I think he is saying that the Palestinians cleaned up all the debris from their rocket so you couldn't tell it was friendly fire. Normally you would find pieces of the munition, but somebody went around and cleaned it all up to get rid of themagent-maroon said:Pardon me if I'm being thick, but could you explain what the specific concern is with the missing documentation and munition debris?Rossticus said:This is the one thing that rings alarm bells for me, the lack of documentation of the munition debris is unusual, and the longer it takes to emerge in circumstances like this, the louder those alarm bells ring. https://t.co/NrOqvFgj7L
— Eliot Higgins (@EliotHiggins) October 22, 2023
Faustus said:Wiki had cites on point.No Spin Ag said:
I haven't followed this thread in a while, but does anyone know if the women in the IDF will be on the front lines when Israel goes into Gaza?
I ask because I know they're required to serve like the men, and they can always be seen in social media clips wearing their uniforms, without or without a weapon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Israel_Defense_ForcesQuote:
Clause 16A of the Israeli Defense Service Law requires that all conscripted female combat soldiers serve active-duty for 2 years and 4 months, and in reserve until the age of 38. Each year, 1,500 female soldiers are drafted into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Women were employed in full combat roles during the 19471949 Palestine War; incidents involving the abuse of female soldiers' corpses by Arab troops led to the Israeli cabinet's decision to withdraw women from frontline combat until 2000, when the Caracal Battalion was raised.
In 2014, the IDF appointed Oshrat Bacher as the first female commander of a combat battalion.
The most notable combat option for women is the light-infantry Caracal Battalion, in which women comprise 70 percent of the troop strength. There are two other mixed-sex infantry battalions: the Lions of Jordan Battalion and the Bardelas Battalion.[citation needed] The Oketz, an IDF canine unit, also drafts women as combat soldiers. Women are also allowed to join the Combat Intelligence Collection Corps, and to serve as search-and-rescue personnel in the IDF's Home Front Command. Women are allowed to serve as tank crews in the Border Defense Array, composed of units that guard the borders of Israel with Egypt and Jordan.
Despite being officially classified as combat soldiers, women in combat roles are not explicitly deployed into combat situations. They are expected to respond in the event a combat situation does erupt, but are not deployed to areas where there is a high risk of combat. The three mixed-sex infantry battalions and female-crewed tanks are deployed to border patrol duties and security duties in the Jordan Valley, and female soldiers are barred from joining the frontline combat brigades that are deployed in the event of war.
She’s 3.
— AIPAC | Text ISRAEL to 24722 | #StandWithIsrael (@AIPAC) October 22, 2023
Hamas kidnapped Yahel to Gaza.
She’s 3. pic.twitter.com/PsVSPJXoum
“An elite unit of Israeli agents has been formed to hunt down every Hamas terrorist involved in the heinous Oct. 7 sneak attack on the Jewish state, according to reports.”https://t.co/Iw4MwIbnGC
— James A. Gagliano (@JamesAGagliano) October 22, 2023
Dude, just delete this already. https://t.co/LEbW35B3vv
— Rita Panahi (@RitaPanahi) October 22, 2023
Watch: Victoria Coates shares her thoughts on the Israeli ground incursion and American hostages https://t.co/lfVFISHTN6
— John Solomon (@jsolomonReports) October 22, 2023
I wonder if they sent any submarines.45-70Ag said:JUST IN: China has reportedly deployed multiple warships to the Middle East region after the United States deployed two carrier strike groups.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 22, 2023
Up to 6 Chinese warships were reportedly deployed including two advanced 052D destroyers.
The news comes as the United States has… pic.twitter.com/gkFHjTyaQO
Yes and no. Complicated.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
JB99 said:zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
I guess what I'm asking is if Israel declares war on Hezbollah does that imply they are at war with Lebanon? Is Hezbollah a military wing of Lebanon? I've heard they are more alligned with Iran but I don't claim to really understand it. I mean if Lebanon allows them to station themselves in their country I would think that would make them complicit in whatever they do.
Hezbollah is a militia that is a proxy for Iran. They are part of the Lebanese government in that they have about 1/3 of the seats in their parliament and formed a coalition with a Christian party to govern the country. They are more powerful than the Lebanese army and operate outside of the control of the Lebanese government. They will do what Iran tells them and nobody in Lebanon is powerful enough to tell them not to.JB99 said:zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
I guess what I'm asking is if Israel declares war on Hezbollah does that imply they are at war with Lebanon? Is Hezbollah a military wing of Lebanon? I've heard they are more alligned with Iran but I don't claim to really understand it. I mean if Lebanon allows them to station themselves in their country I would think that would make them complicit in whatever they do.
Aggiehawg said it very eloquently... Yes/No/Complicated.JB99 said:zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
I guess what I'm asking is if Israel declares war on Hezbollah does that imply they are at war with Lebanon? Is Hezbollah a military wing of Lebanon? I've heard they are more alligned with Iran but I don't claim to really understand it. I mean if Lebanon allows them to station themselves in their country I would think that would make them complicit in whatever they do.
zephyr88 said:Aggiehawg said it very eloquently... Yes/No/Complicated.JB99 said:zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
I guess what I'm asking is if Israel declares war on Hezbollah does that imply they are at war with Lebanon? Is Hezbollah a military wing of Lebanon? I've heard they are more alligned with Iran but I don't claim to really understand it. I mean if Lebanon allows them to station themselves in their country I would think that would make them complicit in whatever they do.
Hezbollah aka the Party of God (Allah) is a unifier of radical Islam.
Israel is like the nice house in the middle of the hood.
At the end of the day, if Hazbollah, while residing in Lebanon (complacent landlord) while being funded by Iran (daddy), decides to kick this up a notch, it will be their muslim brothers who join arms against Israel. Israel, in turn, will be supported by the Christian nations of Europe and the West. With Russia and China on the sidelines, this is a bit of a tinderbox at the moment.
Lebanon is no friend of Israel, Lebanon is no friend of America...and sure as hell, Iran is in the same boat.JB99 said:Thanks for explaining. Sounds like Lebanon has no say in the matter.zephyr88 said:Aggiehawg said it very eloquently... Yes/No/Complicated.JB99 said:zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
I guess what I'm asking is if Israel declares war on Hezbollah does that imply they are at war with Lebanon? Is Hezbollah a military wing of Lebanon? I've heard they are more alligned with Iran but I don't claim to really understand it. I mean if Lebanon allows them to station themselves in their country I would think that would make them complicit in whatever they do.
Hezbollah aka the Party of God (Allah) is a unifier of radical Islam.
Israel is like the nice house in the middle of the hood.
At the end of the day, if Hazbollah, while residing in Lebanon (complacent landlord) while being funded by Iran (daddy), decides to kick this up a notch, it will be their muslim brothers who join arms against Israel. Israel, in turn, will be supported by the Christian nations of Europe and the West. With Russia and China on the sidelines, this is a bit of a tinderbox at the moment.
in addition to H&H there are prob another 10 factions. There is always a bunch more groups.BQ_90 said:
Hazbollah and Hamas are all funded by other muslin counties mostly Iran, but Qatar and others, so they don't have to directly fight Israel
FCBlitz said:in addition to H&H there are prob another 10 factions. There is always a bunch more groups.BQ_90 said:
Hazbollah and Hamas are all funded by other muslin counties mostly Iran, but Qatar and others, so they don't have to directly fight Israel
You know why there’s a camera set up, ready to record the strike? Because Israel warned everyone to evacuate. https://t.co/0NUkBBMrXd
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) October 23, 2023
In tears thinking of the horrors and also that even with this proof the October 7 Holocaust will be denied for the same reason Hitler's was--because they want to. https://t.co/XsGWK5yuWA
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) October 23, 2023
We did use that reasoning to go into Afghanistan to get AQ. So, perhaps Israel will use the same reasoning. Although the Afghan "government" was more nebulous than Lebanon's is...JB99 said:zephyr88 said:Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical, but yes and they have been since the mid-90's.JB99 said:
Is Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese government?
I guess what I'm asking is if Israel declares war on Hezbollah does that imply they are at war with Lebanon? Is Hezbollah a military wing of Lebanon? I've heard they are more alligned with Iran but I don't claim to really understand it. I mean if Lebanon allows them to station themselves in their country I would think that would make them complicit in whatever they do.
Yep. You live by the sword ...And you can damn well die by it. F* Hamasaezmvp said:
Oh hey a bomb took out a building. What do these people think? I guess they all think it's Fortnite or something. Ridiculous. Hamas invaded, committed atrocities against civilians and attacked bases. Well guess what? The reverse kind of sucks. Too freaking bad.
Sadly, this is the way. Israel cannot let the world forget, or worse, deny what happened on October 7th.nortex97 said:
Have you seen anything to indicate as much?
A lot of propaganda though…You know why there’s a camera set up, ready to record the strike? Because Israel warned everyone to evacuate. https://t.co/0NUkBBMrXd
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) October 23, 2023In tears thinking of the horrors and also that even with this proof the October 7 Holocaust will be denied for the same reason Hitler's was--because they want to. https://t.co/XsGWK5yuWA
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) October 23, 2023
The IDF attacked military infrastructure of the terrorist organization Hezbollah in Lebanon, said the IDF spokesperson on Sunday, including a military compound and an observation post used by the organization.https://t.co/jID9EQt5GN
— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) October 23, 2023
Ag87H2O said:Sadly, this is the way. Israel cannot let the world forget, or worse, deny what happened on October 7th.nortex97 said:
Have you seen anything to indicate as much?
A lot of propaganda though…You know why there’s a camera set up, ready to record the strike? Because Israel warned everyone to evacuate. https://t.co/0NUkBBMrXd
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) October 23, 2023In tears thinking of the horrors and also that even with this proof the October 7 Holocaust will be denied for the same reason Hitler's was--because they want to. https://t.co/XsGWK5yuWA
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) October 23, 2023
Hamas has to be ended as a viable terrorist threat.
They will go and watch, then wait to see what Hamas' response is and they will run with that and ignore what they saw with their own eyes.Catag94 said:Ag87H2O said:Sadly, this is the way. Israel cannot let the world forget, or worse, deny what happened on October 7th.nortex97 said:
Have you seen anything to indicate as much?
A lot of propaganda though…You know why there’s a camera set up, ready to record the strike? Because Israel warned everyone to evacuate. https://t.co/0NUkBBMrXd
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) October 23, 2023In tears thinking of the horrors and also that even with this proof the October 7 Holocaust will be denied for the same reason Hitler's was--because they want to. https://t.co/XsGWK5yuWA
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) October 23, 2023
Hamas has to be ended as a viable terrorist threat.
This should be interesting. I wonder how many will view and report on what they see.