Israel/Hamas going at it

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More good news today- senior deputy taken out

"Salah al-Arouri, the deputy of Haniyeh has been eliminated, now he is in hell... Soon all of you, Hamas, each and every one of you"

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This is some awesome video.

You can see in Hebrew (red) that it states "Mechabel Chasul" which is "terrorist eliminated"

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Headlines read "<<terrorist leader>> Killed in Explosion in Beirut"

Buried in a paragraph is that the "explosion" was caused by an Israeli drone strike. I guess it's politically incorrect to actually state that Israel got them some big targets.


Edit to correct "target" to the more correct plural "targets"
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The IDF may have just taken out 3 top leaders of Hamas in one strike

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Hezbollah leader with speech tomorrow.
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Bet the Hamas top brass that are left are not sleeping very soundly. Good riddance you vile filth.

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If I were them I would be hoping that they drop a bomb on me. If mossad has to get creative to get them, it's going to be slow and ve4y painful.
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Do we believe this reported 22k civilian deaths in Gaza that I keep seeing?
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redline248 said:

Do we believe this reported 22k civilian deaths in Gaza that I keep seeing?
No. Next question.
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txags92 said:

redline248 said:

Do we believe this reported 22k civilian deaths in Gaza that I keep seeing?
No. Next question.
Where can I find a more accurate number?
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redline248 said:

txags92 said:

redline248 said:

Do we believe this reported 22k civilian deaths in Gaza that I keep seeing?
No. Next question.
Where can I find a more accurate number?
You can't, its impossible.
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redline248 said:

txags92 said:

redline248 said:

Do we believe this reported 22k civilian deaths in Gaza that I keep seeing?
No. Next question.
Where can I find a more accurate number?
Doubt there's anybody that knows the true number and if it exists would be unlikely to share it. You would be just as well off to make one up yourself. Take the hamas number and divide by pi. Or maybe take the IDF number and multiply by the square root of 2. Or just make a WAG and it will have as much credibility as any number you're going to find.
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Thanks, I was surprised when someone brought that up to me tonight. I said "I don't believe that's accurate," but that's the only thing that shows up on "news" websites.

I haven't even seen what Israel has reported
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Build It said:

This is not good news for the Lebanese people.
Jordan fought a civil war to kick out the Palestinians, and Lebanon should have done the same thing.
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redline248 said:

Thanks, I was surprised when someone brought that up to me tonight. I said "I don't believe that's accurate," but that's the only thing that shows up on "news" websites.

I haven't even seen what Israel has reported


When any news source says, "according to gaza officials," what they really mean is, "according to hamas." The number is likely much lower than what is reported considering they said 500 were killed when the hospital was "destroyed" by the Israeli Islamic jihad rocket that landed in the parking lot and did nothing. It also probably includes their civilian "martyrs" running around with weapons and trying to kill Israeli troops
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redline248 said:

txags92 said:

redline248 said:

Do we believe this reported 22k civilian deaths in Gaza that I keep seeing?
No. Next question.
Where can I find a more accurate number?
As was said above, you can't. Not the least of which is because it is impossible to define what is a "civilian" in a place where 80+% actively support the terrorists being pursued. It is also hindered by the fact that there are no unbiased journalists allowed anywhere near where any such civilians would be brought and counted. Only Hamas and Hamas approved stringers like those employed by Reuters, CNN, and AP would be allowed near where any bodies would be brought. They are going to repeat whatever number they are told by Hamas because they will be killed and lose their access if they don't.

So understanding that any number reported by Hamas or Hamas affiliated news stringers will be inflated for dramatic purposes and that any number reported by Hamas includes a high number of Hamas fighters and civilians who were likely supporting and/or helping those fighters, it is clear that any number they come up with is hopelessly biased high. And any number anybody else comes up with is going to be based on nothing but a guess because nobody else has the access necessary to make any kind of accurate estimate.

Theoretically, the UN should have somebody with that access and ability to be unbiased, but they don't. The UNRWA has been exposed for their collusion, cooperation, and support for Hamas during this Israeli operation, and nothing the UN says regarding Hamas or Gaza should be believed or trusted. They are a tool of Hamas.
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Maybe a big deal. IDF captures key intelligence center in the Hamas 'military district.'

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And today, the IDF captured a key Hamas intel center in northern Gaza, on the outskirts of Gaza City, ending a battle that had "gone on for weeks," according to the Jerusalem Post. The loss of this asset will likely blind Hamas in the north, and any intel captured in the seizure may well spell the end of Hamas leaders in the south or force them to flee:
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The IDF has completed its takeover of the second most important Hamas intelligence center in northern Gaza, as it finishes ousting the terror group from its last spot in Daraj-Tuffah. …
After the Hamas intelligence center found near the Gaza City military quarter, this intelligence center is considered the most important in northern Gaza, including 37 structures, a vast tunnel network dropping 20 meters underground, three tunnel elevators, extensive stairs, and blast doors.
Moreover, the complex included a diverse array of communications platforms which allowed directing the war with Hamas forces both in northern and southern Gaza as opposed to other command center positions focused merely on a specific more narrow area.
The very fact that Hamas fought to defend this position for weeks even while abandoning other parts of northern Gaza speaks to the value of this victory. The battle exposed an elaborate tunnel system connected to at least one mosque and one school, as well as the Rantisi Hospital. Hamas used these assets to coordinate sophisticated attacks for the last several weeks and lost hundreds of terror operatives in the process. According to the Post, the IDF also captured Hamas' chief tunnel digger for this complex and got enough intel out of him to doom Hamas' defense efforts, a point that will no doubt give the remaining operational centers even more worries when the Israelis start showing up outside their positions.
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Gazans to Congo?
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"This rhetoric is inflammatory and irresponsible," State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said.


Well, is also true, so suck it up, buttercup. They have to go.
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notex said:

Gazans to Congo?
Good plan. Israel will have the entire Sahara Desert separating them from the Gaza expellees.
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Israel is serious about addressing this issue then. They know they can no longer leave Gaza to fester and since the people there refuse to live in peace they need to go instead of raising another generation of Hamas
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notex said:

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According to the Post, the IDF also captured Hamas' chief tunnel digger for this complex and got enough intel out of him to doom Hamas' defense efforts, a point that will no doubt give the remaining operational centers even more worries when the Israelis start showing up outside their positions.

I hope they used every nefarious method possible to extract the information. But he probably sang like a bird once he was cuffed and put under the bright light.

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Lital Shemesh is unbelievably gorgeous and was just reporting from Gaza City last week.
Looks like someone gave her a present while she was there!

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follow the red circle
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LMCane said:


Now that's how you take out a terrorist. Israel isn't going to stop until every last leader in Hamas is dead.

I am thankful they are sticking to their plan and doing the dirty work the rest of the civilized world is afraid to do.
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Quote:

What's known, and what remains unclear, about the deadly explosions in Iran

Authorities say the twin bombings killed at least 103 people and wounded 211 others.

The attack is the deadliest to strike Iran since its 1979 Islamic Revolution.

The second explosion occurred about 20 minutes after the first, which is often a technique used by militants to harm both civilians and emergency responders after an initial assault.

The attack came during commemorations for the fourth anniversary of the killing of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the head of the Revolutionary Guard's elite Quds Force, in a U.S. drone strike in neighboring Iraq. The explosions occurred near his grave site as long lines of people gathered for the event.

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack in Kerman.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-s-known-and-what-remains-unclear-about-the-deadly-explosions-in-iran/ar-AA1mpPKb
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redline248 said:

Thanks, I was surprised when someone brought that up to me tonight. I said "I don't believe that's accurate," but that's the only thing that shows up on "news" websites.

I haven't even seen what Israel has reported
For them its a matter of defining civilian...were they holding a rifle and wearing a uniform when counted, no. Their camrade had already assumed the use of their rifle. So theyre a civilian now
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

redline248 said:

Thanks, I was surprised when someone brought that up to me tonight. I said "I don't believe that's accurate," but that's the only thing that shows up on "news" websites.

I haven't even seen what Israel has reported
For them its a matter of defining civilian...were they holding a rifle and wearing a uniform when counted, no. Their camrade had already assumed the use of their rifle. So theyre a civilian now

it's more than that.

Not only is the "Gaza Health Ministry" just a bunch of Hamas workers who have an incentive to lie.

in reality, IT IS A WAR ZONE

where the IDF spent weeks telling everyone to evacuate.

how on earth would the "Gaza Healthy Ministry" know how many bodies are buried in a building when there are no civilians anywhere within Gaza City for the last 6 weeks?

have you seen 18,000 corpses laid out? has anyone seen this?

why is it that Israel has to prove a tunnel is under a hospital- but the "Gaza Health Ministry" is quoted in every newspaper around the world?

why is it 18,000 dead? why not 26,000 dead? why not 260,000 dead? because no one has seen any of these dead.
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I want to write a screenplay about this all female tank unit but what are the odds it would ever be made in Hollywood?

Noa Tishby is amazing:

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