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fka ftc said:

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Turley as a witness seems odd.

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Turley is there because he has been called for every impeachment since Clinton, except for the no hearings Trump impeachment in 2021.

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Turley evidently has a background in tax investigations and forensic accounting. Did not know that.

jja79 said:

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He started out by saying Biden shouldn't be impeached. The end.

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He stated "In fact, I do not believe that the current evidence would support articles of impeachment. That is something that an inquiry has to establish. But I do believe that the House has passed the threshold for an impeachment inquiry into the conduct of President Biden."

*Emphasis mine.

So he agrees with the inquiry, which is the step we are on currently... But needs to see more evidence to agree that an Impeachment trial is warranted.

This isn't off to a good start for those that believe Biden should be impeached, myself included.

And Hunter/ Joe were paid by an agent of the CCP for what exactly?

I'm convinced this is the tip of the iceberg. Jordan is going to release info timed to maximize damage and there is so much more. To deny that evidence of corruption exists is pure folly at this point.

I think they're corrupt as anyone ever but if you're watching this isn't going well for the GOP.

Raskin missing his aunt jemima do rag. Glad he is doing better, but I am thinking the cover was more related to his new hair implants and not so much cancer treatment.

Also, someone needs to get those chicks behind Gerhardt some Clearasil.

Gerhardt is the Democrats witness. Pretty sure the others are Republican witnesses.

jja79 said:

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This isn't off to a good start for those that believe Biden should be impeached, myself included.

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This hearing is not going to be a bombshell, ready your popcorn. They have forensic accountants up there for pete's sake. Along with usual partisan law professors.

I want the ******* dunked. Enough with these pleasantries.

Not watching .

"I have heard the term 'Biden family' over and over again, but I have no idea who the Biden family is or what is meant by 'Biden family'" - Dem Lawyer Gerhardt

Completely represents the level of dishonesty of the Dems.

House investigators have released a huge number of documents related to their investigation into the Biden Crime Family.

Here is a doc outlining the scope of the impeachment inquiryhttps://t.co/JG8xTscLRb

All of the docs released this week by House Ways and Means Cmte are…

— Just Human (@realjusthuman) September 28, 2023

Complete timeline of Hunter Biden investigation and Biden Family Corruption done by RCP Investigations is HERE

Question for the legal types here. If the $2MM loan to Hunter to pay the taxes he evaded is in fact a gift and no repayment is made wouldn't that be fraud to structure it as a loan? If it's not really going to be paid doesn't that have to be reported as income which will lead to more evasion of taxes? I believe the witness testified that the benefactor was thanked on behave of the Biden family.

Apparently this is an impeachment of DJT.

jja79 said:

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Question for the legal types here. If the $2MM loan to Hunter to pay the taxes he evaded is in fact a gift and no repayment is made wouldn't that be fraud to structure it as a loan? If it's not really going to be paid doesn't that have to be reported as income which will lead to more evasion of taxes? I believe the witness testified that the benefactor was thanked on behave of the Biden family.

Apparently this is an impeachment of DJT.

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A couple of things at play here but without any documentation, hard to know which one accurately fits what was happening with that money. Outright gift? Donor owes gift tax. Loan that was forgiven? That's income to the recipient. Hunter "repays" with some of his fingerpaintings and blow art? Who knows?

Don't overthink it, it's all fraud. The sole business was access to Joe and buying US Government policy decisions.

Is that something a grand jury would investigate? No one is above the law and pay your taxes is something I hear often.

jja79 said:

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Is that something a grand jury would investigate? No one is above the law and pay your taxes is something I hear often.

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Technically he does not owe taxes on the "loan" until it is forgiven. If I recall, the "loan" was structured to be repaid beginning in 2025. There may be something peculiar about that date.

Only when the loan is forgiven would there be income and in turn potential taxes owed.

Not sure there is anything illegal about the "loan", other than the optics indicate nefarious activity.

There is a strong argument that this "loan" to pay his back taxes should be considered a campaign contribution in which case Joe, Hunter and the lawyer who loaned it should all be charged and jailed.

Keep in mind they wanted to get Trump on his attorney merely processing a payment for a legal settlement on behalf of Trump as some sort of campaign violation. Leftists on here and MSM were all eaten up with "Got him" over it.

jja79 said:

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Is that something a grand jury would investigate? No one is above the law and pay your taxes is something I hear often.

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If there is a prosecutor who wants to bring it before them, yes. As it is? Not happening.

I understand the timing of loan forgiveness and it becoming income. I doubt it's ever repaid and don't believe either party intended for it to be repaid. It's another example of a criminal enterprise being conducted in plain sight.

Say hello to President Harris? Be careful what one wish for. Meanwhile, let's just shut the government down.

Bring her on. She's too stupid to be a criminal like uncle joe.

These Democrats just sit there a lie shamelessly. You can tell they don't believe their own narratives. Just wicked people and liberals have to be really really stupid to buy this crap.

I'm waiting for them to bring in Trump in shackles.

jja79 said:

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Question for the legal types here. If the $2MM loan to Hunter to pay the taxes he evaded is in fact a gift and no repayment is made wouldn't that be fraud to structure it as a loan? If it's not really going to be paid doesn't that have to be reported as income which will lead to more evasion of taxes? I believe the witness testified that the benefactor was thanked on behave of the Biden family.

Apparently this is an impeachment of DJT.

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Families regularly make loans to family members that are later forgiven, which then becomes a gift. As long as it has the minimum amount of interest there is nothing wrong with doing so. Who loaned Hunter the money?

Anybody got a link to Donald Trump telling his supporters to storm the halls of Congress with zip ties and kill Mike Pence like that Democrat witch just stated he did? She should be in cuffs for even uttering such a lie in an official hearing.

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Who loaned Hunter the money?

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Hollywood lawyer and Dem donor, Kevin Morris.

Kevin Morris. Not family.

TexasAggie73 said:

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Say hello to President Harris? Be careful what one wish for. Meanwhile, let's just shut the government down.

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You know government shutdowns do absolutely nothing but give some federal workers a holiday, give politicians something to argue about, and ruins the vacation plans for anyone planning to go do a National Park next week, right?

Let us shut down. It really accomplishes nothing even if it went on for months. Just vacations for some, ruined vacations for others. We will survive.

BREAKING: CNN, MSNBC and the Big 3 TV networks have all blacked out coverage of today's Biden impeachment inquiry, only the fourth presidential impeachment inquiry in U.S. history -- in stark contrast to their wall-to-wall coverage of the 2019 Trump impeachment inquiry #MediaBias

— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) September 28, 2023

Note this impeachment inquiry now underway in the House is

1. NOT being led by Adam Schiff
2. NOT in the House basement
3. NOT being conducted away from all the cameras
4. NOT limiting reporters to soliciting LEAKS from Democrats on the committee
5. NOT having witnesses being…

— Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit (@drawandstrike) September 28, 2023

Why shut down at all?

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Hunter texted his CCP-linked business associate: “My uncle will be here with his BROTHER.”

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that Hunter is referring to Joe Biden.
@RepNancyMace connects the dots from Hunter’s China deal to Joe Biden. pic.twitter.com/i7sFYD3Ffp

— Oversight Committee (@GOPoversight) September 28, 2023

fka ftc said:

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jja79 said:

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Is that something a grand jury would investigate? No one is above the law and pay your taxes is something I hear often.

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Technically he does not owe taxes on the "loan" until it is forgiven. If I recall, the "loan" was structured to be repaid beginning in 2025. There may be something peculiar about that date.

Only when the loan is forgiven would there be income and in turn potential taxes owed.

Not sure there is anything illegal about the "loan", other than the optics indicate nefarious activity.

There is a strong argument that this "loan" to pay his back taxes should be considered a campaign contribution in which case Joe, Hunter and the lawyer who loaned it should all be charged and jailed.

Keep in mind they wanted to get Trump on his attorney merely processing a payment for a legal settlement on behalf of Trump as some sort of campaign violation. Leftists on here and MSM were all eaten up with "Got him" over it.

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So paying off a prostitute as hush money is the same as Hunter Biden getting a loan to pay off taxes? OK, which one is truly "nefarious activity"?

jja79 said:

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This isn't off to a good start for those that believe Biden should be impeached, myself included.

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That's because republicans/conservatives can say whatever they want, true or not, as talking points. But once they are under oath, their tunes change because they can't make **** up.