They can materially impact traffic through the gulf and suez.

P.H. Dexippus said:

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think Israel should be investing in some of the land-based Phalanx guns to take on both aerial and land short range threats that Iron Dome cannot. Had they had a few of these stationed around the kibbutz targets on 10/7, the terrorists would've have gotten very far.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS

https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/ms-c-ram_lpws/

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Israel not restricting gun rights the last few years would also have helped, but they dropped the ball.

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FireAg said:

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My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...

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Then they may ultimately have miscalculated and be looking at a short term benefit that regresses into a long term liability for them. Further ramp up of US production capacity and an Israel who has a score to settle.

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And a flailing US economy can then benefit from US production ramp up...

It's not hard to connect the dots on all of this...globalists have been hard at work behind the scenes to set all of this in motion...

Houston Lee said:

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We are going to war IMO. Once IDF invades Gaza, our carrier groups will be drawn into action. All hell is about to break loose.

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Probably not.

nortex97 said:

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They can materially impact traffic through the gulf and suez.

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This is the issue IMO. Yemen launches at shipping can directly impact shipping transitting the Suez into the Med and to the reverse. This isn't the first time we (USN) have intercepted missiles from Yemen but timing is odd. I'll also note that we pulled ships (publicized information) from the Persian Gulf/Strait of Hormuz/Gulf of Oman to the Eastern Med during this time.

These units include:

• USS Mount Whitney (Intel ship)
• USS Batan (26th MEU)

• USS Carter (26th MEU)

Houston Lee said:

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We are going to war IMO. Once IDF invades Gaza, our carrier groups will be drawn into action. All hell is about to break loose.

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Agreed. We know once Israel starts its operation we will be hitting targets that attack Israel

P.U.T.U said:

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There have already been stories about how Russia gave real time satellite intel to Hamas, would not doubt that at all. Russia and Iran are working together to take down the west

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I'd tend to agree. I think some people don't see how much Russia is a threat to us and the means they will go to harm us.

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FireAg said:

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My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...

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My gut says that this is "Art of War" stuff with China pulling the strings. Their ally has us draining war stocks in defense of Ukraine and that war has the rest of Europe locked in place. Now another BRICS ally, Iran, is formenting a Middle East front to further stretch our resources. All the while China and it's military are keeping their powder dry and fully stocked.

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And that's all great if they move quickly enough. However, if it's too incremental then that gives the politicians, US government bureaucracy, MIC, etc. time to get on the same page and (mostly) pull in a unified direction (not to mention the measures Europe has been taking to increase their military production capabilities).

If it causes sufficient discord and kicks things off in rapid succession then they have us at a significant disadvantage. If we have time to get the behemoth spun up and chugging (not that I want it to come to that), then they'll have done themselves far more harm than good. If they're going to move then the time is now. The longer they wait, from this point forward, will be to their detriment. IMO

I'd love to know what the CARNEY used to prosecute those missiles. If they were inbd, it could have been CIWS, and that would have been a real oh **** experience for most folks on surface ships. If they're the water-pipe pipe bombs like we're seeing from Hamas, I can't imagine us using any SM-2s. Maybe the 5 inch, but my GMs never gave me much confidence that we'd be able to effectively use the gun against missiles.

PENTAGON SEES INCREASE IN HOSTILE DRONE ACTION IN IRAQ, SYRIA

— FSMN (@faststocknewss) October 19, 2023

Ahhh cool cool cool cool cool cool

JobSecurity said:

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U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023

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That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.

You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.

Mathguy64 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023

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That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.

You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.

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Bingo. If this occurred yesterday (as some sources are saying) there is no way we can't know where they were going at this point. IMO there is no way we don't know where these were going at this point. The report is reading as these missiles were a danger to our assets or assets we were protecting and those missiles were dealt with.

I don't think the Pentagon will actually give a response right now if these were targetted at our ships right now. If they were, expect strikes in Yemen in the somewhat near future. If they weren't, well I'd still expect some strikes to occur. We probably won't know for sure for awhile if ever.

My suspicion is they may have been targeting something not in Israel. This is a wild ass guess based on the information that is public about Houti weapon ranges that are 100ish miles short of Israel.

jabberwalkie09 said:

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Mathguy64 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023

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That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.

You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.

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Bingo. If this occurred yesterday (as some sources are saying) there is no way we can't know where they were going at this point. IMO there is no way we don't know where these were going at this point. The report is reading as these missiles were a danger to our assets or assets we were protecting and those missiles were dealt with.

I don't think the Pentagon will actually give a response right now if these were targetted at our ships right now. If they were, expect strikes in Yemen in the somewhat near future. If they weren't, well I'd still expect some strikes to occur. We probably won't know for sure for awhile if ever.

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Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?

Lol clowns:

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d

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Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza


As desperate Palestinians in sealed-off Gaza try to find refuge under Israel's relentless bombardment in retaliation for Hamas' brutal Oct. 7 attack, some ask why neighboring Egypt and Jordan don't take them in.

The two countries, which flank Israel on opposite sides and share borders with Gaza and the occupied West Bank, respectively, have replied with a staunch refusal. Jordan already has a large Palestinian population.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi made his toughest remarks yet on Wednesday, saying the current war was not just aimed at fighting Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, "but also an attempt to push the civilian inhabitants to ... migrate to Egypt." He warned this could wreck peace in the region.

Their refusal is rooted in fear that Israel wants to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their countries and nullify Palestinian demands for statehood. El-Sissi also said a mass exodus would risk bringing militants into Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, from where they might launch attacks on Israel, endangering the two countries' 40-year-old peace treaty.

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Initial Reports of another Attack within the last few minutes on U.S. Forces near the Al-Omar Oilfields in Northeastern Syria.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023

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Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?

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Valid theory, IMO.

Is Iran, by proxy, testing their own systems, and at the same time, poking defenses for weaknesses?

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YES AND YES

Just throwing this out there as FYI

🇮🇷 BREAKING: Unusual movements of long-range ballistic missile launchers of the IRGC Aerospace Force on the Tehran - Qom highway pic.twitter.com/Z0XczzSfI9

— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) October 19, 2023

Honestly if I were Iran I would be doing the same thing. If Israel gets attacked by Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis around the same time I think they start looking at attacking Iran as a show of force and will.

Sounds like some RFQ-9 pilots gonna be burning through some redbull and donuts.

JFABNRGR said:

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Sounds like some RFQ-9 pilots gonna be burning through some redbull and donuts.

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Yeah just waiting for the reports of green on blue stuff. Again.

FireAg said:

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My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...

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I've entertained a similar line of thinking. Putin urges his proxy Iran to stir some stuff up in the ME to distract the West from Ukraine and its military support in that campaign. Iran obliges and reaches out to Hamas to get something cooked up. Hamas goes 9/11 and voila, suddenly all attention, and military support, shifts to the ME. Would definitely help out Putin in his "special military operation" in the area.

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JFABNRGR said:

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Sounds like some RFQ-9 pilots gonna be burning through some redbull and donuts.

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Yeah just waiting for the reports of green on blue stuff. Again.

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What does green on blue mean?

Your "ally" is actually an enemy and attacks soldiers/contractors/civies in supposedly safe zones.

Happened on more than a couple of occasions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Edit: Blue is your team, green is ally, red is hostile.

I was thinking about the tunnel system dilemma for the IDF. Any way to get sufficient NG/methane to tunnel entrances and pump some down there? That gas would sink and move along the tunnel if adequately forced and then could be ignited. I believe there are NG pipelines/supply in that region.

BREAKING: The Israeli embassy in #Bahrain was just set on fire! Islamic terrorists are currently throwing Molotov cocktails at the embassy.

Israel just ordered evacuations of their embassies in Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, and Turkey.

Yesterday @JoeBiden canceled his… pic.twitter.com/LuSP9bFasb

— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) October 19, 2023

Seeing a report of 2 American KIA in Syria