I’m honored and excited to announce my candidacy for TN House of Representatives District 75! pic.twitter.com/qRgBslDlVT

— Allie Phillips (@allie4tn) October 2, 2023

tennessee has their very own abortion barbie

This message has been approved by Moloch.

It is not an abortion to remove and already deceased baby from the womb. It is an abortion to intentionally kill a healthy baby. Either she is lying about the situation or about the Tennessee law.

If not, amend the law to be clear in these specific situations. This isn't hard people. Don't murder babies. The end.

ETA I looked at the OP and now realize this is a completely unserious thread.

I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

I looked up Tennessee's 75th district. It's right outside Ft Campbell which immediately makes me think red district in a red state (albeit a red state that has two blue abscesses called Nashville and Memphis). Sure enough, it's a red district. Not only that, the incumbent Republican ran unopposed in the last election and got 100% of the ballots cast because the Democrat candidate withdrew or was disqualified according to Bllotopedia. Not only that, but the last time a Democrat ran in that district was in 2018 and he got 25% of the vote.

So, it seems highly likely that Ms. Stillbirth is running only for the purpose of garnering campaign donations from Blue PACs and to gather names ona signature list to get her on the ballot that will be used for future fundraising by ActBlue and ShareBlue.

dims will cheat their way to a win and say see this extraordinary victory was due to republicans unpopular abortion policy

So someone in the minority in her state re an important issue is running for office to try and change state law.

If you agreed with her position on the issue, you would applauding her participation in the process rather than insulting her, right?

Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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I apologize that English is tough. I mean, if the Mothers life will probably end at birth. Clear enough?

Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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Those situations do not exist.

There are zero situations where aborting a healthy unborn child needs to be done to save the life of the Mother. It doesn't happen. Abortions, in contrast to marriage, endangers women's lives.

Seamaster said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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Those situations do not exist.

There are zero situations where aborting a healthy unborn child needs to be done to save the life of the Mother. It doesn't happen. Abortions, in contrast to marriage, endangers women's lives.

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Ectopic pregnancies certainly exist...

Seamaster said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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Those situations do not exist.

There are zero situations where aborting a healthy unborn child needs to be done to save the life of the Mother. It doesn't happen. Abortions, in contrast to marriage, endangers women's lives.

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Educate yourself

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ectopic-pregnancy/symptoms-causes/syc-20372088

Seamaster said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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Those situations do not exist.

There are zero situations where aborting a healthy unborn child needs to be done to save the life of the Mother. It doesn't happen. Abortions, in contrast to marriage, endangers women's lives.

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News to me.....who would have thought, after 65 years, you could learn something new.

Abortion Barbie Part II

I wonder what "not compatible with life" means? That's an odd phrasing for a medical condition.

Sharpshooter said:

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Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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I apologize that English is tough. I mean, if the Mothers life will probably end at birth. Clear enough?

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So greater than 50% chance. How do you quantify the likelihood that the mother will die?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. What I'm saying is the devil is in the details. It probably would not be that hard to find a. Abortionist that would give a diagnosis of "yeah you're probably gonna die if we don't end the pregnancy".

You hear a lot of "life and health of the mother" thrown around to introduce mental health and as much subjectivity as possible into the equation. The goal is to make getting abortion as easy as possible by any means necessary. I know what you mean, but codifying that so it can't be abused by people who want to monetize their baby killing "skills" is hard.

An ectopic pregnancy is never viable. The process to eliminate an ectopic pregnancy is never against the law, please show where it is.

I knew somebody would play the ectopic pregnancy card.

That's an unviable situation where baby dies and mom dies and that's not an abortion in the sense that any pro life person wants abortion to be banned.

Abortion is a procedure with the sole or primary intent and purpose of ending human life in the womb is never medically necessary.

Medical intervention in an unviable ectopic pregnancy is a sad situation but not elective abortion.

Try telling a mom that she had an abortion who suffered thorough an ectopic pregnancy…

Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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I am as pro-life as one can get; and, have no issue with allowing a decision if the Mothers life is in danger.

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What does it mean for the mother's life to be in danger?

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I apologize that English is tough. I mean, if the Mothers life will probably end at birth. Clear enough?

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So greater than 50% chance. How do you quantify the likelihood that the mother will die?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. What I'm saying is the devil is in the details. It probably would not be that hard to find a. Abortionist that would give a diagnosis of "yeah you're probably gonna die if we don't end the pregnancy".

You hear a lot of "life and health of the mother" thrown around to introduce mental health and as much subjectivity as possible into the equation. The goal is to make getting abortion as easy as possible by any means necessary. I know what you mean, but codifying that so it can't be abused by people who want to monetize their baby killing "skills" is hard.

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I can't answer your legit question. All I am saying is parents should have a choice if the possibility (legitimately) exists.

Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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I am elderly and find your post sophomoric.

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meh. it is a state right.

she has the right to run. and to be pro-aboprtion.

if the people vote for her and her platform, that is on them.

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Aboprtion? Is that the procedure Seamaster is referring to when you terminate an ectopic pregnancy?

GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

C@LAg said:

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meh. it is a state right.

she has the right to run. and to be pro-aboprtion.

if the people vote for her and her platform, that is on them.

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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This is a thread about abortion, not life.

Too bad Candidate Stillbirth couldn't run instead as Candidate Ectopic Pregnancy Nearly Died.

"Hi, my name is Allie Phillips and I traveled out of state to have an abortion but it was too late and the baby was an induced stillbirth, which actually isn't illegal in Tennessee.

Nevertheless, in an alternative reality the baby could have been a living ectopic pregnancy that might have actually posed a risk to my life if carried to term but, performing an abortion under those circumstances isn't illegal in Tennessee either because the law that went into effect in April specifically allows for abortions if in the attending doctor's 'reasonable medical judgment' an abortion could can save the life of the pregnant patient or prevent major injury.

To be frank, I really wanted to take a short notice trip to New York City and I have always had ambition to run for public office. The stillbirth of my child, while tragic because I wanted to have another baby, had a wonderful silver lining because it justified that NYC getaway (paid for by a grant from EMILY's List) and provided a premise for me to run for office to change a law that didn't actually prohibit me from having an induced delivery for a deceased fetus.

My my is Allie Phillips and I approve this message. "

Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

GeorgiAg said:

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C@LAg said:

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meh. it is a state right.

she has the right to run. and to be pro-aboprtion.

if the people vote for her and her platform, that is on them.

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Aboprtion? Is that the procedure Seamaster is referring to when you terminate an ectopic pregnancy?

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Grammar smack, because he understands medical procedures better than you?

Sharpshooter said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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This is a thread about abortion, not life.

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It is a medical fact that abortion ends a life. If you can point to a material or substantive difference between these two scenarios, I'm all ears.

Like if you could demonstrate to me that the location of the baby presents an essential difference in kind, and not just an accidental difference, then this might be a compelling argument.

GeorgiAg said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

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whatever helps you sleep better about being ok with killing babies, especially black ones

GeorgiAg said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

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The word fetus just means offspring. Is it human or is it not?

Another way of asking this: can a human beget offspring that's anything except human?

deddog said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

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whatever helps you sleep better about being ok with killing babies, especially black ones

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I can't have an abortion.

Unless in this weirdo world we live in now I identify as female, identify as pregnant and then terminate my imaginary fetus.

It doesn't impact me in the slightest. I just think a woman and her doctor should make the decision, not some Holy Man or politician.

Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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No.

You and others think a fetus = baby. I do not.

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The word fetus just means offspring. Is it human or is it not?

Another way of asking this: can a human beget offspring that's anything except human?

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I'm not going to keep arguing this. You won't change my mind and I won't change yours. I have a degree from TAMU in biochem/genetics so I have a basic understanding of the human life cycle. I'm not going to argue semantics. Reasonable minds can differ on this topic, that's why it's so hard.

I think abortion is gross and wish no one would ever have one.

Bob Lee said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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Bob Lee said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Having a bunch of middle aged and old male ignorant voters decide that you have to have a risky pregnancy where you could die or be forced to give birth to a child with severe birth defects that will bankrupt you forever because they are afraid of something called Moloch or whatever is awesome.

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Should you be able to kill your child if they develop a costly malady that could bankrupt you forever?

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This is a thread about abortion, not life.

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It is a medical fact that abortion ends a life. If you can point to a material or substantive difference between these two scenarios, I'm all ears.

Like if you could demonstrate to me that the location of the baby presents an essential difference in kind, and not just an accidental difference, then this might be a compelling argument.

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There is no difference. Social Media is horrible at our ability to have an intelligent debate. My response to this silly comment to the issue of killing a CHILD that develops a malady. Killing a Child that developes a malady, or in Utero, is never ok. My entire argument from the beginning has been, if there is a choice between the life of the child, or the mother, a decision should be allowed.