Israel not restricting gun rights the last few years would also have helped, but they dropped the ball.P.H. Dexippus said:
think Israel should be investing in some of the land-based Phalanx guns to take on both aerial and land short range threats that Iron Dome cannot. Had they had a few of these stationed around the kibbutz targets on 10/7, the terrorists would've have gotten very far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS
https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/ms-c-ram_lpws/
And a flailing US economy can then benefit from US production ramp up...Rossticus said:FireAg said:
My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...
Then they may ultimately have miscalculated and be looking at a short term benefit that regresses into a long term liability for them. Further ramp up of US production capacity and an Israel who has a score to settle.
My gut says that this is "Art of War" stuff with China pulling the strings. Their ally has us draining war stocks in defense of Ukraine and that war has the rest of Europe locked in place. Now another BRICS ally, Iran, is formenting a Middle East front to further stretch our resources. All the while China and it's military are keeping their powder dry and fully stocked.FireAg said:
My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...
The problem with those guns is that they spew out a ton of rounds in a hurry, and every one of them has to land somewhere. When you have fast moving targets coming in and the gun is swinging to engage them, you can put a bunch of civilian areas in the line of fire. Not a great weapon to use in densely populated areas.P.H. Dexippus said:
I think Israel should be investing in some of the land-based Phalanx guns to take on both aerial and land short range threats that Iron Dome cannot. Had they had a few of these stationed around the kibbutz targets on 10/7, the terrorists would've have gotten very far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS
https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/ms-c-ram_lpws/
Probably not.Houston Lee said:
We are going to war IMO. Once IDF invades Gaza, our carrier groups will be drawn into action. All hell is about to break loose.
This is the issue IMO. Yemen launches at shipping can directly impact shipping transitting the Suez into the Med and to the reverse. This isn't the first time we (USN) have intercepted missiles from Yemen but timing is odd. I'll also note that we pulled ships (publicized information) from the Persian Gulf/Strait of Hormuz/Gulf of Oman to the Eastern Med during this time.nortex97 said:
They can materially impact traffic through the gulf and suez.
Houston Lee said:
We are going to war IMO. Once IDF invades Gaza, our carrier groups will be drawn into action. All hell is about to break loose.
This is so poorly written. Makes it sound like the missiles were launched by the Carney, not intercepted.JobSecurity said:U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023
P.U.T.U said:
There have already been stories about how Russia gave real time satellite intel to Hamas, would not doubt that at all. Russia and Iran are working together to take down the west
Mac94 said:My gut says that this is "Art of War" stuff with China pulling the strings. Their ally has us draining war stocks in defense of Ukraine and that war has the rest of Europe locked in place. Now another BRICS ally, Iran, is formenting a Middle East front to further stretch our resources. All the while China and it's military are keeping their powder dry and fully stocked.FireAg said:
My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...
PENTAGON SEES INCREASE IN HOSTILE DRONE ACTION IN IRAQ, SYRIA
— FSMN (@faststocknewss) October 19, 2023
JobSecurity said:U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023
Bingo. If this occurred yesterday (as some sources are saying) there is no way we can't know where they were going at this point. IMO there is no way we don't know where these were going at this point. The report is reading as these missiles were a danger to our assets or assets we were protecting and those missiles were dealt with.Mathguy64 said:JobSecurity said:U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023
That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.
You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.
Iran got something in exchange for all the drones and technical support they gave Russia in Ukraine. It wasn't just a cash transaction.Teslag said:P.U.T.U said:
There have already been stories about how Russia gave real time satellite intel to Hamas, would not doubt that at all. Russia and Iran are working together to take down the west
I'd tend to agree. I think some people don't see how much Russia is a threat to us and the means they will go to harm us.
Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?jabberwalkie09 said:Bingo. If this occurred yesterday (as some sources are saying) there is no way we can't know where they were going at this point. IMO there is no way we don't know where these were going at this point. The report is reading as these missiles were a danger to our assets or assets we were protecting and those missiles were dealt with.Mathguy64 said:JobSecurity said:U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023
That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.
You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.
I don't think the Pentagon will actually give a response right now if these were targetted at our ships right now. If they were, expect strikes in Yemen in the somewhat near future. If they weren't, well I'd still expect some strikes to occur. We probably won't know for sure for awhile if ever.
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Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza
As desperate Palestinians in sealed-off Gaza try to find refuge under Israel's relentless bombardment in retaliation for Hamas' brutal Oct. 7 attack, some ask why neighboring Egypt and Jordan don't take them in.
The two countries, which flank Israel on opposite sides and share borders with Gaza and the occupied West Bank, respectively, have replied with a staunch refusal. Jordan already has a large Palestinian population.
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi made his toughest remarks yet on Wednesday, saying the current war was not just aimed at fighting Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, "but also an attempt to push the civilian inhabitants to ... migrate to Egypt." He warned this could wreck peace in the region.
Their refusal is rooted in fear that Israel wants to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their countries and nullify Palestinian demands for statehood. El-Sissi also said a mass exodus would risk bringing militants into Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, from where they might launch attacks on Israel, endangering the two countries' 40-year-old peace treaty.
Valid theory, IMO.Quote:
Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?
Initial Reports of another Attack within the last few minutes on U.S. Forces near the Al-Omar Oilfields in Northeastern Syria.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023
YES AND YESCDUB98 said:Valid theory, IMO.Quote:
Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?
Is Iran, by proxy, testing their own systems, and at the same time, poking defenses for weaknesses?
🇮🇷 BREAKING: Unusual movements of long-range ballistic missile launchers of the IRGC Aerospace Force on the Tehran - Qom highway pic.twitter.com/Z0XczzSfI9
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) October 19, 2023
P.U.T.U said:
The Aegis BMD can track where a missile was fired from, the trajectory, time to target, speed, and a million other things in a fraction of a second so we know exactly where it was aimed for.
Yeah just waiting for the reports of green on blue stuff. Again.JFABNRGR said:
Sounds like some RFQ-9 pilots gonna be burning through some redbull and donuts.
I've entertained a similar line of thinking. Putin urges his proxy Iran to stir some stuff up in the ME to distract the West from Ukraine and its military support in that campaign. Iran obliges and reaches out to Hamas to get something cooked up. Hamas goes 9/11 and voila, suddenly all attention, and military support, shifts to the ME. Would definitely help out Putin in his "special military operation" in the area.FireAg said:
My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...
aezmvp said:Yeah just waiting for the reports of green on blue stuff. Again.JFABNRGR said:
Sounds like some RFQ-9 pilots gonna be burning through some redbull and donuts.
BREAKING: The Israeli embassy in #Bahrain was just set on fire! Islamic terrorists are currently throwing Molotov cocktails at the embassy.
— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) October 19, 2023
Israel just ordered evacuations of their embassies in Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, and Turkey.
Yesterday @JoeBiden canceled his… pic.twitter.com/LuSP9bFasb