Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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Like a 9 or 10 or 11 year old girl who has a real chance of death? I think there are other rare complications that can kill the mother. Women have died giving birth or from pregnancy complications for thousands of years. Preeclampsia can trigger deadly blood pressure levels to the point where the mother will face almost certain death if the baby is not removed. That being said, they are delivering the typically premature baby by emergency c-section. That being said, wouldn't removing an unviable fetus during a bout of severe preeclampsia technically be considered an abortion?

I am staunchly pro-life and only in these extreme scenarios would I be ok with the family/doctors making the best decision.

Imagine your wife is 22-23 months pregnant with your second or third child and she has to go to the hospital with crazy symptoms and they tell you she could very well die if they do not induce and deliver the baby, who will almost certainly die. It's a tough situation to be in, but not a tough decision imo.

GeorgiAg said:

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deddog said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

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whatever helps you sleep better about being ok with killing babies, especially black ones

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I can't have an abortion.

Unless in this weirdo world we live in now I identify as female, identify as pregnant and then terminate my imaginary fetus.

It doesn't impact me in the slightest. I just think a woman and her doctor should make the decision, not some Holy Man or politician.

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Murder is a sensitive decision that should be made between a victim's spouse and the hitman they hired, not representatives of society at large.

Dimebag Darrell said:

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Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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Like a 9 or 10 or 11 year old girl who has a real chance of death? I think there are other rare complications that can kill the mother. Women have died giving birth or from pregnancy complications for thousands of years. Preeclampsia can trigger deadly blood pressure levels to the point where the mother will face almost certain death if the baby is not removed. That being said, they are delivering the typically premature baby by emergency c-section. That being said, wouldn't removing an unviable fetus during a bout of severe preeclampsia technically be considered an abortion?

I am staunchly pro-life and only in these extreme scenarios would I be ok with the family/doctors making the best decision.

Imagine your wife is 22-23 months pregnant with your second or third child and she has to go to the hospital with crazy symptoms and they tell you she could very well die if they do not induce and deliver the baby, who will almost certainly die. It's a tough situation to be in, but not a tough decision imo.

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22-23 months pregnant

Well there's your problem right there!

Bob Lee said:

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Dimebag Darrell said:

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Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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Like a 9 or 10 or 11 year old girl who has a real chance of death? I think there are other rare complications that can kill the mother. Women have died giving birth or from pregnancy complications for thousands of years. Preeclampsia can trigger deadly blood pressure levels to the point where the mother will face almost certain death if the baby is not removed. That being said, they are delivering the typically premature baby by emergency c-section. That being said, wouldn't removing an unviable fetus during a bout of severe preeclampsia technically be considered an abortion?

I am staunchly pro-life and only in these extreme scenarios would I be ok with the family/doctors making the best decision.

Imagine your wife is 22-23 months pregnant with your second or third child and she has to go to the hospital with crazy symptoms and they tell you she could very well die if they do not induce and deliver the baby, who will almost certainly die. It's a tough situation to be in, but not a tough decision imo.

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22-23 months pregnant

Well there's your problem right there!

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Datgummit...I'm gonna leave it up and face ridicule like a man!

Yeah, that would cause a woman to want to blow her brains out.

GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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"White Republicans shouldn't have voted to free black slaves because they didn't know what it was like to own slaves!"

Sounds stupid, huh?

White Republican : Republican man
Innocent slave : innocent baby
Slave owner : abortion seeker

If the pro-abortion side had facts on their side, they'd pound those. When they pound credentials instead, it affirms that truth is not on their side.

As to this lady? I fully expect her story omits significant details or contains straight up lies.

96AgGrad said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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deddog said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

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whatever helps you sleep better about being ok with killing babies, especially black ones

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I can't have an abortion.

Unless in this weirdo world we live in now I identify as female, identify as pregnant and then terminate my imaginary fetus.

It doesn't impact me in the slightest. I just think a woman and her doctor should make the decision, not some Holy Man or politician.

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Murder is a sensitive decision that should be made between a victim's spouse and the hitman they hired, not representatives of society at large.

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The tough decision of whether to pull the life support plug on a comatose family member of a loved one going through unimaginable pain and agony in their final days is a more analogous scenario imo if we are talking about true cases of saving the mother's life during birth or pregnancy.

I'm not referring to life-threatening cases.

Sharpshooter said:

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Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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I apologize that English is tough. I mean, if the Mothers life will probably end at birth. Clear enough?

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This is a tough call, thankfully the situation is not at all common and we must consider this when and if it becomes necessary. Until then let us stick with the more common situation, which revolves around "convivence" arguments.

Seriously though, in the scenario you described you aren't killing the baby. The baby could die in an attempt to save the life of the mother. They're not the same thing. I don't think I'm splitting hairs here.

Our 5th or 6th pregnancy (can't remember exactly) died in utero at 22 weeks. I can kind of imagine, though everything was cut and dry and we weren't faced with any difficult decisions. I think what you described where you induce labor and pray for a good outcome is 100% reasonable, and that's what I would do I believe.

Let's get back to this lady.

Tennessee law did not forbid terminating this pregnancy. Now, her doctor may have been a big ***** and refused to do it, but not because it was illegal.

96AgGrad said:

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I'm not referring to life-threatening cases.

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Ah gotcha, agreed.

doubledog said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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I apologize that English is tough. I mean, if the Mothers life will probably end at birth. Clear enough?

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This is a tough call, thankfully the situation is not at all common and we must consider this when and if it becomes necessary. Until then let us stick with the more common situation, which revolves around "convivence" arguments.

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It's so uncommon that it's ridiculous that the left tends to bring it (and rape) up all the time as if that is what they are fighting for. They know that just dying on the hill of "babies are inconvenient parasites who could derail womens' careers" is a bad look and "OMG RAPE! and "LIFE OF THE MOTHER" give them some debate ammo and sway the more reasonable people to their side by targeting/triggering their emotions.

Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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. It should mean exactly that.

What is mission from the abortion debate are the many woman who have 6, 7, 8 and more abortions.

We should absolutely minimize abortion. Some abortions are appropriate. Some should not happen. Then there is the out right abuse of multiple abortions.

I'm sure Mr. Pfizer's spotlight-stealing girlfriend will back her and promote her campaign and she will win.

88planoAg said:

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An ectopic pregnancy is never viable. The process to eliminate an ectopic pregnancy is never against the law, please show where it is.

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Some here are confusing a salpingectomy procedure to treat an ectopic pregnancy with an elective abortion to terminate an otherwise viable human life. They are not remotely the same thing.

The candidate did not have to get pregnant, she chose to.