Israel/Hamas going at it

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At this point in history, the Israel Defense Forces are larger than the military of the United Kingdom

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it's extremely encouraging and nearly miraculous

that the IDF has entered Gaza three nights in a row with Zero casualties.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

A foam bomb to seal in underground combatants rather than spelunkiung and dealing with them?


It's useful tactically, block some tunnels ( at least temporarily) and focus on others. It's one less tunnel that a terrorist can pop out of

The material is extremely hazardous to handle
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P.H. Dexippus said:

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listen to this tough guy living in a mansion in Qatar calling for Palestinian women to sacrifice their blood to annihilate Israel. Leader of Hamas (until he is soon taken out)


I'd like to see Israel pluck those Hamas leaders out of their cushy accommodations in Qatar, since the world apparently condones cross-border hostage taking these days.
No need to waste a precision bomb on this trash either, as Qatar is harboring his garbage ass they can suffer some collateral damage as well. Those that harbor terrorists, die with terrorists.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Can't believe Mossad hasn't erased him by now.
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There's no reason to risk a wider conflagration until they are done in Gaza, at least with active operations. Let him return afterward, on their terms, and then wipe him out, whether it is in 3 months or 6.



Bringing a military strike, anyway, to Qatar/Iran/UAE etc. right now probably isn't worth the strategic risk. Those countries harbor plenty of enemies/targets, but are also happy to let the Israeli's eliminate Hamas as a practical matter, and could care less of course about the 'Palestinians' in the Gaza Strip as well.

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Rossticus said:




At the VERY least, all foreign aid--every single penny--to all those countries voting no or abstaining should be withheld indefinitely. There's really no better indication that their mentality is incompatible with civilized society if they cannot condemn the events of 10/7 and demand the release of all hostages.
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Second video is nothing but an Israeli Top Gun knock off sans sex and volleyball and I'm not the least bit sad.
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The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians
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Agthatbuilds said:



The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians


That's pretty telling right there
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zgolfz85 said:

Agthatbuilds said:



The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians


That's pretty telling right there
Their liars, don't trust them
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zgolfz85 said:

Agthatbuilds said:



The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians


That's pretty telling right there
Assuming it is Hamas very close ties to Iran. Taliban and Iran hate each other.
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Sunni vs Shia?
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Elon will provide internet.

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Bad Elon, people should have got out while they could
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Player To Be Named Later said:

Sunni vs Shia?
The basis of it for sure. But they also have had a series of bad border clashes of the last few years as well. Fighters on both sides have died.
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Player To Be Named Later said:

Sunni vs Shia?

Interesting point. Which makes me wonder why iran is helping the sunni palestinians. Guessing that it's because iran hates Israel so much that they're willing to aid sunnis and the palestinians can't get anybody else to help them?
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Agthatbuilds said:



The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians


That's a 180 from earlier reports when they were asking permission from countries to travel there.
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agent-maroon said:

Player To Be Named Later said:

Sunni vs Shia?

Interesting point. Which makes me wonder why iran is helping the sunni palestinians. Guessing that it's because iran hates Israel so much that they're willing to aid sunnis and the palestinians can't get anybody else to help them?


It has become pretty apparent that the Palestinians are just useful idiots for the Arab world.

Hell, there's no "P" in Arabic.
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YouBet said:

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The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians


That's a 180 from earlier reports when they were asking permission from countries to travel there.

Maybe the muslim world has figured out what is coming to gaza and they will choose martyrdom another day
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agent-maroon said:

Player To Be Named Later said:

Sunni vs Shia?

Interesting point. Which makes me wonder why iran is helping the sunni palestinians. Guessing that it's because iran hates Israel so much that they're willing to aid sunnis and the palestinians can't get anybody else to help them?


Their goal is not to help them. Their goal is to force Israel to react the way they did, which put peace talks with the Arab world on ice. Iran does not want to see a united Arab/Israeli world because that puts a huge check on their influence in the region. They particularly do not want Israel to have normal relations with Saudi Arabia. The Saudis, if allowed to both economically develop beyond oil and to obtain more mitary support, would be the biggest check on Iran in the region. Israel would undoubtedly help them do both.

Just like most countries Iran sees the writing on the wall and knows the US is not going to be there en masse like they used to be. The new security situation is developing and Iran wants to be a power player. To achieve this goal, they need a fractured Arab community.

They also want to put a regional check on Turkey, whom they are not exactly friends with, either. An unstable Syria and Lebanon creates a buffer around Turkey just as much as it does Israel.
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BQ78 said:

Bad Elon, people should have got out while they could


How?
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Elon or Gazans?

Letting Hamas communicate is a mistake

Not getting out of Gaza the moment Hamas starts parading hostages and bodies through the streets is a mistake.

Actually staying there under Hamas for the last 13 years says they sympathize, otherwise they should have moved to more sane West Bank
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I don't think you understand the premise of getting out of Gaza for people without foreign citizenship
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BQ78 said:

Elon or Gazans?

Letting Hamas communicate is a mistake

Not getting out of Gaza the moment Hamas starts parading hostages and bodies through the streets is a mistake.
Voting in Hamas to run your life was the first mistake, not taking the 2 state solutions they were offered several times over the decades is also a mistake.
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Getting spicy
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zgolfz85 said:

Agthatbuilds said:



The Muslim world really doesn't like hamas/Palestinians


That's pretty telling right there
They showed up big at the Palestine rallies in London today.
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Bring it boys

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Saw a report that hostage negotiations are ongoing. If Israel's stated goal is to destroy Hamas, why would Hamas release hostages. Israel isn't going to let Hamas exist because 250 hostages were released. I don't see what's the point of negotiating for either side.
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Dan Scott said:

Saw a report that hostage negotiations are ongoing. If Israel's stated goal is to destroy Hamas, why would Hamas release hostages. Israel isn't going to let Hamas exist because 250 hostages were released. I don't see what's the point of negotiating for either side.


Who knows what they'd even give to Hamas in exchange but of course they want to successfully rescue hostages if there's a chance
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