Permits, by limiting permits. That's the reason the gun ownership percentage was so freaking low.....and the reason they have now increased the number of permits being granted (since the attacks).LMCane said:samurai_science said:They for some stupid reason had reduced gun ownership for yearsNo Spin Ag said:I agree. If I lived there I'd have guns near and on me at all times.ttu_85 said:IF they only had guns.LMCane said:“I have to go…everything is going to be okay,” an Israeli hiding says to someone on the phone in the first video.
— Kassy Dillon (@KassyDillon) November 3, 2023
The second video shows them all dead.
pic.twitter.com/O3VuQ4mFaj
From the first day of the war
In my hood every man woman and child would be armed to the teeth. Israel was stupid to disarm its population.
Whoever ordered this, probably the Labour party, is also guilty of this this outrage.
Never give up your guns
They (Israel) seem to have idiotically thought a wall, supported by tech, would be enough to keep out the unwanted. It wasn't.
Then again, if it was someone(s) on the inside of the government that was at fault, all the walls and tech in the world were never going to be enough.
Where is your actual evidence of this?
the government of Israel has never confiscated guns. so how did they "reduce" gun ownership?
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It is known as Israel's 'monster to the north' - a fearsome Iranian-backed military foe that claims to have 100,000 active fighters armed to the teeth with a terrifying array of weapons.
Hezbollah, or the 'Party of God' in Arabic, has emerged as a potent force in the Middle East in recent years boasting a multifaceted arsenal and diverse military capabilities that pose a considerable threat to Israel.
Now there are growing fears the terror proxy could ignite further chaos in the region by wading into a war that has already seen around 1,400 Israelis killed in the October 7 massacre and - according to Hamas officials - thousands of deaths in aerial bombardments in Gaza.
Israel should tell Hezbollah that if 'all options' are open for them then all options are open Israel and then send a nuke and vaporize a large chunk of their desert rats. They have zero fear or respect for the vegetable in the WH, but I'm confident they wouldn't threaten our navy and troops if Trump were still in there.Quote:
The group adopted the name Hezbollah - which translates to 'Party of God' - with the primary goal of resisting Israeli occupation in Southern Lebanon.
The Iranian connection has remained a defining aspect of Hezbollah's identity, and the nature of the group's multifaceted setup as a political party and armed militia allow it to wield considerable influence.
Its dual political and military setup echoes that of Hamas, but while both groups are backed by Iran's Islamic Republic, Hezbollah has evolved into a far graver military threat.
The group has been exchanging fire with Israel across the border intermittently since Hamas' October 7 attacks - the latest escalation since Israel and Hezbollah fought a major war in 2006.
Hezbollah has been reluctant to commit any meaningful numbers of troops and rockets to fight Israel, but the group's involvement has increased in recent days, with the proxy noting that it attacked 19 Israeli positions along the border simultaneously on Thursday, which included its first using explosive drones.
The group has declared it is ready to help when the time comes in the war between Israel and Hamas - and there are fears that Hezbollah joining the ground invasion would force the IDF to split their resources and fight a battle on two fronts at opposite ends of the country.
Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, 63, told the United States today that the terror proxy was ready to face its warships and the way to prevent a regional war was to halt the attacks in Gaza.
Nasrallah, in his first speech since the Israel-Hamas war erupted on October 7, also threatened Israel's main ally the United States, hinting his Iran-backed group was ready to confront U.S. warships in the Mediterranean.
He said: 'You, the Americans, know very well that if war breaks out in the region, your fleets will be of no use, nor will fighting from the air be of any benefit, and the one who will pay the price will be... your interests, your soldiers and your fleets.'
Referring to U.S. warships in the Mediterranean, he said Hezbollah was not afraid of these.
In a wide-ranging speech, Nasrallah said 'all options' were open for an expansion of the Israel-Hamas conflict into Lebanon.
He warned of a further escalation on Israel's border with Lebanon and said Hamas's war with the Jewish state is 'now on more than one front'.
Indeed, Hezbollah has an impressive arsenal at its disposal should it join the bloody war, now in its 28th day.
In addition to the array of small arms, machine guns and tens if not hundreds of thousands of rockets at its disposal, Hezbollah boasts a range of anti-tank and anti-air systems, a fleet of thousands of drones, and dozens of tanks and armoured vehicles.
Hezbollah has 100K active fighters like 500 people died in that Gaza hospital explosion.ProgN said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12707489/Hezbollah-Iranian-terror-proxy-ignite-chaos-Middle-East-Tehran-funded-trained-militia-ten-times-powerful-Hamas-threatening-Israel-US.htmlQuote:
It is known as Israel's 'monster to the north' - a fearsome Iranian-backed military foe that claims to have 100,000 active fighters armed to the teeth with a terrifying array of weapons.
Hezbollah, or the 'Party of God' in Arabic, has emerged as a potent force in the Middle East in recent years boasting a multifaceted arsenal and diverse military capabilities that pose a considerable threat to Israel.
Now there are growing fears the terror proxy could ignite further chaos in the region by wading into a war that has already seen around 1,400 Israelis killed in the October 7 massacre and - according to Hamas officials - thousands of deaths in aerial bombardments in Gaza.
Tehran is the chief backer of both Hamas and Hezbollah - but these are just some of the powerful militias that have been propped up by Iranian money, weapons and military training in recent decades
Isn't it great that Obama and Biden gave Iran so much money?Israel should tell Hezbollah that if 'all options' are open for them then all options are open Israel and then send a nuke and vaporize a large chunk of their desert rats. They have zero fear or respect for the vegetable in the WH, but I'm confident they wouldn't threaten our navy and troops if Trump were still in there.Quote:
The group adopted the name Hezbollah - which translates to 'Party of God' - with the primary goal of resisting Israeli occupation in Southern Lebanon.
The Iranian connection has remained a defining aspect of Hezbollah's identity, and the nature of the group's multifaceted setup as a political party and armed militia allow it to wield considerable influence.
Its dual political and military setup echoes that of Hamas, but while both groups are backed by Iran's Islamic Republic, Hezbollah has evolved into a far graver military threat.
The group has been exchanging fire with Israel across the border intermittently since Hamas' October 7 attacks - the latest escalation since Israel and Hezbollah fought a major war in 2006.
Hezbollah has been reluctant to commit any meaningful numbers of troops and rockets to fight Israel, but the group's involvement has increased in recent days, with the proxy noting that it attacked 19 Israeli positions along the border simultaneously on Thursday, which included its first using explosive drones.
The group has declared it is ready to help when the time comes in the war between Israel and Hamas - and there are fears that Hezbollah joining the ground invasion would force the IDF to split their resources and fight a battle on two fronts at opposite ends of the country.
Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, 63, told the United States today that the terror proxy was ready to face its warships and the way to prevent a regional war was to halt the attacks in Gaza.
Nasrallah, in his first speech since the Israel-Hamas war erupted on October 7, also threatened Israel's main ally the United States, hinting his Iran-backed group was ready to confront U.S. warships in the Mediterranean.
He said: 'You, the Americans, know very well that if war breaks out in the region, your fleets will be of no use, nor will fighting from the air be of any benefit, and the one who will pay the price will be... your interests, your soldiers and your fleets.'
Referring to U.S. warships in the Mediterranean, he said Hezbollah was not afraid of these.
In a wide-ranging speech, Nasrallah said 'all options' were open for an expansion of the Israel-Hamas conflict into Lebanon.
He warned of a further escalation on Israel's border with Lebanon and said Hamas's war with the Jewish state is 'now on more than one front'.
Indeed, Hezbollah has an impressive arsenal at its disposal should it join the bloody war, now in its 28th day.
In addition to the array of small arms, machine guns and tens if not hundreds of thousands of rockets at its disposal, Hezbollah boasts a range of anti-tank and anti-air systems, a fleet of thousands of drones, and dozens of tanks and armoured vehicles.
Did you know that in 1989 that cruise missiles could practically fly through a given targeted window in Beirut or any city so targeted. But this ass clown is not at all worried about our warships and even thinks he can threaten them.FJB said:
Should have launched this during the speech, since nobody is worried about our warships.
Oh I agree they have some advanced weapons, since they're effectively Iran's proxy. My comment was mainly the number of "fighters" that they claim to have...GAC06 said:
They hit an Israeli ship with a missile in the 2006 Lebanon war. It's likely they have some more advanced stuff now but nothing a carrier need to be concerned with IMO
They need to learn a lesson that all terror chiefs must die and if you are standing near a terror chief, or in the same room, you will die too.LMCane said:because this is not a great power like the USA or Russia or even Iran who can do whatever they want with no repercussionsagent-maroon said:I have yet to hear a good reason for Israel to not carpet bomb gaza into pea sized rubble. They're not going to be given any credit for limiting civilian casualties no matter what they do, so why don't they go full WW2 on them? It's not like the world is ever going to love them back so why don't they get on with it?TH36 said:
Lend them a few B-52's?
Surgical excision >>>>>> chemo when trying to cure cancer. Just one cell is all it takes to grow back into a life-threatening tumor if given enough time
Israel is dependent on Washington for arms and for diplomatic support. As well as in London, Paris, Berlin.
they have to try as much as they can to limit civilian casualties.
also, Israelis and Jews value human life more than the Arabs do-
even the lives of women and children in Gaza.
The IDF prides itself on not hitting civilians- although after 7 October some of the rules of engagement have been lifted to allow for more attacks on terror chiefs even when families may be present.
I think I said this earlier on this thread but Israel needs to give Hamas and ESPECIALLY their leaders an ultimatum.one safe place said:They need to learn a lesson that all terror chiefs must die and if you are standing near a terror chief, or in the same room, you will die too.LMCane said:because this is not a great power like the USA or Russia or even Iran who can do whatever they want with no repercussionsagent-maroon said:I have yet to hear a good reason for Israel to not carpet bomb gaza into pea sized rubble. They're not going to be given any credit for limiting civilian casualties no matter what they do, so why don't they go full WW2 on them? It's not like the world is ever going to love them back so why don't they get on with it?TH36 said:
Lend them a few B-52's?
Surgical excision >>>>>> chemo when trying to cure cancer. Just one cell is all it takes to grow back into a life-threatening tumor if given enough time
Israel is dependent on Washington for arms and for diplomatic support. As well as in London, Paris, Berlin.
they have to try as much as they can to limit civilian casualties.
also, Israelis and Jews value human life more than the Arabs do-
even the lives of women and children in Gaza.
The IDF prides itself on not hitting civilians- although after 7 October some of the rules of engagement have been lifted to allow for more attacks on terror chiefs even when families may be present.
I suspect that Israel has made it clear to Iran than any full scale attacks or invasions by Hezbollah would receive a direct response against Iran. Hezbollah is much more directly controlled by Iran than Hamas and there would be no plausible deniability for Iran for any major attacks from the north.LMCane said:
well we just saw what 3000 Hamas terrorists could do in an invasion into Israel
what would happen if 10,000 Hizbullah terrorists had done the same thing on 7 October?
It's pretty shocking now that Hizbullah did NOT launch a simultaneous attack-
there are more Israeli civilians close to the Northern border than to the Gaza border.
Biden administration confirmed today that Hamas tried to sneak their fighters out of Gaza City via ambulances earlier this week. US & Egypt found 1/3 of the list provided were Hamas fighters.https://t.co/b9IFGjYV62
— AG (@AGHamilton29) November 4, 2023
במהלך היממה האחרונה פעלו לוחמי חי״ר ושריון בפיקוד חטיבה 460 בצפון רצועת עזה, באיזור ממנו זוהו ניסיונות רבים לתקוף את כוחות צה״ל באמצעות פירי מנהרות ומתחמים צבאיים.
— דובר צה״ל דניאל הגרי - Daniel Hagari (@IDFSpokesperson) November 4, 2023
הכוחות חיסלו מחבלים שפעלו במרחב, חשפו פירי מנהרות ששימשו לצורכי טרור ואיתרו אמצעי לחימה של הארגון >> pic.twitter.com/vApQ9eA4qW
#BREAKING: Al-Azhar university of #Gaza was just flattened by #Israel Air Force! Established with the help of #Qatar, the Islamic university was in use to train #Hamas terrorists. It was also a place where Hamas stored weapons and ammunition. pic.twitter.com/9zj9FMVYRE
— Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch (@BabakTaghvaee1) November 4, 2023
IDF says ground forces continued the offensive in northern Gaza overnight.
— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) November 4, 2023
It says infantry and tank forces led by the 460th Brigade encountered numerous attempts by Hamas operatives to come out of tunnels and attack troops. The forces killed several gunmen and located tunnels.… pic.twitter.com/XqjqM174JH
Senior U.S. Officials have stated that Hamas attempted to use Ambulances provided by the Red Cross and Red Crescent to Escape from Gaza to Egypt earlier this week alongside 76 Palestinians who had been Seriously Wounded and required Higher-Medical Care in Egypt; the Plot was… pic.twitter.com/ACnxSPGT88
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) November 4, 2023
one safe place said:They need to learn a lesson that all terror chiefs must die and if you are standing near a terror chief, or in the same room, you will die too.LMCane said:because this is not a great power like the USA or Russia or even Iran who can do whatever they want with no repercussionsagent-maroon said:I have yet to hear a good reason for Israel to not carpet bomb gaza into pea sized rubble. They're not going to be given any credit for limiting civilian casualties no matter what they do, so why don't they go full WW2 on them? It's not like the world is ever going to love them back so why don't they get on with it?TH36 said:
Lend them a few B-52's?
Surgical excision >>>>>> chemo when trying to cure cancer. Just one cell is all it takes to grow back into a life-threatening tumor if given enough time
Israel is dependent on Washington for arms and for diplomatic support. As well as in London, Paris, Berlin.
they have to try as much as they can to limit civilian casualties.
also, Israelis and Jews value human life more than the Arabs do-
even the lives of women and children in Gaza.
The IDF prides itself on not hitting civilians- although after 7 October some of the rules of engagement have been lifted to allow for more attacks on terror chiefs even when families may be present.
nortex97 said:
I actually am shocked, as I didn't think the Egyptians would allow those trucks to be inspected by Israel, or that any came in through Israeli crossings. Good to hear though.#BREAKING: Al-Azhar university of #Gaza was just flattened by #Israel Air Force! Established with the help of #Qatar, the Islamic university was in use to train #Hamas terrorists. It was also a place where Hamas stored weapons and ammunition. pic.twitter.com/9zj9FMVYRE
— Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch (@BabakTaghvaee1) November 4, 2023IDF says ground forces continued the offensive in northern Gaza overnight.
— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) November 4, 2023
It says infantry and tank forces led by the 460th Brigade encountered numerous attempts by Hamas operatives to come out of tunnels and attack troops. The forces killed several gunmen and located tunnels.… pic.twitter.com/XqjqM174JH
They seem to have done quite a bit of work overnight.
In, and out they are trying to smuggle stuff and 'fighters' (terrorists).Senior U.S. Officials have stated that Hamas attempted to use Ambulances provided by the Red Cross and Red Crescent to Escape from Gaza to Egypt earlier this week alongside 76 Palestinians who had been Seriously Wounded and required Higher-Medical Care in Egypt; the Plot was… pic.twitter.com/ACnxSPGT88
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) November 4, 2023
So, did they haul off the lifeless bodies of the terrorists in a dump truck? Certainly hope the identified terrorists won't need an ambulance anymore.nortex97 said:
I actually am shocked, as I didn't think the Egyptians would allow those trucks to be inspected by Israel, or that any came in through Israeli crossings. Good to hear though.#BREAKING: Al-Azhar university of #Gaza was just flattened by #Israel Air Force! Established with the help of #Qatar, the Islamic university was in use to train #Hamas terrorists. It was also a place where Hamas stored weapons and ammunition. pic.twitter.com/9zj9FMVYRE
— Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch (@BabakTaghvaee1) November 4, 2023IDF says ground forces continued the offensive in northern Gaza overnight.
— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) November 4, 2023
It says infantry and tank forces led by the 460th Brigade encountered numerous attempts by Hamas operatives to come out of tunnels and attack troops. The forces killed several gunmen and located tunnels.… pic.twitter.com/XqjqM174JH
They seem to have done quite a bit of work overnight.
In, and out they are trying to smuggle stuff and 'fighters' (terrorists).Senior U.S. Officials have stated that Hamas attempted to use Ambulances provided by the Red Cross and Red Crescent to Escape from Gaza to Egypt earlier this week alongside 76 Palestinians who had been Seriously Wounded and required Higher-Medical Care in Egypt; the Plot was… pic.twitter.com/ACnxSPGT88
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) November 4, 2023
Katibah mosque has been destroyed by #IAF 🇮🇱 airstrikes, spotted the PIJ's Saraya Al Quds' flag?#Gaza pic.twitter.com/YMXNCbAaaX
— Aleph א (@no_itsmyturn) November 4, 2023
Some of the latest death notices released by #Hezbollah over the past day - I *think* we're at 59 killed pic.twitter.com/2k5ySMU1ly
— Michael A. Horowitz (@michaelh992) November 4, 2023
Ag with kids said:
If Israel has to go get them and/or the hostages die, then Israel will give them the William Wallace treatment.
My thoughts exactly. If you allow terrorists to live among you, and don't take them out, part of the price of doing so is being taken out when the terrorists are. Future generations might take notice but, if not, they will face the same thing.Bird Poo said:one safe place said:They need to learn a lesson that all terror chiefs must die and if you are standing near a terror chief, or in the same room, you will die too.LMCane said:because this is not a great power like the USA or Russia or even Iran who can do whatever they want with no repercussionsagent-maroon said:I have yet to hear a good reason for Israel to not carpet bomb gaza into pea sized rubble. They're not going to be given any credit for limiting civilian casualties no matter what they do, so why don't they go full WW2 on them? It's not like the world is ever going to love them back so why don't they get on with it?TH36 said:
Lend them a few B-52's?
Surgical excision >>>>>> chemo when trying to cure cancer. Just one cell is all it takes to grow back into a life-threatening tumor if given enough time
Israel is dependent on Washington for arms and for diplomatic support. As well as in London, Paris, Berlin.
they have to try as much as they can to limit civilian casualties.
also, Israelis and Jews value human life more than the Arabs do-
even the lives of women and children in Gaza.
The IDF prides itself on not hitting civilians- although after 7 October some of the rules of engagement have been lifted to allow for more attacks on terror chiefs even when families may be present.
Maybe the population will finally reject Hamas
If they think they'll be blown to bits when those sickos are near.
Not sure how any educated, objective person could think any differently at this point. They've had multiple chances since WWII to get there and they and their puppet masters have sabotaged every effort to do so. They are literally fodder for the rest of the Muslim world against Israel. And the Palestinians themselves are too stupid to realize this.ABATTBQ11 said:
Yeah, after 10/7 I've completely given up on a two state solution. It's all Israel. The palestinians just have to leave, one way or another. They had their chance. They made their choice.
No surface forces nor equipment from an army to stop them. For all intents and purposes, their tunnels are about as effective as the Maginot Line was in WWII.YouBet said:
Not sure if Isarel has released much on this but it certainly seems like their casualty numbers are much lower than I would have expected at this point. I realize they still have to do the dirty work of going block by block in Gaza City but they encircled it quite rapidly.
Yes, but I expected more resistance than this but Hamas, I'm sure, is holding back thinking they will wear down the IDF in the more urban environment.aggiehawg said:No surface forces nor equipment from an army to stop them. For all intents and purposes, their tunnels are about as effective as the Maginot Line was in WWII.YouBet said:
Not sure if Isarel has released much on this but it certainly seems like their casualty numbers are much lower than I would have expected at this point. I realize they still have to do the dirty work of going block by block in Gaza City but they encircled it quite rapidly.
Tunnels are great for surviving random aerial bombardment. We'll see how well they fare under siege conditions since they are surrounded. How long can they last if they get blasted when they try to resupply?
Swollen Thumb said:aggiehawg said:A 20 truck UN-coordinated humanitarian convoy was able to make it into the Gaza Strip earlier today at the Rafah crossing after Egyptian authorities briefly opened the border. pic.twitter.com/JZiPpG5byF
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) October 21, 2023
Okay, there you go. There's your aid to Gaza.
Now light this sucker off!
Anyone think the main purpose of this convoy isn't so much to get aid in, but likely to smuggle certain people out?
I think people expected a Hezbollah like defense of which they have done when Israel went into Lebanon in the past. Hamas trained to fight and kill civs and miscalculated on the IDF response and what they have learned fighting in the pastYouBet said:Yes, but I expected more resistance than this but Hamas, I'm sure, is holding back thinking they will wear down the IDF in the more urban environment.aggiehawg said:No surface forces nor equipment from an army to stop them. For all intents and purposes, their tunnels are about as effective as the Maginot Line was in WWII.YouBet said:
Not sure if Isarel has released much on this but it certainly seems like their casualty numbers are much lower than I would have expected at this point. I realize they still have to do the dirty work of going block by block in Gaza City but they encircled it quite rapidly.
Tunnels are great for surviving random aerial bombardment. We'll see how well they fare under siege conditions since they are surrounded. How long can they last if they get blasted when they try to resupply?