Open borders and illegal immigration are Republican policies

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ApolloAg
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Conservatives lie to themselves by blaming Joe Biden and the left for open borders and unchecked illegal immigration. The fact is, Republican donors want illegal immigration, which is why Governor Hotwheels does nothing about it except token gestures like putting up razor wire to pacify his gullible populist base. Same with Trump and his failed "wall".

"Right wing" think tanks like the Cato Institute openly support mass immigration. Cheap labor is good for business, and business makes up the donor class. That's why Republican leadership continues to do nothing about the border beyond theatrics, even though the majority of their constituents hate illegal immigration and mass immigration in general.

Conservatives can't effectively articulate why they oppose immigration either. They point to things like crime, but that's an easy point to defeat because statistically "immigrants commit less crime than US-born citizens". They are also statistically "more likely to be come entrepeneurs".

The problem is that conservatives won't talk about race, and they won't talk about labor.

If they could talk about race, they might say they want to preserve a White majority and broadly European culture. They might say they want their neighbors to look and think like they do, and feel connected by natural ethnic bonds. They could say that immigrants only commit less crime than US-born citizens if you don't include blacks in those crime statistics. The Civil Rights movement, along with a wave of BLM terror, has cowed Whites.

Conservatives also get the labor issue wrong, because of free market capitalism dogma. Immigrants are used to break the collective bargaining power held by White, blue collar laborers. Even Bernie Sanders can get this issue right. But Conservatives swoon over immigrant "entrepreneurs" and "hard workers" and embrace this "hustle culture" crap. Hustle culture is ghetto culture. The flood of cheap labor steals jobs from young Americans. And yes, they would do those jobs if the wages weren't depressed by immigrant scabs.

If Whites and our allies are going to survive and remain a free and prosperous people in the next 100 years, then Conservativism needs to die a quick death. Stop falling for the lies Republican officials are telling you about wanting to protect the border. The blame lies with them. Time to hold them accountable.

Texas velvet maestro
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Republican Policies if you mean Koch brothers..
goatchze
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AG
You seem to not know the difference between Conservatism and Libertarianism.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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it is very clear you have no idea what your talking about. but you do you.
ApolloAg
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goatchze said:

You seem to not know the difference between Conservatism and Libertarianism.
In theory, sure, but in practice, Republicans conflate the two, pick-and-choose, so they can justify the policies everyone hates.
geoag58
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Governor hot wheels took donations and is buddies with the developer of the enemy encampment in Liberty county. So there is a little truth to what the troll says.
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Old May Banker
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Conservatives can't effectively articulate why they oppose immigration either.

I notice you intentionally left out the word "illegal"
93MarineHorn
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Damn! I lost count of all the ridiculous, unsupported assertions in the OP.
ApolloAg
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Old May Banker said:

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Conservatives can't effectively articulate why they oppose immigration either.

I notice you intentionally left out the word "illegal"
No, pay attention. I specifically addressed illegal immigration and mass immigration. Mass immigration is still a death sentence even if it's done "legally".
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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Old May Banker said:

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Conservatives can't effectively articulate why they oppose immigration either.

I notice you intentionally left out the word "illegal"


of course they did those pesky details aren't that important are they? typical liberal moron
WHOOP!'91
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If we say high immigration is R policy, it definitely wouldn't be uncontrolled illegal immigration.

There is no need to mention race, just mention skill sets needed and pull from the intelligence level needed to perform that need.

Someone has already compiled average IQ by country. Need rocket scientists? Pull from higher IQ areas. Pull people who are vetted and not known criminals.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

So, the way the Xiden Regime and Obama Regime before him did it is completely wrong no matter who might support higher immigration.
Gigem_94
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My guess is OP is still young and idealistic without any real experience in the real world and how things actually work and just parrots a bunch of theoretical nonsense he sees on social media.
Ellis Wyatt
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Joe Biden is the president. He is neglecting enforcement of our duly passed legislation. He is abdicating his constitutional duty and should be impeached today.

This has nothing to do with republicans. Stop with the propaganda.
93MarineHorn
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Conservatives lie to themselves by blaming Joe Biden and the left for open borders and unchecked illegal immigration. The fact is, Republican donors want illegal immigration, which is why Governor Hotwheels does nothing about it except token gestures like putting up razor wire to pacify his gullible populist base. Same with Trump and his failed "wall".
This is like saying most media outlets are actually conservative and aren't left wing because they're owned by rich guys or corporations.
Tea Party
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I hope OP is a bot and not a real person that votes....
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TX04Aggie
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Watching Fox now with martha. And watching Obama shill Marie Harf justify the invasion live while showing live video of young men crossing through barbwire and celebrating and high fiving in front of Border Patrol makes me sick….
Manhattan
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Is OP one of those converted right wing Bernie Bros?
Muktheduck
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You're not wrong. If republicans want to claim credit for emancipation, they also have to claim credit for amnesty. Reagan was the first guy to do it

They don't have your interests at heart guys. Republicans want to control you every bit as much as dems do. Quit identifying with them
oh no
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trolling (v) - the deliberate act of making unsolicited obtuse, ignorant, or factually incorrect comments in order to provoke or elicit reactions

we got an "all of the above" here.
Sid Farkas
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Democrat mayors and governors started begging the President to do something about illegal immigration about three weeks ago. I'll bet every one of them wishes the republicans had finished the wall.

Anyone surprised the left is trying to rewrite history today to avoid responsibility for this fiasco?
TexasAggiesWin
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Anyone who uses Bernie Sanders to make their point should be disregarded
Rapier108
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TexasAggiesWin said:

Anyone who uses Bernie Sanders to make their point should be disregarded
And from a Vox video no less.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
93MarineHorn
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Most of the analysis is spot on, but the conclusion is poor.
Calling anything in the OP "analysis" is being way too generous.
Central Committee
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The progressives want open borders to allow as many future dem voters (they assume) into the country as possible and then grant them all citizenship. Unions want the same to get as many people unionized as possible.

Many conservatives want an increase to LEGAL and controlled immigration as possible but grant work visas and not citizenship.

Everyone should want secure borders but the Dems are willing to risk our national security in order to get them to single party rule some day.

Increased immigration is a double edge sword economically. Lower wages help keep costs of goods and services low but has the negative impact of suppressing wages. Dems like to say that we need immigrants to do the work that our citizens won't. This is patently false. Our citizens (ok, not all of them) are willing to do the heavy labor like construction, but not at the suppressed wages that illegals immigrants are willing to work at.
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What a foolish post from a foolish wet-behind-the-ears liberal. Conservatives are for common sense. Protect language, borders and culture. Immigrants are welcome legally as long as there can be assimilation into an established society/culture. This happens slowly and legally. Conservatives are for a fully controlled border that is respected by foreigners. If the border is controlled fully, then we can talk about the immigration levels and guest worker programs. But not until then. That may be too common sense for your way of thinking. I am a product of S. American immigrants who did it the right way. You know, the brown race! Foolish, foolish, foolish.
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you lost me on the first sentence
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ApolloAg said:

"Right wing" think tanks like the Cato Institute openly support mass immigration. Cheap labor is good for business, and business makes up the donor class. That's why Republican leadership continues to do nothing about the border beyond theatrics, even though the majority of their constituents hate illegal immigration and mass immigration in general.
TRUTH!

Republicans will not usually mess with employers of undocumented labor. There have been a few bills in TX Congress over the last couple of decades that would incarcerate employers for hiring undocumented labor and they have all failed miserably.
oh no
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I think we're way past being able to blame the invasion on a greedy capitalist business owner who would try to get away with paying cash under the table to an illegal than full boat salary and benefits to keep his labor cost down. republican donor class is not FOR and all out invasion like this and never was. OP is not close to a serious post.

When you run a campaign on stopping construction of a wall and offering a "path to amnesty" to the est. 40 million illegals already here and then day 1 eliminate the remain in Mexico policy for asylum "claims"- when none of these people are actually fleeing war-torn lands or political oppression or persecution - they're just poor and want free stuff- that's not asylum- it was obviously an intentional open invitation for the over 7 million mass migrants from over a 150 different countries in only 2 years to caravan their asses over here and waltz on in.

How well do you want people to articulate that our country and infrastructure and what's left of the tax base that funds government and public services aren't prepared to handle an invasion like this - from housing to schools to hospitals to first responders to law enforcement? How about the biden admin and those that support this policy articulate why we need this? Why is it so important that we needed to invite this invasion? What are we getting out of it while all resources are busy processing and welcoming in millions of asylum claims that aren't really seeking asylum at our ports of entry, we have limited and constrained resources left to defend the non-ports of entry where criminals, cartels, gang members, and terrorist watch list people as well as record amounts of the fentanyl that is killing teens and a big cause of the homeless epidemic can be included in the unknown number of gotaways? Enlighten us on the benefits we're getting here? It's not cheap labor to pick fruits as Nancy Pelosi has stated.
Old May Banker
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There have been a few bills in TX Congress over the last couple of decades that would incarcerate employers for hiring undocumented labor

lol... these are the same nuts suing musk for not hiring illegals. Get outta here with this nonsense.

The .gov owns the federal border issue... not private business owners.
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I'll feed the troll:

Ask any CBP/ICE agent who it is they want in charge, a Republican or Democrat administration when it comes to letting them do their jobs.
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ApolloAg
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The .gov owns the federal border issue... not private business owners.


Both things can be true at the same time. What I said is not mutually exclusive from what you said.

It actually explains the behavior of the Republican Party. The Republican leadership isn't "dumb", they're fake. That is why they're doing the border theatrics like razor wire and bussing immigrants deeper into the country. They're preying upon pettiness and spite to provide an emotional release valve for their base, but in real terms their policies don't do anything or arguably make the situation worse.

It's a little funny but mostly sad that some people here think I'm a liberal. It's obvious I am not. But I am pointing out a painful reality. The loyalty that has been shown to the Republican Party is being met with betrayal. At least the left openly declares themselves as the enemy. But the Republican Party pretends to be a friend while stabbing us in the back, and that's why they deserve contempt.
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I think there are elites on both sides that would turn a blind eye to illegal immigration. But it's not conservative or Republican NGOs that are funding all of the transportation and support cost to bring 100s of thousands of penniless people to our border.
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Gigem_94 said:

My guess is OP is still young and idealistic without any real experience in the real world and how things actually work and just parrots a bunch of theoretical nonsense he sees on social media.


OP is a liar. Troll post with no facts, no links, just lies. The open border is due to Biden and Democrats and is easily provable.

So why lie? Why would the OP be this dishonest?

It's disgusting, disgraceful, and disturbing that the OP would lie like this.
Funky Winkerbean
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Please explain how cheap labor favors republicans and not democrats.
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