Thoughts on Vivek Ramaswamy

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Tibbers said:

So no plan is better than having a plan. Got ya. Best not to actually articulate a plan for fear of being wrong, am I right? What a joke.
No, he laid out in great detail the thinking that would go into formulating a plan and what the objective and obstacles would be.

You are essentially asking for how to beat Bama in football not this year but next. I mean you can come up with a plan but it is pretty much crap. What is more interesting is talking about your offensive and defensive philosophy and how your general thoughts on game strategy. Especially because in this case you are looking at hiring a coach.

I mean I know you think Vivek is a genius even though he may never have even been within 1000 miles of Ukraine, knows none of the players, and has zero foreign policy experience but maybe, just maybe he hasn't got it all figured out just yet. Perhaps things a bit more complex.

Don't even compare him to Trump either. Trump had extensive business experience for decades all over the world and negotiated extremely complex deals with senior level foreign leaders.
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Im Gipper said:

Under what definition of pagan are you claiming Hindus are not pagan? Have to tell you, that is a head scratcher!
Depends on the religious scholar you ask if Hindus are monotheistic, polytheistic, or pagan. I'm not looking to argue that as it has no relevance to the larger point about Vivek. I don't care if he is Hindu, as I mentioned the only thing I don't care for is him acting as though he is not in talking to a Christian group about God when he has a very different belief system about God that is not the same as Christians.
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I don't care about his religion either,, but no idea how you don't consider Hinduism to be a pagan religion. So, again, what definition are you using that would show it isn't?

I'm Gipper
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Ol_Ag_02 said:


Edit: I'd rather hire Mexi-honkeys but you want too much money.


Monica!
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Im Gipper said:

I don't care about his religion either,, but no idea how you don't consider Hinduism to be a pagan religion. So, again, what definition are you using that would show it isn't?
Not even going to pretend to be a religious scholar or to debate these points. I'm just saying that to some religious scholars they don't consider it pagan. If you think it is I'm not disagreeing. My larger point was really the monotheistic/polytheistic argument because he refers to "God" and not "Gods". Hindus see "Gods" differently and to some that could be seen as the "Holy Trinity" but they see a larger spiritual force and "God". Still it is very different than the Christian God he is speaking to.

I'm strictly interested in how this is relevant from a political perspective and not arguing religion itself or definitions. Once again not a religious scholar.
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astro_ag said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?
If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.
So with your logic minorities dont represent "american culture"?

Texas for example is more mexican influenced than german, english, anglo etc...
So you understand that American culture is already made up of minorities and yet you still asked that question? Go away troll
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infinity ag said:

TexAgs91 said:

SquareOne07 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?
If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

Why don't you just be bold and say you don't like non-white people?
Because that's not what I'm saying. Looks like you also have no clue that American culture includes minorities. Go away troll.
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I 1000% disagree with your sentiment on Trump in terms of him thinking through this. His position has been super clear for 7 years. Your dislike for him is just coming through.

Please name the war he had us in. Anywhere. Name that country or region.

Ps - I'm not a MAGA. I don't love trump either, but I give him credit where it's due.
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GenericAggie said:

I 1000% disagree with your sentiment on Trump in terms of him thinking through this. His position has been super clear for 7 years. Your dislike for him is just coming through.

Please name the war he had us in. Anywhere. Name that country or region.

Ps - I'm not a MAGA. I don't love trump either, but I give him credit where it's due.



That's on the MSM, painting him as crazy enough to start nuking *****es.
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Tibbers said:



Compare this with Ron's meandering answer on what to do in Ukraine.
I know I broke a lot of this down but wanted to make sure you knew I did take the time to listen to this.

I really can't believe you buy this crap. Dude has "studied the Constitution" and thinks he is a better Constitutional scholar than everyone else, even though he has spent zero time applying it in his career. He has a Law Degree and that's great but he didn't use it for Constitutional Law. He's never sued over a Constitutional issue. He's never tried a case to my knowledge. He basically read the Constitution and just thinks he is smarter than everyone. He doesn't even talk about how he has consulted others, no, he is the smart one. It just doesn't work that way.

DeSantis has a serious plan with serious people and has been deep in Constitutional Law since graduating. He's tried cases. He's sued the Feds on multiple accounts. He knows the pitfalls.

The Ukraine stuff is even more out there. Ok, so he has zero experience and hasn't met with any of these people. He read up on it though and he just thinks he can get Russia to get into bed with us economically and ditch China. Uh, no. Russia doesn't have any reason to ally with us because that isn't their concern. Their concern is invasion from their many vulnerable points in their borders and their concern is making sure they aren't controlled by anyone. They have no interest in being a low grade capitalist country and they will always be controlled by a stongman because of the geography and demographics of Russia, not to mention the culture. They also have a very long and very complex relationship with China and they are a lot more concerned with China than the US because China touches their border all over the West and has a direct interest in getting their territory back such as Outer Manchuria and they would love to have access to Lake Baikal.

Vivek has no freaking idea what he is talking about but he says it really well and fast so people assume he is smart. He is simply arrogant and destined to fail. Love the part about how he will just lay off 75% of the Federal Government because he just thinks he has that authority. Uh, no.

Vivek isn't seriously running for President, that's evident. He's just throwing crap against the wall to get applause lines and to get people who don't know better excited. He will not be President but if he tried half of what he is talking about here he would end up in court and impeached. This isn't some venture start up he can draw up on a napkin.
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Got to give Vivek credit, he believes in himself.


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Ramaswamy and the people falling for him are actually easy to explain.

They're millenials, they're special (their mommies and daddies told them so).

They're smarter than every other generation and don't need actual real world experience to be able to master things. Their sheltered college experiences taught them everything they need to know, including the fact that repaying their college debt is too hard and too mean and the burden shouldn't be theirs alone to bear.

If the rest of us would just shut up with our old fashioned ideals and let them run the world it would truly be a utopia.
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Honestly, I think most parents are either upset or concerned when their kids marry outside of their race, religion or social circle/class. I don't trust anyone who says they don't as it's a natural reaction IMHO.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Ramaswamy and the people falling for him are actually easy to explain.

They're millenials, they're special (their mommies and daddies told them so).

They're smarter than every other generation and don't need actual real world experience to be able to master things. Their sheltered college experiences taught them everything they need to know, including the fact that repaying their college debt is too hard and too mean and the burden shouldn't be theirs alone to bear.

If the rest of us would just shut up with our old fashioned ideals and let them run the world it would truly be a utopia.
I think that is some of them but not all. You have to also remember that most of these folks don't have a perspective of politics prior to Obama at all. For me I think about how Reagan was President when I was a kid and saw the shift from Carter to Reagan and having a leader of that caliber. They don't have that perspective. They also have grown up with the internet and shortened attention spans. Psychologically they have always gotten the attention, told they were special, and are caught up in fairness just like their Boomer parents.

Gen X simply isn't that way. We always were in the shadow of the Boomers and were forgotten (thus why we are called Gen X). We were the latch key kids that often had to raise ourselves as the first gen that had both parents working outside the home. We never thought the world was fair and knew we had to fight for everything or else be cast aside and it made us cynics but also mentally very tough.

The other big problem with Millennials that I honestly pity them (and Z's) is they didn't really have true comedy and humor growing up compared to us. When I think about some of my favorite movies from the 80s about High School like Fast Times, Breakfast Club, or especially Heathers they simply can't handle them. They get triggered and uncomfortable and just want to hide. It's sad.

I look at Vivek and he is such a perfect Millennial. He has a lot of Boomer vibes about Obama to him and to an extent Clinton was the same way. They just love being "inspired". They think the level of passion someone speaks with has something to do with truth. Cynical Xers have just seen that show too many times and our first instinct is to look under the hood.

I think Tibbers and folks like him are good folks and they are rightly upset. One problem with Millennials as well though is they simply think that Boomers and Xers are all the same when we are VERY different. Xers have just always been outnumbered and rarely gotten a shot at power. The perfect embodiment of an Xer btw who HAS gotten power is Elon Musk. The perfect embodiment of a Boomer is Bill Gates.
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BigRobSA said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.


I know. It's super hard to believe that an internal audit, analytics, and reporting division could be heavily invested in Indian labor that provides starting auditors at 9 lakh or around $9800 per year. I can hire seven of those guys for the price of a US based auditor, and the best part is they work swing shifts while I'm in bed. Literally you have a problem or task, give it to them, and poof it's in your inbox like magic in the morning. I can hire mid-level directors for 50 lakh and at around $60k and have them lead the entire group of staff.

They're all based in Tamil Nadu or Bangaluru, but I've got a few in Kerala.

Edit. Kerala spelling


So you have an agenda and want to continue using cheap labor, got it.


What idiot would pay more when I can get just a good of work out of them as I can here. Better stockholders profits to boot. Perhaps you missed the part which basically allows me to run 24/7.

You're clearly not cut out for my industry. What's it like slinging widgets?



I worked in IT for 20 yrs. Indians did NOT do equal quality work as we did. We often to had to spend a LOT of time fixing their **** ups. A LOOOOOOOOOT of time.

I agree with you on this. I have been in that situation also, and it angered me to no end. But then, you have to blame the greedy VPs of US companies. These dumbos things "why should I pay $100k for 1 engineer, I can get 4 engineers from India for the same cost". These morons don't get it that you pay peanuts you get monkeys and in the long run you pay more. But the VP doesn't care as he gets the immediate benefit when he is able to impress his boss and then get promoted.

Bottomline: US companies try to get things done on the cheap. Never works out. So they blame "Indians" and everyone else but themselves. No, it is the fault of US companies for cheaping out. Hire smart Indians from top schools instead of unskilled ones who fake their experience. I know this as I have seen what goes on.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.


I know. It's super hard to believe that an internal audit, analytics, and reporting division could be heavily invested in Indian labor that provides starting auditors at 9 lakh or around $9800 per year. I can hire seven of those guys for the price of a US based auditor, and the best part is they work swing shifts while I'm in bed. Literally you have a problem or task, give it to them, and poof it's in your inbox like magic in the morning. I can hire mid-level directors for 50 lakh and at around $60k and have them lead the entire group of staff.

They're all based in Tamil Nadu or Bangaluru, but I've got a few in Kerala.

Edit. Kerala spelling

Also, it is "Bengaluru", not Bangaluru. . Old anglicized name was "Bangalore".
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aggie93 said:

Tibbers said:

Thanks for proving that I have listened to Ron, but you haven't listened to Vivek. All it takes is a short time to learn policies from both. Ukraine being a shifting battleground fails to account for the United States' strength. Do you not think if we stopped giving them billions the war would be over? As to AI, all it takes it to listen to a ten minute+ clip to learn both his position on AI and his actual plan to tackle the deep state. Who cares if something is in someone's top 3 prime topics if they have no plan to actual deal with it with legal powers given to the executive?


To his reverence of God, he talks about universal principles that exist across all religions. Again, found in that small clip I sent earlier. It's not unfounded that you have no idea as to what I am speaking without doing the due diligence (as small as that is) yourself.


I actually have a deep understanding of the Hindu relation with God and Christianity and how they compare. It's an argument Ghandi made often for instance. Hindus aren't Pagans and they don't fit neatly into either monotheistic or polytheistic categories, it's a complex religion. That said I don't really care about his religion other than I don't care for him seeming to pass himself off as a Christian in the way he talks about God. I would respect him far more if he was more open about his personal beliefs as Ghandi did so eloquently. Still none of that is a deal killer for me it just tells me that Vivek is a salesman and is very good at telling people what they want to hear.


Where does he pass himself off as Christian? He openly says that he is Hindu. He doesn't shove it in anyone's faces though. The word "god" is a general term for whomever you worship, it does not only mean the one Christians worship or Hindus or Muslims worship. I have never seen him pass himself off as Christian. If so saw that, post a link please.
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Obviously we disagree but I do appreciate you taking the time to listen what he has to say without immediately dismissing him. For that, thank you.
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infinity ag said:

aggie93 said:

Tibbers said:

Thanks for proving that I have listened to Ron, but you haven't listened to Vivek. All it takes is a short time to learn policies from both. Ukraine being a shifting battleground fails to account for the United States' strength. Do you not think if we stopped giving them billions the war would be over? As to AI, all it takes it to listen to a ten minute+ clip to learn both his position on AI and his actual plan to tackle the deep state. Who cares if something is in someone's top 3 prime topics if they have no plan to actual deal with it with legal powers given to the executive?


To his reverence of God, he talks about universal principles that exist across all religions. Again, found in that small clip I sent earlier. It's not unfounded that you have no idea as to what I am speaking without doing the due diligence (as small as that is) yourself.


I actually have a deep understanding of the Hindu relation with God and Christianity and how they compare. It's an argument Ghandi made often for instance. Hindus aren't Pagans and they don't fit neatly into either monotheistic or polytheistic categories, it's a complex religion. That said I don't really care about his religion other than I don't care for him seeming to pass himself off as a Christian in the way he talks about God. I would respect him far more if he was more open about his personal beliefs as Ghandi did so eloquently. Still none of that is a deal killer for me it just tells me that Vivek is a salesman and is very good at telling people what they want to hear.


Where does he pass himself off as Christian? He openly says that he is Hindu. He doesn't shove it in anyone's faces though. The word "god" is a general term for whomever you worship, it does not only mean the one Christians worship or Hindus or Muslims worship. I have never seen him pass himself off as Christian. If so saw that, post a link please.
He talks a lot about God and Judeo Christian values specifically. If you listen enough of course you can hear him mention he is Hindu when pressed but my guess is a lot of people wouldn't know. It's not an outright lie it's just deceptive. Once again to me I don't really care but it's also clear his intention is to gloss over it for LIVs.
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RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.
Worst of all, he is a hardcore Trump supporter and close friend. And as we all know, Trump is an immoral, adulterous, fake Christian, lying jerkwad who is always attacking Desantis from the left. There is only one candidate worth voting for in this election. If he doesn't win the primary, burn it all down imo. Let the godless democrats have it...they will drive us closer and closer towards a hard reset/divorce.

In order for a true pendulum swing of national revival of some sorts to be initiated, we may have to reach much more dark and chaotic times I am afraid.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Stonegateag85 said:

That's not true. I know more than a handful of Indians married to high achieving white women (sorority girls at that). They're about as pro nuclear family as it gets, just not the right pro nuclear family in your eyes.

I'd have more respect for you if you just said, I won't vote for a brown Indian dude that doesn't look like me for president.


Anecdotes are not data at all. The data says they rarely marry outside their race. I never said this was a bad thing for them. I applaud them for maintaining it.


Would you be upset if your kid dated or married someone who wasn't white?


Of course, I want my grandkids to look like me. Why would I want them to look completely unrelated to me?

With that said, if my kids married Hispanics it wouldn't be that much of an issue in large part because the kids still look like the parents.

Family legacy is important to me and I consider this an important part of that.
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Stonegateag85 said:

Please, share this date then.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/p7f94h/interracial_marriage_rates_for_south_asians/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

I'll admit I was way off on this one and was using information provided to me in some articles by some Indian guys on Twitter. I should know better by this point and to check other sources but wow I had no idea their interracial marriage rates were this high. Those are Hispanic level rates.

I do see more Indians at my church so perhaps the Christians from Indian are immigrating more and more are converting, which is a good thing. Christian Indians tend to be a lot more Western in their behavior both personally and professionally.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.
Worst of all, he is a hardcore Trump supporter and close friend. And as we all know, Trump is an immoral, adulterous, fake Christian, lying jerkwad who is always attacking Desantis from the left. There is only one candidate worth voting for in this election. If he doesn't win the primary, burn it all down imo. Let the godless democrats have it...they will drive us closer and closer towards a hard reset/divorce.

In order for a true pendulum swing of national revival of some sorts to be initiated, we may have to reach much more dark and chaotic times I am afraid.


I'm gunna be honest here- I can't really tell if this is satire or not.
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Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Stonegateag85 said:

That's not true. I know more than a handful of Indians married to high achieving white women (sorority girls at that). They're about as pro nuclear family as it gets, just not the right pro nuclear family in your eyes.

I'd have more respect for you if you just said, I won't vote for a brown Indian dude that doesn't look like me for president.


Anecdotes are not data at all. The data says they rarely marry outside their race. I never said this was a bad thing for them. I applaud them for maintaining it.


Would you be upset if your kid dated or married someone who wasn't white?


Of course, I want my grandkids to look like me. Why would I want them to look completely unrelated to me?

With that said, if my kids married Hispanics it wouldn't be that much of an issue in large part because the kids still look like the parents.

Family legacy is important to me and I consider this an important part of that.


You have spoken heresy to the civic religion of the right-liberal boomercon.
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RebelE Infantry said:

Brittmoore Car Club said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.
Worst of all, he is a hardcore Trump supporter and close friend. And as we all know, Trump is an immoral, adulterous, fake Christian, lying jerkwad who is always attacking Desantis from the left. There is only one candidate worth voting for in this election. If he doesn't win the primary, burn it all down imo. Let the godless democrats have it...they will drive us closer and closer towards a hard reset/divorce.

In order for a true pendulum swing of national revival of some sorts to be initiated, we may have to reach much more dark and chaotic times I am afraid.


I'm gunna be honest here- I can't really tell if this is satire or not.


It's not. The claims about him and Trump are all true and cannot be rebutted. Would like to see someone try tho, just for entertainment purposes.

I am sick of being an undefeated, unpaid teacher on this website. It's a thankless job.
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Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Stonegateag85 said:

That's not true. I know more than a handful of Indians married to high achieving white women (sorority girls at that). They're about as pro nuclear family as it gets, just not the right pro nuclear family in your eyes.

I'd have more respect for you if you just said, I won't vote for a brown Indian dude that doesn't look like me for president.


Anecdotes are not data at all. The data says they rarely marry outside their race. I never said this was a bad thing for them. I applaud them for maintaining it.


Would you be upset if your kid dated or married someone who wasn't white?


Of course, I want my grandkids to look like me. Why would I want them to look completely unrelated to me?

With that said, if my kids married Hispanics it wouldn't be that much of an issue in large part because the kids still look like the parents.

Family legacy is important to me and I consider this an important part of that.


Until you have a beautiful daughter who is amazing and looks like a blend between you and your wife (who, as much as i hate to say it, happens to be from a superior race and culture to modern whites btw (Asian)). Once that happens, you wouldn't want to change a thing…but i get your mentality, having never experienced that.

Every predominantly white nation outside of Eastern Europe is committing cultural suicide and it has nothing to do with interracial breeding. They are abandoning God and embracing wickedness and making up fake "struggles". Modern whites as a whole are one of the worst and most weak and pathetic groups the world has ever seen.

White people better get their sh** together ASAP or the West is completely lost.
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Nanomachines son said:

Stonegateag85 said:

Please, share this date then.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/p7f94h/interracial_marriage_rates_for_south_asians/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

I'll admit I was way off on this one and was using information provided to me in some articles by some Indian guys on Twitter. I should know better by this point and to check other sources but wow I had no idea their interracial marriage rates were this high. Those are Hispanic level rates.

I do see more Indians at my church so perhaps the Christians from Indian are immigrating more and more are converting, which is a good thing. Christian Indians tend to be a lot more Western in their behavior both personally and professionally.


I can almost guarantee you we are going to see a monumental shift in Asian/Indian voting habits over the next decade in most of the country. Both groups will be majority red in the coming years. The evil white left made a fatal error in pivoting from just conditioning new immigrants that "democrats loving and accepting, republicans racist" to just outright pushing degenerate lunacy from every angle. Not to mention openly discriminating against these people.

They still make up a small minority and Hispanics are who we really need to win over, but I'm calling that shot and we can bump in 8-10 years.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Nanomachines son said:

Stonegateag85 said:

Please, share this date then.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/p7f94h/interracial_marriage_rates_for_south_asians/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

I'll admit I was way off on this one and was using information provided to me in some articles by some Indian guys on Twitter. I should know better by this point and to check other sources but wow I had no idea their interracial marriage rates were this high. Those are Hispanic level rates.

I do see more Indians at my church so perhaps the Christians from Indian are immigrating more and more are converting, which is a good thing. Christian Indians tend to be a lot more Western in their behavior both personally and professionally.


I can almost guarantee you we are going to see a monumental shift in Asian/Indian voting habits over the next decade in most of the country. Both groups will be majority red in the coming years. The evil white left made a fatal error in pivoting from just conditioning new immigrants that "democrats loving and accepting, republicans racist" to just outright pushing degenerate lunacy from every angle. Not to mention openly discriminating against these people.

They still make up a small minority and Hispanics are who we really need to win over, but I'm calling that shot and we can bump in 8-10 years.


The biggest issue with Indians and Asians is that they tend to be conformists by nature, which is what leads them to supporting the dominate culture, which in this case is the cultural Marxist left.

If the social conservative right comes back and proves dominant long term (and it will if birth rates are any indication) then these groups will shift right definitely.

I also expect more of the mixed race kids to from Indians at least to shift right primarily because the kids will have Caucasian facial features. I say this because it's important for the men to not feel alienated from their father. By comparison mixed white/Asian boys struggle with this a lot more since they often have primarily Asian features, which creates a crisis of identity (they see their Asian moms as rejecting them because they chose a white guy, which means they irrationally think their mom's don't consider them attractive and are rejecting them too). The Asian incel community speaks about this topic often.
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Interesting points…esp re: the phenomenon of mixed race Asian males seeing it as being abandoned by their mothers. I'd at least hope strong, loving, and involved fathers could help counter this mentality for some men because that's very sad. I think there's also the dynamic that many Asian females are seen as desirable by white, Latino, black males etc., but this is not really reciprocated with Asian males. There are certainly exceptions, but a lot of times it's mostly just asian girls giving them a chance.

I redpilled the hell out of my wife and she absolutely cannot stand modern libs now…or any form of race baiting. And she voted Obama in 08. You mention the conformity, which is certainly true with a lot of immigrants and first gen, but a lot of my male Asian buddies in Texas are avid gun enthusiasts, masculine and conservative. Lots of Asians at gun ranges nowadays, which to me is an indicator of conservatism. I think the "conformity" thing erodes with many over time. Another problem, is that many Asian people seem to just keep their heads down and focus on themselves and their family, not super plugged into politics and current events like we are. I feel like that's changing as the modern democrat party has become so blatantly degenerate and in your face.
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Appreciate the reply and link.
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Tibbers said:

Obviously we disagree but I do appreciate you taking the time to listen what he has to say without immediately dismissing him. For that, thank you.
Vigorous discussion is what this site is all about, especially in a fact based way!

BTW, here is some more detail from DeSantis on how he will Drain the Swamp from today:


"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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Soros Fellow 2011

paid Wikipedia to scrub his history from his post regarding his support for vaccines

made millions as part of Big Pharma and pimping the vaccines for Covid

worked with Chinese firms

never voted until 3 years ago

has never actually DONE anything to support conservatives-

would love to see the Trumpers who are backing this guy explain WHAT Vivek has ever done to help the conservative movement rather than his own checking account.

but since he is not a conservative and also a smooth grifter, he fits in perfectly with the Trump cronies.
 
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