'The Blind Side' sequel coming?

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So just six months ago, he discovered the plot of the Blindside was a lie? Presumably when he met with an attorney to discuss a potential lawsuit? Right...
He's been a vocal critic of the movie since its release. The movie paints a picture of him having never really played football before the family brought him in, yet he was already heavily involved in multiple sports, and was already a great offensive lineman.
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I suppose you always want to wait to hear both sides of a stories but this is a huge red flag.

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The deal lists all four Tuohy family members as having the same representative at Creative Artists Agency, the petition says. But Oher's agent, who would receive movie contract and payment notices, is listed as Debra Branan, a close family friend of the Tuohys and the same lawyer who filed the 2004 conservatorship petition, the petition alleges. Branan did not return a call to her law office on Monday.

Branan isn't located in L.A. or NYC and doesn't specialize in entertainment law. One of the areas she does specialize in though appears to be family law including conservatorships. If they were really looking out for him why wasn't he repped by CAA, UTA, William Morris, or literally any other entertainment agency?


Book to movie deals aren't usually the financial windfall they appear. Most of the money comes upfront because it's rare to earn out and result in royalties on the back end. We've go through the process as has some of our friends. A big part of the money also comes via increased book sales. I can't imagine Oher and the Tuohys being cut in on that deal. Then again most of my experience and knowledge is on the fiction side and not biopics/non fiction.
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Conservatorship agreement was in 2004 but the movie came out in 2009. They didn't know about the movie or at that time so I can buy the story about they had to do a conservatorship to appease the NCAA since he couldn't be adopted. Did the family control his NFL money too?
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BassCowboy33 said:

LarryElder said:

Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful


Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.


They sold their Long John silver franchises for 200 million

Do you think they need the 70-800 maybe a million dollars they made off the movie

He made like 31.2 million of career earnings and most likely lost a lot of it and probably with the aid of some snake lawyer convinced him to trying to find some extra money
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Ah, so he has entered the Kaepernick phase of his life, blaming his adoptive family for his career being over and wanting to profit personally further from some sort of racialist story lines.
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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.
Wan't he a first round draft pick? He got paid by the NFL, right? And paid well?
Went 23rd in the first round. Signed a five-year, $13.8 million contract with the Baltimore Ravens.

On March 14, 2014, Oher signed a four-year, $20 million contract with the Titians.

On March 6, 2015, Oher signed a two-year, $7 million contract with the Panthers

Dude waited till 2023, 14 years after the movie came out to file a lawsuit. He's after money, because he spent all his on chains, cars and other crap that amounted to nothing.


According to Google, he's currently worth 16 mil. So not really.


According to the article though, he is suing not only to end the conservatorship, but for his "fair share", and for punitive damages.

If all he had asked for was to end the conservatorship and for the family to stop using his name and likeness then I think everybody wouldn't be asking questions.

However, also in the article, it says he only decided to sue after he found out he legally isn't part of the Tuohy family. That indicates to me that he was fine with the Tuohy family accumulating wealth under the conservatorship thinking no he'd recoup a lot of it when they kicked the bucket. When he found out he wasn't going to get that money though, he probably got pissed.
(And that's also assuming the Tuohys were going to cut him out of everything and only give money to their blood).

Oher wanting some of the money the Tuohys made from the story doesn't mean he's broke. I'm not sure if he's legally entitled to the money, or if the Tuohys actually made any, but if they did why shouldn't he want a cut? They ****ed him over in that regard if that's the case.


When you sign a conservatorship, you are legally signing away control of the money. Again we don't know a lot here, but legally he isn't entitled to a cent under conservatorship. He seemingly was fine with the arrangement well into adulthood.

The claim is he wasn't aware of the arrangement until recently.


Great insight here.

If this is sarcasm (and if it is, what irony) tell me how you'd like me to respond to a post that got a detail wrong?


Apologies. The post I was replying to no longer exists and I guess my reply was attached to yours. Again, my reply to your post was unintended.
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Daddy said:

BassCowboy33 said:

LarryElder said:

Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful


Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.


They sold their Long John silver franchises for 200 million

Do you think they need the 70-800 maybe a million dollars they made off the movie

He made like 31.2 million of career earnings and most likely lost a lot of it and probably with the aid of some snake lawyer convinced him to trying to find some extra money


His net worth is 16 million. So he definitely blew a bunch of money, but this narrative that he's desperate for a paycheck is just as false.
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BassCowboy33 said:

LarryElder said:

Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful


Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.
Were they bilking him, or is he retired now and has run out of money like most athletes do?
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why not both?
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I don't think the family made that much from the movie, or the book for that matter. The book was written by Michael Lewis so I expect the he got the money from selling the movie rights to it. The family got some money, but based on an interview the son did on Barstool, it wasn't a lot of money (several thousand dollars over the last 13 years. I think he said something around $70k total and I think that was his split).

Regarding the conservatorship vs adoption by the time the Touhy family decided to take Michael Oher in he was over 18 so they couldn't adopt. Additionally, the NCAA was investigating them for being boosters and taking in this 5 star. So if they did the conservatorship then it would be fine for Oher to go to Ole Miss and the NCAA would drop its investigation.

I know the media wants to jump on the Touhy family, but if you look at the family actions the only terrible thing they have ever done is gone to Ole Miss.
They took in this struggling poor kid after 5 other families at the school had let Oher stay with them. They got him a tutor and helped get his grades up so he could better his life. The Touhy family made way more money than Oher did in his NFL career.

This is just my opinion on the matter but I think Oher has someone in his ear saying he should be richer than he is. Perhaps his expenses surpass his income since he has quit playing football (a lot of athletes go broke after they stop playing). Oher thinks he is due a good chunk of change from his name, image, and likeness but the reality is the Touhy family didn't make a lot from the film. The family didn't act in it, they didn't direct it. The movie studio made the bulk of the money.

And here is some more wild speculation that no one asked for. Perhaps the Touhy family is not planning on including Oher in the will for the $213 million Sean Touhy made selling his fast food franchises. Perhaps the Touhy family is going to just give it to blood family and that upsets Oher who thought they were family and he would get some of that money.
Additionally, perhaps the Touhy family went with the conservatorship to protect Oher from would be vultures. Oher had talent to make it to the NFL (many 5 stars make it, no idea to know he would be a 1st round talent) and the Touhy's knew that when he makes it to the NFL all these long lost uncles and cousins were going to come around and want Oher to give them money. So by having the conservatorship they could protect this (at the time) young dumb poor kid from being taken advantage of. The Touhy's know how to handle money, because they come from money. They wouldn't need to take advantage of Oher like those vultures would. The Touhy's would never say this because to do so would be "racists".
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It's been well understand for years that they took him in to funnel him to their alma mater knowing he was a great athlete.
I think this may have been the original goal and then the rest took shape as opportunities presented themselves.
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Iowaggie said:

A lot of people on here are on the exact same side as the twitter mob, and I think that is usually the wrong side.
I think waiting for more information to come out is usually wise, but twitter mob doesn't buy into that.

Sean Tuohy did an interview with a local Memphis paper. (Summary of interview is in AL.com). My guess is the kickback from the "White Savior" complex combined with how Oher was portrayed in the movie has led to a lot of this.

In reading the Tuohy interview, I don't believe they made meaningful money off of Oher nor the movie. Nor do I believe the motivation for taking in Oher was selfishly driven to make sure he attended Ole Miss.

Some key points: Tuohys made their money in the fast food business, not on Oher. They were very well off before they took him in, and later Sean Tuohy sold his FF franchises for over $213 million (link from 2022).

The money from the movie was given to them by Michael Lewis, author of the Blind Side, who sold the rights for the movie to be made. It was split equally among Oher and the 4 Tuohy's. Total of about $70K, or about $14K each.


Regarding the conservatorship: It was a way to appease the NCAA during the days leading up to his college football decision. As a supporter of Ole Miss athletics, Tuohy would qualify as a "booster" under NCAA rules.


"Michael was obviously living with us for a long time, and the NCAA didn't like that," Tuohy said. "They said the only way Michael could go to Ole Miss was if he was actually part of the family. I sat Michael down and told him, 'If you're planning to go to Ole Miss or even considering Ole Miss we think you have to be part of the family. This would do that, legally.' We contacted lawyers who had told us that we couldn't adopt over the age of 18. The only thing we could do was to have a conservatorship. We were so concerned it was on the up-and-up that we made sure the biological mother came to court."


It would be one thing if Tuohy was part of this great recruiting pipeline from Memphis to Ole Miss, but he wasn't.

As a dad, there is no way I would take in a kid who had been moved around to multiple schools, with kids in the house, just to make sure that 1 kid went to my alma mater. I just don't think that was the family's motivation.


Maybe there will be a lot more information come out, but it does seem like a sad ending to a pretty inspirational story.
That sounds like a more reasonable take.
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Daddy said:

BassCowboy33 said:

LarryElder said:

Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful


Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.


They sold their Long John silver franchises for 200 million

Do you think they need the 70-800 maybe a million dollars they made off the movie

He made like 31.2 million of career earnings and most likely lost a lot of it and probably with the aid of some snake lawyer convinced him to trying to find some extra money


In my experience greedy people are often very wealthy and they NEVER think deals or dollars they feel entitled to are too small to worry about. I've seen plenty of billionaires who will be total a*holes over a few thousand dollars.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

rgag12 said:

Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

rgag12 said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Psycho Bunny said:

aggiehawg said:

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.
Wan't he a first round draft pick? He got paid by the NFL, right? And paid well?
Went 23rd in the first round. Signed a five-year, $13.8 million contract with the Baltimore Ravens.

On March 14, 2014, Oher signed a four-year, $20 million contract with the Titians.

On March 6, 2015, Oher signed a two-year, $7 million contract with the Panthers

Dude waited till 2023, 14 years after the movie came out to file a lawsuit. He's after money, because he spent all his on chains, cars and other crap that amounted to nothing.


According to Google, he's currently worth 16 mil. So not really.


According to the article though, he is suing not only to end the conservatorship, but for his "fair share", and for punitive damages.

If all he had asked for was to end the conservatorship and for the family to stop using his name and likeness then I think everybody wouldn't be asking questions.

However, also in the article, it says he only decided to sue after he found out he legally isn't part of the Tuohy family. That indicates to me that he was fine with the Tuohy family accumulating wealth under the conservatorship thinking no he'd recoup a lot of it when they kicked the bucket. When he found out he wasn't going to get that money though, he probably got pissed.
(And that's also assuming the Tuohys were going to cut him out of everything and only give money to their blood).

Oher wanting some of the money the Tuohys made from the story doesn't mean he's broke. I'm not sure if he's legally entitled to the money, or if the Tuohys actually made any, but if they did why shouldn't he want a cut? They ****ed him over in that regard if that's the case.


When you sign a conservatorship, you are legally signing away control of the money. Again we don't know a lot here, but legally he isn't entitled to a cent under conservatorship. He seemingly was fine with the arrangement well into adulthood.

The claim is he wasn't aware of the arrangement until recently.


Great insight here.

If this is sarcasm (and if it is, what irony) tell me how you'd like me to respond to a post that got a detail wrong?


Apologies. The post I was replying to no longer exists and I guess my reply was attached to yours. Again, my reply to your post was unintended.

No worries, was just confused
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I don't think he was told he was apart from his family. That little long bar at the bottom of the keyboard is there for a reason.
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Anybody else getting sick of successful adult blacks jumping on the trendy bandwagon of throwing white parents/guardians under the bus? Anybody here want to rush out and take a black orphan or foster kid under your roof now?
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My two black and partially black children (adopted) aren't at risk - because I raised them to be strong, critically thinking young men. They aren't easily influenced by outsiders.

That's obviously not true for Kapp, and maybe not true for Oher.

But to answer your question - no, it would not effect who I choose to love and raise as a father.
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"As legal conservators, the Tuohys were then able to negotiate a film deal with 20th Century Fox for almost a quarter million dollars up front, and an additional 2.5% of the film's profits. The film made over $300 million. That's at minimum a $7.5 million haul for the couple."

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"As legal conservators, the Tuohys were then able to negotiate a film deal with 20th Century Fox for almost a quarter million dollars up front, and an additional 2.5% of the film's profits. The film made over $300 million. That's at minimum a $7.5 million haul for the couple."
That's just wrong as in factually inaccurate. There is a vast difference between gross box office and net profit. The theaters take a cut, the markeing and post production costs are figured in as well.

This was a relatively small budget film and not expected to be a blockbuster. In any event, 300 million was not the net profits.
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I can understand that Michael Oher not liking the portrayal of his story in the movie.

There seems to be a consensus, however, that the family was involved in misrepresenting the story, which I have not seen evidence of (which is not to say it doesn't exist by any stretch).

Having never read the book the movie is based on, I would be curious if the movie is a faithful representation of the book (he doesn't appear to be objecting to the book).

If Hollywood bought the rights to the book and then changed it to make it more compelling I don't see how that falls on the Touhys. Further, if they did not author the book (and I cannot find anything where the family is listed as coauthors), then the story it relates about Oher and the Touhys is his responsibility.

Additionally, the book title is "The Blind Side: Evolution of a Game" and from what I can tell focuses equally on Oher and on the change in football wrought by linebackers (and particularly LT) becoming a much more aggressive, pass-rushing position which made protecting the QB (and particularly from his blind side) much more important. This in turn coincided to make Oher much more desirable as a player than maybe he would have been in the past.

I just don't see how the Touhys would have been in a position to bilk money from Oher. Not saying it couldn't happen, just that I don't readily see it.
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TXAG 05 said:

BBRex said:

Mississippi allows for adult adoption now, so when did the law change?


Mississippis laws don't apply to people in Tennesse, where the Touhys live.
Oh, well, it's the same in Tennessee.
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We will see because the writer of the novel made the most money
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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And no matter which side emerges victorious…………….the lawyers win. What a country!!!!
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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BREAKING:

Matt Saracen and Boobie Miles plan to jointly sue Permian High School, the creator of Friday Night Lights and coach Eric Taylor for negligence and failure to follow concussion protocol portrayed in the TV show and book.

Update on live at 5
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So reading this article ...

Oher is mad because the movie stereotypes him as being slow and unintelligent.

Next paragraph ...

Oher claims he was 'tricked.'

Welcome to 2023.
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aggiehawg said:

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"As legal conservators, the Tuohys were then able to negotiate a film deal with 20th Century Fox for almost a quarter million dollars up front, and an additional 2.5% of the film's profits. The film made over $300 million. That's at minimum a $7.5 million haul for the couple."
That's just wrong as in factually inaccurate. There is a vast difference between gross box office and net profit. The theaters take a cut, the markeing and post production costs are figured in as well.

This was a relatively small budget film and not expected to be a blockbuster. In any event, 300 million was not the net profits.

Yeah...My understanding is they get 2.5% of the "net" profits.
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What the hell is this new ish?

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Michael Oher demanded $15 million, threatened to 'plant a negative story,' Tuohy family attorney claims
An attorney who represents Sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy said in a bombshell statement on Tuesday that former NFL player Michael Oher threatened to "plant" a negative story in the press about the Tennessee family unless they paid him $15 million.

Martin Singer, a well-known California attorney, denied in a statement obtained by Fox News Digital the allegations leveled against the Tuohy family in Oher's petition to end their conservatorship, calling them "hurtful and absurd."

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/michael-oher-demanded-15-million-threatened-plant-negative-story-tuohy-family-attorney-claims
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Attorney may just manipulating this thing. Oher could be broke but had an attorney.

Interesting timing. The truth will come out. Popcorn
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aggiehawg said:

I seem to recall a scene from the movie where LeighAnn is having lunch with her friends and one asks her if they are going to aopt him and she's he's almost 18 so reason to adopt him formally. The could petition to become his legal guardians because his father was dead and the state had terminated his mother's parental rights.
Meh...

I adopted one of my daughters when she was 22...

You can do it if you want to.

NOTE: The judge grilled the **** out of both of us about WHY we were doing the adoption. Kinda caught me by surprise. But, I guess our answers were good enough.
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Zarathustra said:


"As legal conservators, the Tuohys were then able to negotiate a film deal with 20th Century Fox for almost a quarter million dollars up front, and an additional 2.5% of the film's profits. The film made over $300 million. That's at minimum a $7.5 million haul for the couple."


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The conservatorship papers stripped the football star of his legal rights until the age of 25.

"At no point did the Tuohys inform Michael that they would have ultimate control of all his contracts, and as a result Michael did not understand that if the Conservatorship was granted, he was signing away his right to contract for himself," the court papers say.

How did he sign his NFL contract?
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This!

When this stuff started to come out on Monday I was expecting to start seeing how they screwed him during NFL and/or endorsement deals because of the conservatorship.
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Sorry, I am just not going to believe, at face value, that a rich white family would manipulate a young black person to their own personal financial gain.

It could be true. But I highly doubt it.

And Hollywood greatly exaggerates pretty much anything and everything based on a true story. We recently watched 80 For Brady, which is based on a true story, and about halfway in I just started laughing and called BS on the whole thing. My wife had read the book, I think, or the actual story about it, and told me that the film was at best 30% accurate.

Again, just not going to buy that rich white family that prints money is going to exploit a poor young black person. Or anyone for that matter. Highly unlikely.
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Oh wait, there's another side to the story?

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Tuohy Family Claims Michael Oher Attempted to 'Threaten' Them with Negative Press in $15 Million 'Shakedown'

In a statement issued to PEOPLE, the Tuohy family's attorney Martin Singer said the Tuohy family "opened their home to Mr. Oher, offered him structure, support, and most of all, unconditional love."

Singer's statement continued, claiming, "His response was to threaten them, including saying that he would plant a negative story about them in the press unless they paid him $15 million."

The statement also alleged that "Mr. Oher has actually attempted to run this play several times before," but was "stopped" after the lawyers representing him "saw the evidence and learned the truth."

Singer's statement continued, "Sadly, Mr. Oher has finally found a willing enabler" to file "this ludicrous lawsuit as a cynical attempt to drum up attention in the middle of his latest book tour."

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"When Michael Lewis, a friend of Sean's since childhood, was approached about turning his book on Mr. Oher and the Tuohys into a movie about their family, his agents negotiated a deal where they received a small advance from the production company and a tiny percentage of net profits. They insisted that any money received be divided equally."

Singer's statement claimed that the Tuohy's "have made good on that pledge" to divide the profits equally.

Additionally, the Tuohys' attorney claimed that "evidence" is "clear" and shows that the "Tuohys have given Mr. Oher an equal cut of every penny received from" the film, all of which has apparently been "documented in profit participation checks and studio accounting statements," per Singer's statement.

Singer's statement also claimed that the Tuohys have "always been upfront about" the details of his conservatorship, which was apparently "established to assist with Mr. Oher's needs, ranging from getting him health insurance and obtaining a driver's license to helping with college admissions."
https://people.com/tuohy-family-claims-blind-side-subject-michael-oher-attempted-15-million-shakedown-7643878

ETA- I see Annie posted something similar last night
 
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