There is a real possibility that Israel will blow the hospital. With Hamas using it, it is a legit military target and they know they are getting blamed for it anyway.Not a Bot said:
There is a real possibility Hamas will blow the hospital. Everyone would blame Israel.
Israel/Hamas going at it
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Things have been moving further south seems like. Popping of for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/live/oqLav6DV1iY?si=mB1k2iEFH6KLS1Ul
https://www.youtube.com/live/oqLav6DV1iY?si=mB1k2iEFH6KLS1Ul
Erdogan threatens to declare war on Israel. Might also be meeting with Iran.
81MM* FJB
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1829092/Erdogan-Turkey-Israel-war-Gaza/amp
81MM* FJB
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1829092/Erdogan-Turkey-Israel-war-Gaza/amp
Hezbollah-tied media also released this poster - which does not seem to include today's notice mentioned above, and (if I am not mistaken) would thus mean 50 members of the group have died to so far. pic.twitter.com/K1jUeYrnIh
— Michael A. Horowitz (@michaelh992) November 2, 2023
Hamas announces the death of "Hamdan Omar Hamdan" who was wounded during the clashes with IDF ๐ฎ๐ฑ in Nablus in the last Monday and died today.
— Aleph ื (@no_itsmyturn) November 2, 2023
Hamdan was 14 years old.
Hamdan was a child-militant who was recruited by Hamas terror organization. pic.twitter.com/gjUfpwkdez
#Gaza map update:#Israel has continued to advance towards the coast, south of Gaza city. They are less than 800 metres away from cutting Gaza in two.
— War Mapper (@War_Mapper) November 1, 2023
They have also made progress along the coast to the north, as well as advancing within Beit Hanoun pic.twitter.com/znJea882GN
He should be kicked out of NATO if he does.TRADUCTOR said:
Erdogan threatens to declare war on Israel. Might also be meeting with Iran.
81MM* FJB
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1829092/Erdogan-Turkey-Israel-war-Gaza/amp
Interesting if true.
The Iranians and their proxies are absolutely detested by most all of the arab side of things, I believe, though generally only behind closed doors (when juxtaposed with anti-Israel etc.)
Also, this would I believe be the first (confirmed) combat employment of an F-35?
BREAKING:
— Megatron (@Megatron_ron) November 2, 2023
Jordan and Saudi Arabia informed Yemen that it will not allow its airspace to be used against Israel.
On the other hand, these two countries have given the green light for Israeli warplanes to use their airspace, including for attacks on Yemen. pic.twitter.com/zqhXiJM7F1
The Iranians and their proxies are absolutely detested by most all of the arab side of things, I believe, though generally only behind closed doors (when juxtaposed with anti-Israel etc.)
Also, this would I believe be the first (confirmed) combat employment of an F-35?
"The systems followed the trajectory of the cruise missile and launched fighter jets from the "Adir" formation, which successfully intercepted it."
— Evergreen Intel (@vcdgf555) November 2, 2023
EDIT: "Adir formation" is from ๐ฎ๐ฑ IAF's Adir Division which now consists of 3 squadrons (116, 117, 140) of F-35I Adirs. https://t.co/FbrbsapoGQ
Seen this before,about Iran being so hated by its neighbors. I know why we do, but why the neighbors?
Aust Ag said:
Seen this before,about Iran being so hated by its neighbors. I know why we do, but why the neighbors?
I suppose you can compare it to the small guy going to the bar with a bunch of friends that are all much bigger than him and starting **** with other big guys when it's not necessary and then expecting his bigger friends to bake him out.
Persian vs Arabs (they're not the same) and Sunni vs Shia are the 2 biggest reasons.Aust Ag said:
Seen this before,about Iran being so hated by its neighbors. I know why we do, but why the neighbors?
Sunni Vs Shia Islam and a fight over which branch are the legitimate form of the religion.
Also, on a more pragmatic front, Iran is bigtime into terrorism and political destabilization in the region and the rest of the nations they haven't already thrown into chaos much prefer remaining stable and making oil money.
Also, on a more pragmatic front, Iran is bigtime into terrorism and political destabilization in the region and the rest of the nations they haven't already thrown into chaos much prefer remaining stable and making oil money.
Most of their neighbors are Sunnis and the Iranians are Shia. The Iranian Mullahs hate the Sunnis almost as much as they hate the Israelis and have funded and trained proxies to cause trouble with most of their Sunni neighbors. The Saudis, Jordanians, etc. see them as a destabilizing influence in the middle east as a whole and in some cases a direct threat to their own domestic stability.Aust Ag said:
Seen this before,about Iran being so hated by its neighbors. I know why we do, but why the neighbors?
The Persians (Iran) have traditionally looked down on the Arabs as sort of the poor country bumpkin relations - this has been going on for centuries.Aust Ag said:
Seen this before,about Iran being so hated by its neighbors. I know why we do, but why the neighbors?
imagine if there were 10,000 American hostages being held in tunnels in Nuevo Laredo and what the United States Army would be doing about it.
F-35 Adir has been used in combat by the IAF for years now dropping bombs on Syria and Lebanon and Gaza Strip
what is very strange about that battle map is that we have literally seen with our own eyes IDF tanks and troops surrounded by large buildings in Gaza
and yet on the map they are showing IDF forces in mostly sand dunes and unpopulated areas. I don't think it is correct.
and yet on the map they are showing IDF forces in mostly sand dunes and unpopulated areas. I don't think it is correct.
so there is at least one righteous woman in Gaza:
A mother cries over the body of her son who was killed in an Israeli airstrike against Gaza.
— Visegrรกd 24 (@visegrad24) November 2, 2023
She sees a journalistโs camera and screams โthis all happened because of those Hamas dogsโ.
A โrescue-workerโ grabs her face and tells her to โshut upโ pic.twitter.com/HOrpQ82LZC
It doesnโt take an elite education to work out that abducting babies is wrong.
— Eylon Levy (@EylonALevy) November 2, 2023
It takes an elite education to find excuses for it. https://t.co/TozMXlyGc7
I'm guessing it's intentional misdirection of some sort.LMCane said:
what is very strange about that battle map is that we have literally seen with our own eyes IDF tanks and troops surrounded by large buildings in Gaza
and yet on the map they are showing IDF forces in mostly sand dunes and unpopulated areas. I don't think it is correct.
I found it difficult to visit a scene of mass murder
— leekern (@leekern13) November 2, 2023
But the truth of Hamas has to be known
They threw in grenades to kill children
That was their goal
It still is pic.twitter.com/Ik9h6CInRt
Israel needs to fully eradicate Hamas. Our prayers are with innocent on both side but evil must be searched out and destroyed and that is what is happening.
But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to herself
Chip Roy
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to herself
Chip Roy
โ ๏ธWARNING: DISTURBING!โ ๏ธ
— Eylon Levy (@EylonALevy) November 1, 2023
Hamas cut a little girl's hand off.
She bled to death.
There will be no ceasefire with this evil.
via @TheLeadCNN
pic.twitter.com/qt40dZNnuQ
I worry about the IDF dogs as Hamas really hates canines
๐ฎ๐ฑ IDF troops confronted several terrorist cells in the northern Gaza Strip during which dozens of terrorists were killed.
— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) November 2, 2023
Read more at: https://t.co/NfQ0IKXmjr pic.twitter.com/ygJ8fkXxKK
As the grandfather of a little girl about that age, this video account is heartbreaking. The cruelty it would take to do something like that is inconceivable. Literally makes me sick to my stomach.LMCane said:โ ๏ธWARNING: DISTURBING!โ ๏ธ
— Eylon Levy (@EylonALevy) November 1, 2023
Hamas cut a little girl's hand off.
She bled to death.
There will be no ceasefire with this evil.
via @TheLeadCNN
pic.twitter.com/qt40dZNnuQ
Hamas are modern day Nazis. They have to be ended.
I take the map as showing control, not areas they are operating but areas they control fully.LMCane said:
what is very strange about that battle map is that we have literally seen with our own eyes IDF tanks and troops surrounded by large buildings in Gaza
and yet on the map they are showing IDF forces in mostly sand dunes and unpopulated areas. I don't think it is correct.
If the goal is to cut off the north and create a containment zone that makes a "safe" south and a hostile north the map makes sense. Push across, then block tunnels that would run north/south and allow retreat with "innocent civilians" and then start working back up north. This prevents them from having anywhere to run and be contained to the north by the Israeli border walls
I case any of you did not realize, the best live stream we've had so far is back up and running, AudioNix.
BeautifulLMCane said:
Wonder how Hamas is storing their diesel?
Wonder if it's one large tank for each tunnel network. Maybe up a little higher than their lower positions to create a little centrifugal force for the fuel to flow to the generators?
Wish there was a way to scan for them and try to blow them up or somethingโฆ
Wonder if it's one large tank for each tunnel network. Maybe up a little higher than their lower positions to create a little centrifugal force for the fuel to flow to the generators?
Wish there was a way to scan for them and try to blow them up or somethingโฆ
Given some of the fires I've seen on live cams after hits, I'm thinking Israel has nailed a few of their storage tanks.TheGreatEscape said:
Wonder how Hamas is storing their diesel?
Wonder if it's one large tank for each tunnel network. Maybe up a little higher than their lower positions to create a little centrifugal force for the fuel to flow to the generators?
Wish there was a way to scan for them and try to blow them up or somethingโฆ
Cannot verify, of course.
notice how many children you can hear 24 hours a day on these live video feeds from Gaza
no matter how many times the IDF drops leaflets begging civilians to move South.
no matter how many times the IDF drops leaflets begging civilians to move South.
Maybe Hamas was directing everyone to the side opposite of the leaflet suggestions and warnings? Or just ignored them?
Sorry if I'm clogging up the boardโฆbutโฆ
Does anyone know if the IDF was watching from above what houses or buildings large amounts of food and supplies went to when the Egyptians delivered them? May have led to tunnel entry discoveries?
Does anyone know if the IDF was watching from above what houses or buildings large amounts of food and supplies went to when the Egyptians delivered them? May have led to tunnel entry discoveries?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/02/us/politics/biden-israel-gaza-fighting-pause.html
Israel is under pressure at home from the relatives of the hostages, and to a lesser extent (because it doesn't have much weight) from the PR onslaught abroad. Israel can continue its targeted strategy, while still being able to say it's allowing humanitarian relief for the citizens that evacuated in the South - while at the same time placating hostage families and allowing Israel to say its doing its best to get them out (both militarily and diplomatically). As long as Hamas dribbles out hostages each time there is a brief pause along with limited humanitarian relief, Israel can have its cake and eat it too (keeping the pressure on Hamas with only brief pauses, while still getting some of the hostages out).
We'll see if that's how it plays out. Israel is of course free to chart whatever path it sees fit.
I think this strategy would benefit Israel on multiple fronts since it doesn't appear to be ready to launch an all out invasion.Quote:
Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will urge the Israeli government to agree to a series of brief cessations of military operations in Gaza to allow for hostages to be released safely and for humanitarian aid to be distributed, White House officials said on Thursday.
. . .
Israel is under pressure at home from the relatives of the hostages, and to a lesser extent (because it doesn't have much weight) from the PR onslaught abroad. Israel can continue its targeted strategy, while still being able to say it's allowing humanitarian relief for the citizens that evacuated in the South - while at the same time placating hostage families and allowing Israel to say its doing its best to get them out (both militarily and diplomatically). As long as Hamas dribbles out hostages each time there is a brief pause along with limited humanitarian relief, Israel can have its cake and eat it too (keeping the pressure on Hamas with only brief pauses, while still getting some of the hostages out).
We'll see if that's how it plays out. Israel is of course free to chart whatever path it sees fit.
Israel claims another 130 terrorists killed in gun battles on this day and more attacks on their networks
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— ืืืืจ ืฆืืดื ืื ืืื ืืืจื - Daniel Hagari (@IDFSpokesperson) November 2, 2023
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