Biden becomes the 8th POTUS subject to an official impeachment inquiry and the sitting POTUS has formed an "Impeachment War Room" to combat any inquiry efforts.

For the first time since Nixon, the likelihood of conviction by the Senate is greater than zero.

This will mark the first time since Bill Clinton that actual crimes are supported by the evidence and will also mark just the second time, the first being James Buchanan, that will center on one of the only 2 crimes specifically named in the impeachment clause of the US Constitution (bribery in both cases, though treason charges may ultimately be supported against Biden.

Look forward to finally seeing this process being used as intended and as is Constitutional for the first time in my lifetime (Nixon predates my journey down the birth canal).

Per McCarthy, Biden is the leader of a "culture of corruption" and lied on multiple occasions regarding his involvement with Hunter Biden's influence peddling schemes.

Abuse of power, obstruction of justice and overall corruption by Biden and his undue influence on the DOJ.

Comer will lead along with Jim Jordan and Jason Smith.

Initial WH Response: "Opening impeachment despite zero evidence of wrongdoing by POTUS is simply red meat for the extreme rightwing so they can keep baselessly attacking him."

Sad news is this level of denial exists in many Biden voters and they will ignore. Cue the "no evidence video"...

And we won't hear much about this in the media.

There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

Speaker Kevin McCarthy officially announces an impeachment inquiry into President Biden: pic.twitter.com/7yfFGbqQKO

— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) September 12, 2023

How can they keep saying "no evidence" at this point. We are swimming in evidence. Shell companies, 170+ SARs, emails and texts from Hunter outlining the various schemes, traceable cash transfers from many foreign governments and Oligarchs. Cash going to a dozen or more Biden family members. The list goes on and on.

aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

I'm just here to Juan.

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aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

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I don't know. This may be the democrat's way to clean the 2024 path for someone not named Biden.

aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Evidence is pervasive and directly correlates cash payments to Hunter Biden and other family members with changes in US policy influence by or made directly by VP Biden.

The subsequent coverups, obstruction of justice, money laundering, tax evasion and other crimes are also well documented.

These things are easily understood as crimes to the average American more so than faux qui pro quos and phone calls that can be interpreted in multiple ways.

I put the chance of conviction below 10% but above 0%. With Trump impeachments, that number was never sniffing anything nother of 0.000000000%.

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aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

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I don't know. This may be the democrat's way to clean the 2024 path for someone not named Biden.

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If they want to do that, they'll just 25th Amendment him.

No need for impeachment unless they think it helps them in the long run beyond just getting rid of Biden.

Rapier108 said:

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aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

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Any R not supporting this is effectively announcing they will not be running in 2024. Most Dems will face the same.

For the Senate, more Ds up for re-election in 2024 than Rs if I recall correctly. Mades for a playing field that tilts ever so slightly to the Ds breaking ranks.

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aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

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I don't know. This may be the democrat's way to clean the 2024 path for someone not named Biden.

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If they want to do that, they'll just 25th Amendment him.

No need for impeachment unless they think it helps them in the long run beyond just getting rid of Biden.

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Requires the cabinet to turn on him and he passed out huge favors to those he nominated to the cabinet. Huge. And they have carried his water thus far.

Now if anything, this may help provide some cover if they want to use the 25th.

I could see this as a way to get rid of him. Have democrat senators vote to impeach, and they will yell 'See, we are impartial! It's those meanie republicans who can never see beyond their party!' Sadly, a great many people will believe them.

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aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

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I don't know. This may be the democrat's way to clean the 2024 path for someone not named Biden.

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If they want to do that, they'll just 25th Amendment him.

No need for impeachment unless they think it helps them in the long run beyond just getting rid of Biden.

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Impeachment keeps their(dems) hands relatively clean and gives red meat to their base for donations.

There will be evidence and it will be damning, but nothing will happen.

Glad they're actually putting that majority in the House to use instead of sitting on their hands.

This may be just the thing the DEMS need to get rid of the Big Man.

all they have are text messages, emails, photos, recorded phone conversations, suspicious activity reports, eye witness accounts, whistleblower testimony, an FBI 1023 form linking Joe to the millions and millions his son and brother and other family members received from foreign oligarchs while Joe was VP. They don't have any proof.

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There will be evidence and it will be damning, but nothing will happen.

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The media will bury it faster than the Me Too movement got on their knees for Biden when his sexual assault evidence was made public.

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FriscoKid said:

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There will be evidence and it will be damning, but nothing will happen.

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The media will bury it faster than the Me Too movement got on their knees for Biden when his sexual assault evidence was made public.

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Me too vs a member of the regime means you have to flee into exile in fear for your life like Tara Reade.

/surprised you didn't know that .gif

i am very confident that the democrats have signed off on this allowing biden to be impeached. it would never be allowed if the dems were not okay with this occurring.

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This may be just the thing the DEMS need to get rid of the Big Man.

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then they still have to spin a way for gavin to become their next installation instead of kamala

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Just an Ag said:

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This may be just the thing the DEMS need to get rid of the Big Man.

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then they still have to spin a way for gavin to become their next installation instead of kamala

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That's not going to be hard. Everyone knows Kamala is an unqualified idiot that got bounced during the first round of the primary debates.

The only reason she was put on Joe's ticket is because if she had to replace him, she would be Obama's puppet just like Joe.

No, nothing will happen, but just get ALL the information out there for everyone to see. Rub the dems noses in it. Campaign on it.

WSJ had an article this am outlining why it is important to go through the process in the manner in which Speaker McCarthy is going. Hopefully not behind paywall (for too long if so):

Impeaching Joe Biden

"With three House committees already investigating, an impeachment inquiry might appear superfluous. But there are practical advantages. To name one, it would enhance the power of House subpoenas. Congressional oversight must be tethered to a legislative purpose, and that includes the subpoenas for information such as the tax and bank records House investigators are asking for.

By contrast, when a subpoena is part of an impeachment inquiry, Congress is acting at the apex of its power in its ability to compel witness testimony and demand documents. An impeachment inquiry doesn't require a legislative purpose, which gives its subpoenas more force in the courts. It also gives the House more negotiating leverage with, say, Justice and the IRS."

Just because it contains the word "impeachment," doesn't mean @POTUS is on the hook for actual removal from office. It just affords @HouseGOP expedited subpoena power.

— Steve Friend (@RealStevefriend) September 12, 2023

This is a temporary salve to the id of the @GOP grassroots base. Even an actual impeachment of President Biden (which will never occur with a Democrat controlled Senate) would not change the policies of the administration.

— Steve Friend (@RealStevefriend) September 12, 2023

Moreover, McCarthy has telegraphed his intention. So now there is leverage to hold up the CR in return for more concessions from @HouseGOP- like Ukrainian aid packages.

— Steve Friend (@RealStevefriend) September 12, 2023

aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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Any repubican who does not vote to convict should get the same treatment.

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How can they keep saying "no evidence" at this point. We are swimming in evidence. Shell companies, 170+ SARs, emails and texts from Hunter outlining the various schemes, traceable cash transfers from many foreign governments and Oligarchs. Cash going to a dozen or more Biden family members. The list goes on and on.

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Democrats lie?

Rapier108 said:

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Zero chance of it even passing the House. There are more than enough RINOs who would not support impeachment.

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So let's do away with that "party of law and order" nonsense ok?

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How can they keep saying "no evidence" at this point. We are swimming in evidence. Shell companies, 170+ SARs, emails and texts from Hunter outlining the various schemes, traceable cash transfers from many foreign governments and Oligarchs. Cash going to a dozen or more Biden family members. The list goes on and on.

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Willful denial. That's it. There is no evidence because they don't acknowledge any evidence.

impeachment doesn't mean removal from office - right?

aezmvp said:

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There is zero chance of a conviction. Sadly. Is it deserved? Well yeah, duh, pretty obvious the guy is extremely corrupt and used the office of VP for significant enrichment for himself and his family. Chances are high the same thing has happened while in the WH at the top. Doesn't matter to the political calculus. Any Dem Senator that votes to convict will flat out not have any donor resources or support from the party and is DOA.

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I wouldn't say the chances are zero. If the democrats can make the republicans look petty and mean by bringing the charges, but then have a few senators in swing states appear to be "true statesmen" who "agree to convict in the face of overwhelming evidence", they can get rid of Biden as the albatross around their neck and pick a candidate that is younger and has wider appeal. That would be a win/win for the dems. If they could somehow rope Kamala into the criminal issues and ditch her too, it would be Christmas morning for them.