Israel/Hamas going at it

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Build It said:

This is not good news for the Lebanese people.
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New York Times for the first time in my life doing real reporting and explaining the truth behind what Hamas did to women they captured on October 7.

Try to spread the article to those you know- it's important these Hamas supporters in the USA rioting in our cities are exposed for the rape defenders they are

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Benny Gantz is leader of the second largest party in the Israeli Parliament and more left wing than Netanyahu. He serves in the Emergency Cabinet right now.

UTExan
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Colleges won't confront Hamas violence because they have a Franklin Delano Roosevelt problem:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-university-s-fdr-dilemma-why-campus-leaders-cannot-confront-antisemitism/ar-AA1mdhO4?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=92326eaa92d147e0934932533183d42c&ei=16


" Early in World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt learned of Nazi plans to systematically murder European Jews. Later, advisors urged him to order the bombing rail lines leading to Auschwitz. He rejected their pleas. Actions to prevent these murders, he responded, would turn the war into a campaign to save Jews, and in so doing undermine American's support for the war. "

" So, information about the systematic destruction of European Jewry was suppressed. Military intelligence shelved reports. The New York Times buried articles. Prominent people kept quiet. "

" On Oct. 7, we witnessed the most deadly pogrom, excepting the Holocaust, against Jews in modern history, and thousands of people danced in the streets, not only in Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad, and Tehran, but also on campuses in Philadelphia, New York, Cambridge, Ithaca, and Berkeley. At the time, no university official on a major U.S. campus that I know of unequivocally denounced this action as a pogrom against Jews and excoriated their students and faculty for celebrating the occasion. "




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just look at the literally BILLIONS in dollars of international aid which was funneled to the Palestinians over the last 20 years

and how much of those billions of dollars went to missiles, RPGs, machine guns, ammunition, weapons making foundries, tunnels, rooms in tunnels, electricity for tunnels, elevators, UAVs...

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The testimony by Lia Shem is fascinating on so many levels. How awful the "civilians" of Gaza are...
how many people she knew who were murdered in front of her, how she played the game to not be murdered

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There are a few beautiful things in this world. A beautiful woman. Your beautiful kids. A beautiful waterfall. And then there is the simple beauty of another Hamas terror network being blown to bits.

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LMCane said:

There are a few beautiful things in this world. A beautiful woman. Your beautiful kids. A beautiful waterfall. And then there is the simple beauty of another Hamas terror network being blown to bits.


I was just about to post this. Seeing those tunnel networks go up in smoke is a sight to behold. It is also infuriating to see what foriegn aid money, mostly from the U.S., was used for in munitions and tunnels. I am glad what we all expected - that Hamas was using mosques, hospitals, schools, daycares, and private homes as cover is being exposed for all to see.

Thankfully Israelis are sticking to their guns and not messing around. I pray they keep at it until every single tunnel is destroyed and every single Hamas leader is dead. They made a stategic mistake when they decided to attack innocent Israeli citizens.
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Washington Post admits it "mischaracterized" an account of Gaza mothers being separated from their babies:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/washington-post-admits-it-mischaracterized-story-on-separation-of-gaza-mothers-and-babies/ar-AA1mdhLG?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f24a70f36e6a4bf39c2a5dbd843942fa&ei=12

" The Washington Post added a lengthy correction to a month-old news story on Thursday, admitting it had "mischaracterized" some aspects of its story about Palestinian mothers being separated from their babies in the Israel-Hamas war.

The Nov. 17 article, "Israel's war with Hamas separates Palestinian babies from their mothers," described how Israel gave mothers with high-risk pregnancies from Gaza a special permit to travel to Israel to receive potentially life-saving treatment for themselves and their babies. The previous version of the story stated that Israeli rules forced all mothers to travel back to Gaza to renew their permits if their newborns stayed in the hospital for longer than a few weeks."

" The Post editor's note also confessed it had failed to ask for comment from Israeli officials for the article, which "fell short" of its "standards for fairness."

"In addition, The Post neglected to seek comment from Israeli officials for this article, an omission that fell short of The Post's standards for fairness," the paper stated."
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I think it is relevant that O7 (not the reaction to it by Israel) motivated this American citizen to travel to Kenya to attempt to provide similar acts of jihad;



Hamas is apparently demanding a '20 to 30 day' ceasefire in exchange for releasing the remaining hostages. Some of them:



Israel is really going at the Iranians supplying/leading hezbollah etc. in Lebanon/Syria:

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Eleven leaders of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) were killed in an airstrike targeting Damascus International Airport on Thursday evening, Saudi media reported the following morning.

The commander of the Revolutionary Guards in eastern Syria, Nur Rashid, was injured in the airstrike, Saudi media channel Al-Hadath reported.

IRGC commanders were reportedly at the airport to meet with high-ranking delegates.

IRGC spokesman Sardar Ramzan Sharif denied on Friday reports that 11 of its leaders were killed in an airstrike in Damascus International Airport the night before, Iranian media quoted them as saying, as he said that such claims are "baseless."

Other strikes on Syria this week, foreign media also claims were done by Israel

Syrian media also claimed on Thursday evening that Israel had targeted sites in southern Syria and near Damascus with airstrikes in two separate waves. Syrian air defenses were activated in the Damascus area during the strikes. The country's media quoted one Syrian military source as saying that the alleged airstrike carried out by Israel came from the "occupied Syrian Golan Heights."








I haven't seen any evidence/documentation as to Israeli control in Gaza changing on the map over the past 3 to 5 days. If someone has an update on that please let us know, thx.
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Israel says it's ready to let ships bring aid to Gaza.

This means that Israel has sufficient ground control to keep supplies from being redirected through Hamas.

There's just one Hamas battalion in the north of the Gaza Strip that is still fighting, the rest have been dismantled.
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That doesn't mean there aren't pockets of terrorists, but they're not organized at the battalion level anymore.

Hopefully, the other big issue of air strikes will begin a prolonged ceasefire as well. And that terrorism and war acts can be negotiated in the prosecution of 30 thousand Hamas soldiers.

That is probably a good thing.

The cargo will be inspected in Cyprus, presumably by Israeli inspectors. Makes sense to have the possibility of aid being delivered by neutral third-party countries who just generally want to address the humanitarian catastrophe without being particularly sympathetic to Hamas.

UNRWA does some absolutely necessary work, but since they hire locally it's pretty much impossible not to have a lot of people in the organization who have very strong opinions about the conflict.

There's probably some risk the ship could get attacked by Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad for whatever reason (like Iran bribed them to do it), though I think Netanyahu would be delighted if it happened.
Has everyone just lost interest in this war too? This seems like it's going to continue to be a big impact on global trade/politics this half.








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This war will be ongoing thru out the year. Israel will continue to hit Hezbolla to weaken it. Keep hitting Iran proxies. As long as Hamas still is able to fire rockets keep pounding them. Tell those Anti Semite friends of yalls to pound sand. I have a few aquaintainces that wont admit what Hamas did was wrong. Both sides. Far left and far right aquaintancies. Pick sides now and stick with it.
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If people have lost interest then that is likely good for Israel because that means they can handle what they need to without worrying about nonstop pro-Hamas media outrage.
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YouBet said:

If people have lost interest then that is likely good for Israel because that means they can handle what they need to without worrying about nonstop pro-Hamas media outrage.
I agree. The world has a very short attention span. Once people start to look the other way that is when the IDF can really get nasty. Would not want to be an hamas POW.
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One hates to see all of the "humanitarian aide" tunnels going up in smoke.

Maybe we can give Hamas more "humanitarian aide" to build more tunnels.

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People will wind up being forced to care/pay attention, imho.

I have no idea if this map is even something resembling a truth at some point in the past 6 months, let alone if Iranians are for some reason clearing out of eastern Syria, but I do think the reality is that it's an exceptionally complex situation, and it is possible we agreed not to blast Yemen/Houthi's in exchange for Iran clearing out of part of Syria.



Again, I am not saying I know anything specific or believe this source, but 'things' are undoubtedly happening we just have no clue about, involving the arab countries, Russia, Iran, Israel, China etc.
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Thousands of Israeli soldiers are being shifted out of the Gaza Strip, the military said Monday, in the first significant drawdown of troops since the war began as forces continued to bear down on the main city in the southern half of the enclave.

The troop movement could signal that fighting is being scaled back in some areas of Gaza, particularly in the northern half where the military has said it is close to assuming operational control.

Israel has been under pressure from its chief ally, the United States, to begin to switch to lower-intensity fighting.

Word of the drawdown came ahead of a visit by Secretary of State Antony Blinken to the region and after the Biden administration bypassed Congress for the second time this month to approve an emergency weapons sale to Israel.

But fierce fighting continued in other areas of Gaza, especially the southern city Khan Younis and central areas of the territory.
Give them a rest before redeploying towards Lebanon?

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Looks like Iran sent a 55+ year old frigate to the Red. It carries 8 anti ship missiles, not sure what their proven capability is, but they are kickoffs of a Chinese model. At what point do they stop performing command and control or targeting and launch?

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-780289
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aggiehawg said:

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Thousands of Israeli soldiers are being shifted out of the Gaza Strip, the military said Monday, in the first significant drawdown of troops since the war began as forces continued to bear down on the main city in the southern half of the enclave.

The troop movement could signal that fighting is being scaled back in some areas of Gaza, particularly in the northern half where the military has said it is close to assuming operational control.

Israel has been under pressure from its chief ally, the United States, to begin to switch to lower-intensity fighting.

Word of the drawdown came ahead of a visit by Secretary of State Antony Blinken to the region and after the Biden administration bypassed Congress for the second time this month to approve an emergency weapons sale to Israel.

But fierce fighting continued in other areas of Gaza, especially the southern city Khan Younis and central areas of the territory.
Give them a rest before redeploying towards Lebanon?

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That would be my guess.
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LMCane said:


Every one of those things could have been boobytrapped. Brave mofos.
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this is insane the stories of the freed hostages..

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For every time the Hamas supporters whine about "innocent doctors"...

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live reports from 2 January operations

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Commander Yarden Shukrun

a female CO of basically a combat unit in Gaza right now

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aggiehawg said:

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Thousands of Israeli soldiers are being shifted out of the Gaza Strip, the military said Monday, in the first significant drawdown of troops since the war began as forces continued to bear down on the main city in the southern half of the enclave.

The troop movement could signal that fighting is being scaled back in some areas of Gaza, particularly in the northern half where the military has said it is close to assuming operational control.

Israel has been under pressure from its chief ally, the United States, to begin to switch to lower-intensity fighting.

Word of the drawdown came ahead of a visit by Secretary of State Antony Blinken to the region and after the Biden administration bypassed Congress for the second time this month to approve an emergency weapons sale to Israel.

But fierce fighting continued in other areas of Gaza, especially the southern city Khan Younis and central areas of the territory.
Give them a rest before redeploying towards Lebanon?

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Ideally West Bank then Lebanon. At some point Turkey and Jordan need to feel some pain for their conduct on the world stage too, but revenge is a dish best served cold.
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Yeah, **** Jordan. Queen Rania can piss off with all of her moral equivocation and criticism of Israel while her own country won't take a single palestinian because they know damn good and well how cancerous they are.
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