/29/24
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https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822398

More info on Houthi targets today for Israel. Oil depots, a whole port, power stations. Dozens of Israeli jets took part.
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12:16p, 9/29/24
Clarification from yesterday's strike against the supposed new Hezbollah leader. He wasn't yet named leader. That aspect of the strike was just internet rumor. They have not yet officially named a replacement for Nasrallah.
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12:17p, 9/29/24
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Made in America with love

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-sends-israel-2-000-pound-bunker-buster-bombs-for-gaza-war-82898638
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12:27p, 9/29/24
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 12:31p, 9/29/24
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AtticusMatlock said:
Clarification from yesterday's strike against the supposed new Hezbollah leader. He wasn't yet named leader. That aspect of the strike was just internet rumor. They have not yet officially named a replacement for Nasrallah.
I seriously doubt if they are lobbying too hard for the job.

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12:43p, 9/29/24
Israel should call for a cease fire, see who shows up to the table and then target them.
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In reply to GasAg90 • 12:46p, 9/29/24
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They probably don't need to - they appear to be in Hezbollahs OODA loop.

How they got there is the true story of this. There is much more to this story, much much more.
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12:57p, 9/29/24


Wow!
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In reply to ProgN • 12:59p, 9/29/24
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Wow!
Dont you know that had to hurt. They deserved every bit of it.
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In reply to ProgN • 1:05p, 9/29/24
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Wow!
Cool video but that's a compilation of clips from strikes carried out long before this past Friday. You an even tell that some of them were at different times of the day when Friday's strikes happened later in the evening.
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In reply to I Am A Critic • 1:09p, 9/29/24
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And I doubt the strike on the leadership had bystanders hanging out waiting to film it
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In reply to nortex97 • 1:33p, 9/29/24
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nortex97 said:


Good piece:


More than anything, I think that Iran, hamas, and hezbollah, once again, vastly underestimated Israel's resolve. They keep doing this **** and upping the ante, and all Israel does is strike back harder.

They went in and razed swaths of gaza clean, and now they've absolutely smashed hezbollah. Iran might want to seriously consider shutting the **** up for the foreseeable future and walking away while they can.

At some point they, and all arabs, have to realize they're not going anywhere and this is just the new norm.
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1:38p, 9/29/24
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Just so everyone knows (lot of traffic here today), and while it's been stated before, Hezbollah/
Nasrallah was/is a big drug trafficker into/through Europe and the America's, really their main non-Iranian revenue source. Lovely people.

I'd be unsurprised if some of the ways the IDF/Mossad tracked down their communications/locations revolved around the funding/communication for this trade/business.

Well, that's a shame:


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In reply to torrid • 1:48p, 9/29/24
torrid said:
lb sand said:
Thanks for the link.
Good read
Great article. One key point that I think it raises.

Israel has long considered Hezbollah the greater threat. They've concentrated their intelligence operations there, and they have been reaping the rewards from it the last few weeks.

However, while doing this they seem to have turned a blind eye to Hamas. Missing the signs of the Oct. 7th attacks was just as big an intelligence loss as the exploding beepers were an intelligence win.
Just like they misread the situation in 1974 and amost got wiped out by Egypt and Syria when both invaded. It happens with humans, they make mistakes.
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2:06p, 9/29/24
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6:25p, 9/29/24
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Just saw a report that an MQ-9 was shot down by the Houthis
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In reply to Jock 07 • 6:49p, 9/29/24
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Jock 07 said:
Just saw a report that an MQ-9 was shot down by the Houthis


Not shocking. They're not made for use in contested airspace, and the Houthis are being supplied SAMs by the Iranians.
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