Thoughts on Vivek Ramaswamy

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Nanomachines son said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?
If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.



He's a Trump simp, but being Hindu is 0% an issue. That's just silly. He's probably more American than a LOT of Christians.


Right because Hindus are so tolerant of Christians when they have power, just see India…oh wait.

Sorry, but I'll never trust a pagan to run my nation. Paganism of all forms is demonic, especially Hindu. The only reason they ended human sacrifices is because the British forced them to by the sword. Human sacrifice is the norm for all pagan religions.

"Just see India..." Really?

You don't know anything about the history of India, so maybe it makes sense to shut up and learn.
India was colonized by European forces and they used Christianity as their weapon. They managed to convert a bunch of people in the process. Christianity is losing following in the West so the leaders see India as the last hope to get a following. So they send missionaries like yourself over there. These missionaries are devious and use lies and fraud to get converts. People don't like this nonsense, so they kick these clowns out. And deservedly so.




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96AgGrad said:

infinity ag said:

96AgGrad said:

I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

Now you are just clutching at straws to justify why you dislike him.

No, I'm telling you the exact reason I don't like him.

If that is your reason, then better sit at home on election day. All candidates are going to try very hard to be liked.
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Seems like a good guy, lots of good ideas, but too green to be president. And given Trump's age, VP means ALOT! Try again in 2036 ViVek!

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Im Gipper said:

Don't think "Hitler did it, why can't Vivek??!?" Is the best campaign strategy.


But imagine the bumper sticker sales.
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Im Gipper said:

Don't think "Hitler did it, why can't Vivek??!?" Is the best campaign strategy.


That's already the slogan of the Biden administration.
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RebelE Infantry said:

annie88 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


He was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

He's as American as you are.


He may be just as much of a citizen as I am, but he is not as American as me.


Oh, you're one of those.
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Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.
Without a doubt, that person has never worked with Indians.

I've worked with offshore teams for over a decade now and you're spot on.
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Nanomachines son said:

annie88 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


He was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

He's as American as you are.


My family has been settlers of this nation since Jamestown. There is a massive difference and frankly he doesn't understand what it means to be an American any more than I would understand what it means to be an Indian citizen if I was born in India because.


Hahaha. This reads like something a villian in low-budget hollywood movie would say just before he meets an unfortunate and grisly end.
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RangerRick9211 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.
Without a doubt, that person has never worked with Indians.

I've worked with offshore teams for over a decade now and you're spot on.


He's probably confused and thinks their behavior toward him personally, as a racist with seemingly disdain for their entire culture and country, as how they interact with the rest of us.
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Tibbers said:

Look, we all hate the deep state/administrative state, right? We all want less federal government. We all want to drain the swamp. These are passions that burn hot with us all but I've yet to hear someone clearly articulate a path forward to do so until I heard Vivek in the clip I posted above. Skip to 3 minutes in and he lays out how it's all entirely possible to do so and the legal framework in which to completely abolish organizations like the FBI. He lays out how it's possible to lay off 75% of government workers. It really is amazing.

He also talks about AI and the coming threat there. Who do you really think has a better handle on that? Him or any of the candidates you heard speak yesterday?

The only candidate with a real plan for dismantling the Deep State is DeSantis. He has the experience and he has the best intellectuals in the conservative movement already working on the plan and the people. Roy, Massie, VDH are his brain trust.

Vivek drew up a plan on a napkin and thinks he can make it happen by magic. Of course he knows he won't win so all he needs is theory and people gullible enough to get caught up in his rhetoric.

Btw, Vivek has not even really run a traditional company. His skill is investment and getting investors. It's staggering how unprepared he is to be President. Hell of a salesman and super smart but he has no team and no track record.

Vote for him if you want but if you really care about those issues and not feels then you should actually look at what DeSantis has done and his track record. He actually knows what he's doing.
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infinity ag said:

96AgGrad said:

infinity ag said:

96AgGrad said:

I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

Now you are just clutching at straws to justify why you dislike him.

No, I'm telling you the exact reason I don't like him.

If that is your reason, then better sit at home on election day. All candidates are going to try very hard to be liked.
Thanks. I'll give your advice the consideration it deserves.
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infinity ag said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


Remember when people's main gripe against JFK was he was Catholic? I'm glad to see we've come so far as a country.


I'll never vote for a non-Christian again nor will I vote for anyone who doesn't want to massively decrease all immigration.

Good, then vote for Biden. That is working out well for you.


Biden is almost certainly a satanist. The odds of him being a practicing Catholic is zero.
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infinity ag said:

TheBonifaceOption said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

Indians vote 72% for Dems. They don't understand exceptionalism. They buy into the lefts anti-white crap because of Britains history with India, so they inflict that sentiment against the patriotic party.

You are wrong.
Indians vote based on their interests. When they just move into the country as immigrants, the Dem party seems more attractive. When they spend a few years in the US, get an education, get wealthy, start businesses and see how the Dem party has been pandering to them for votes and hurts business, they switch to supporting good Republican candidates.

Who has been feeding you with the crap you wrote?


2nd and 3rd generation immigrants that aren't white or white Hispanic get more leftist than their parents. Over and over I have seen 2nd and 3rd Gen kids fully embrace social justice and abandon everything their parents believed when they came here.

Almost all stats bear this out.
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aggie93 said:

Tibbers said:

Look, we all hate the deep state/administrative state, right? We all want less federal government. We all want to drain the swamp. These are passions that burn hot with us all but I've yet to hear someone clearly articulate a path forward to do so until I heard Vivek in the clip I posted above. Skip to 3 minutes in and he lays out how it's all entirely possible to do so and the legal framework in which to completely abolish organizations like the FBI. He lays out how it's possible to lay off 75% of government workers. It really is amazing.

He also talks about AI and the coming threat there. Who do you really think has a better handle on that? Him or any of the candidates you heard speak yesterday?

The only candidate with a real plan for dismantling the Deep State is DeSantis. He has the experience and he has the best intellectuals in the conservative movement already working on the plan and the people. Roy, Massie, VDH are his brain trust.

Vivek drew up a plan on a napkin and thinks he can make it happen by magic. Of course he knows he won't win so all he needs is theory and people gullible enough to get caught up in his rhetoric.

Btw, Vivek has not even really run a traditional company. His skill is investment and getting investors. It's staggering how unprepared he is to be President. Hell of a salesman and super smart but he has no team and no track record.

Vote for him if you want but if you really care about those issues and not feels then you should actually look at what DeSantis has done and his track record. He actually knows what he's doing.
ok, show me where Ron has talked about what he specifically would do to dismantle the deep state. Show me what he would specifically do to tackle Ukraine and decouple Russia and China. Show me his exact plans. He had his opportunity with Tucker last night on Ukraine and I didn't hear a specific single thing other than "we need to get NATO to do more" which is precisely the same plan Trump had.
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Im Gipper said:

Nanomachines son said:

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He may be just as much of a citizen as I am, but he is not as American as me.


He is for equality and ideal of Declaration of Independence, so I'd say he's MORE American than you and your goofy Catholic oligarchy buddies! Lol


I'm a Baptist, but there were Catholic signers of the Declaration so try again.


You forget what account you were logged into? No one said "this account" is Catholic!


I know Rebel is a devout Catholic.
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infinity ag said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

This is a good example of another thing that concerns me about Vivek. He really thinks a lot about himself. If he thinks that the Democrats are holding back on Biden out of fear of HIM he's just being stupid. I mean the point about Biden in a vacuum is fine but this certainly has nothing to do with Vivek.





Him being a manlet is also a problem. He's going to be the smallest man in every single room he ever goes into on the world stage and that's not a good thing. Size: be it muscular or height, matters in geopolitics.

For example, Zelensky always looks ridiculous up against other world leaders and he's the same heigh at Ramaswamy. It's impossible to project power for your nation when you have none personally. It makes you look like you have tiny man syndrome. There is a reason most global leaders tend to be taller than the average in their nation.

You should tell this to someone called Adolf Hitler.

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Adolf Hitler/Height

5 9





5'9" is average height now and the average in Germany was 5'8" at the time. Using historical figures when heights were a lot shorter in the past doesn't make the point you're trying to make.
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Nanomachines son said:

Im Gipper said:

Nanomachines son said:

Im Gipper said:

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He may be just as much of a citizen as I am, but he is not as American as me.


He is for equality and ideal of Declaration of Independence, so I'd say he's MORE American than you and your goofy Catholic oligarchy buddies! Lol


I'm a Baptist, but there were Catholic signers of the Declaration so try again.


You forget what account you were logged into? No one said "this account" is Catholic!


I know Rebel is a devout Catholic.


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He had his opportunity with Tucker last night


You showed your ass on DeSantis performance on Tucker yesterday. Back for more?

He explained what he'd do on firings and moving agencies out of DC. On Ukraine, he says no US troops and get NATO more involved. Asking for detailed military plan is absurd.

Keep it up. We are all enjoying the laughs!

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infinity ag said:

Nanomachines son said:

BigRobSA said:

TexAgs91 said:

SquareOne07 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.


Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?
If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.



He's a Trump simp, but being Hindu is 0% an issue. That's just silly. He's probably more American than a LOT of Christians.


Right because Hindus are so tolerant of Christians when they have power, just see India…oh wait.

Sorry, but I'll never trust a pagan to run my nation. Paganism of all forms is demonic, especially Hindu. The only reason they ended human sacrifices is because the British forced them to by the sword. Human sacrifice is the norm for all pagan religions.

"Just see India..." Really?

You don't know anything about the history of India, so maybe it makes sense to shut up and learn.
India was colonized by European forces and they used Christianity as their weapon. They managed to convert a bunch of people in the process. Christianity is losing following in the West so the leaders see India as the last hope to get a following. So they send missionaries like yourself over there. These missionaries are devious and use lies and fraud to get converts. People don't like this nonsense, so they kick these clowns out. And deservedly so.







I have no desire to ever go to India, at all, ever, for any reason.

India had a number of barbaric human sacrifice rituals like the Aztecs. For example, until the British stopped it, they would burn their wives alive at the husbands funeral. This was completely normal behavior.

I really don't care about the nation of India, for the same reason I don't care much about Europe, Africa, or the rest of Asia. It's not and never will be my concern.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.
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Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.

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Now this is funny!


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Im Gipper said:

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He had his opportunity with Tucker last night


You showed your ass on DeSantis performance on Tucker yesterday. Back for more?

He explained what he'd do on firings and moving agencies out of DC. On Ukraine, he says no US troops and get NATO more involved. Asking for detailed military plan is absurd.

Keep it up. We are all enjoying the laughs!
See, that's my point. He offers to way out of Ukraine. He said he'd fire individuals without taking into account firing individual civil service workers would mire him for years. Vivek addresses that and has a work around. Does Ron? "fire Fauci" well, if that were easy, it would have been done. There are mechanisms in place that actually prevent executives from doing that, but you knew that, right? Ron surely doesn't. There was a reason Tucker kept asking "ok, so what would you do to solve the Ukraine problem?" He must have asked very nicely three different times. Each time Ron pivoted to this and that. It was eye opening.
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He said he'd fire individuals without taking into account firing individual civil service workers would mire him for years.


Hilarious! He is well aware of how it works. Keep digging. Lol

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fire Fauci" well, if that were easy, it would have been done.


It would have been VERY easy to do. Instead of firing him, Trump kept praising him and GAVE HIM A MEDAL as one of his last acts! Stop with the "oh, it's too hard!!" bit.


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Tibbers said:

Im Gipper said:

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He had his opportunity with Tucker last night


You showed your ass on DeSantis performance on Tucker yesterday. Back for more?

He explained what he'd do on firings and moving agencies out of DC. On Ukraine, he says no US troops and get NATO more involved. Asking for detailed military plan is absurd.

Keep it up. We are all enjoying the laughs!
See, that's my point. He offers to way out of Ukraine. He said he'd fire individuals without taking into account firing individual civil service workers would mire him for years. Vivek addresses that and has a work around. Does Ron? "fire Fauci" well, if that were easy, it would have been done. There are mechanisms in place that actually prevent executives from doing that, but you knew that, right? Ron surely doesn't. There was a reason Tucker kept asking "ok, so what would you do to solve the Ukraine problem?" He must have asked very nicely three different times. Each time Ron pivoted to this and that. It was eye opening.


This Iowa forum is clearly your first foray into this current campaign and introduction to these candidates. Honestly, I'm glad you're genuinely paying attention, more people need to so they can make informed decisions.

That said, the reason I know you haven't done any other research into the candidates is because if you had you wouldn't for a second think that Desantis is unprepared and without a plan for Ukraine.

Desantis has clearly demonstrated in his years in office that he's the most meticulously planned and well prepared candidate of this bunch by far. I could write three pages on how he tackled COVID, local DAs who wouldn't follow the letter of the law, election shenanigans in S. Florida, the Disney/Reedy Creek issue, the Parental Rights Bill, and on and on.

You've fallen for the charm and smooth delivery of Ramaswamy. THAT'S his biggest strength. Do a little more research though into him and his history and he starts to unravel.

And like I said on page 1......he's clearly angling to simply disrupt this GOP primary to the benefit of Trump with the intended goal of getting something from Trump later on. But hell, you've already bought into a Trump/Ramaswamp ticket, soooo mission accomplished with you at least.
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My first impression and gut reaction is a no for Ramaswamy
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Tibbers said:

Im Gipper said:

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He had his opportunity with Tucker last night


You showed your ass on DeSantis performance on Tucker yesterday. Back for more?

He explained what he'd do on firings and moving agencies out of DC. On Ukraine, he says no US troops and get NATO more involved. Asking for detailed military plan is absurd.

Keep it up. We are all enjoying the laughs!
See, that's my point. He offers to way out of Ukraine. He said he'd fire individuals without taking into account firing individual civil service workers would mire him for years. Vivek addresses that and has a work around. Does Ron? "fire Fauci" well, if that were easy, it would have been done. There are mechanisms in place that actually prevent executives from doing that, but you knew that, right? Ron surely doesn't. There was a reason Tucker kept asking "ok, so what would you do to solve the Ukraine problem?" He must have asked very nicely three different times. Each time Ron pivoted to this and that. It was eye opening.


This Iowa forum is clearly your first foray into this current campaign and introduction to these candidates. Honestly, I'm glad you're genuinely paying attention, more people need to so they can make informed decisions.

That said, the reason I know you haven't done any other research into the candidates is because if you had you wouldn't for a second think that Desantis is unprepared and without a plan for Ukraine.

Desantis has clearly demonstrated in his years in office that he's the most meticulously planned and well prepared candidate of this bunch by far. I could write three pages on how he tackled COVID, local DAs who wouldn't follow the letter of the law, election shenanigans in S. Florida, the Disney/Reedy Creek issue, the Parental Rights Bill, and on and on.

You've fallen for the charm and smooth delivery of Ramaswamy. THAT'S his biggest strength. Do a little more research though into him and his history and he starts to unravel.

And like I said on page 1......he's clearly angling to simply disrupt this GOP primary to the benefit of Trump with the intended goal of getting something from Trump later on. But hell, you've already bought into a Trump/Ramaswamp ticket, soooo mission accomplished with you at least.
All I asked for was his specific policies. Show them to me. What would he specifically do to solve Ukraine? What would he specifically do to tackle the deep/administrative state? What would he specifically do to tackle AI? These are the issues that the next president would take on immediately assuming office. I have listened to Ron and I haven't found these answers. Please, since you are a fan of the guy, tell me what they are. You would know, right?
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.
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Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.

Lots of generalization here. You speak to one or two handpicked Indians who have the misfortune of working with the likes of you and you claim that everyone is that way.

What if someone uses your logic and uses George Floyd incident to claim that America is a racist country full of racist people? Yes, it's that ridiculous.

I don't see what you say about intermarriages. I see so many Indians married to non-Indians, expecially second generation. People marry their own type in general, and Indians value education a lot and so you will rarely see them marry someone without an good education.

As far as "miserable experience" the only thing you can say truthfully is some Indians from India are not really competent. Some people are hired because they can breathe. Some Off-shored teams aren't known for quality, they are for quantity. It is for a US based VP to lie to his greedy US based boss that he is getting cost savings. I have worked with those types as well. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. So shell out.
The Indians in the US are all top notch - especially 2nd generation. Vivek is among this group.

Open your eyes man. We live in a different world. Cast away your prejudices and you will see the goodness in mankind.

Here's Rishi.

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Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.


I know. It's super hard to believe that an internal audit, analytics, and reporting division could be heavily invested in Indian labor that provides starting auditors at 9 lakh or around $9800 per year. I can hire seven of those guys for the price of a US based auditor, and the best part is they work swing shifts while I'm in bed. Literally you have a problem or task, give it to them, and poof it's in your inbox like magic in the morning. I can hire mid-level directors for 50 lakh and at around $60k and have them lead the entire group of staff.

They're all based in Tamil Nadu or Bangaluru, but I've got a few in Kerala.

Edit. Kerala spelling
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.


I know. It's super hard to believe that an internal audit, analytics, and reporting division could be heavily invested in Indian labor that provides starting auditors at 9 lakh or around $9800 per year. I can hire seven of those guys for the price of a US based auditor, and the best part is they work swing shifts while I'm in bed. Literally you have a problem or task, give it to them, and poof it's in your inbox like magic in the morning. I can hire mid-level directors for 50 lakh and at around $60k and have them lead the entire group of staff.

They're all based in Tamil Nadu or Bangaluru, but I've got a few in Kerala.

Edit. Kerala spelling


So you have an agenda and want to continue using cheap labor, got it.
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What we need is someone who is near 80 and senile and has a history of being a blow hard and paying off porn stars that he has banged and has a vocabulary of about 12 words. Anyone know if we can find such a candidate?
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Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.


I know. It's super hard to believe that an internal audit, analytics, and reporting division could be heavily invested in Indian labor that provides starting auditors at 9 lakh or around $9800 per year. I can hire seven of those guys for the price of a US based auditor, and the best part is they work swing shifts while I'm in bed. Literally you have a problem or task, give it to them, and poof it's in your inbox like magic in the morning. I can hire mid-level directors for 50 lakh and at around $60k and have them lead the entire group of staff.

They're all based in Tamil Nadu or Bangaluru, but I've got a few in Kerala.

Edit. Kerala spelling


So you have an agenda and want to continue using cheap labor, got it.


What idiot would pay more when I can get just a good of work out of them as I can here. Better stockholders profits to boot. Perhaps you missed the part which basically allows me to run 24/7.

You're clearly not cut out for my industry. What's it like slinging widgets?
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Nanomachines son said:

aggie93 said:

Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:





I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.


I run a division that is made up almost exclusively of Indians living in India. I've spent months in India.

I would 100% disagree with your entire post. They're extremely loyal, hard working, and kind. There's no lying backstabbing, and the ends never justify the means.

They're Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims and all extremely tolerant of each others beliefs to the point where intermarriage of faith is common.

What you posted is frankly just another racist tirade.


Yeah this is hilariously wrong for virtually everyone who works in any field with a number of Indians. By and large it's a miserable experience. I have never met anyone who actually enjoys it or would choose an Indian over an American.

This kind of behavior is why H1-Bs are universally reviled.

Also, tolerant? Have you ever spoken to an Indian in private? They are racist beyond belief. I've had a few friends over the years and they pretty much hate blacks, Hispanics, and simply tolerate non-Indians. Indian families will disown their kids often if they marry someone outside of the ethnicity, which is why their interracial marriage rates are the lowest in the US. They are very insular as a people and don't really associate with outsiders.


Despite spending months in Indian, supervising dozens and dozens of Indians, cooking for them in my homes, eating in their homes in India, touring India with them, and counting many of them as close friends that I speak to regularly despite living ten thousand miles away, no, Ive never spoken to an Indian in private.




I simply don't believe you have done this or you have an agenda.


I know. It's super hard to believe that an internal audit, analytics, and reporting division could be heavily invested in Indian labor that provides starting auditors at 9 lakh or around $9800 per year. I can hire seven of those guys for the price of a US based auditor, and the best part is they work swing shifts while I'm in bed. Literally you have a problem or task, give it to them, and poof it's in your inbox like magic in the morning. I can hire mid-level directors for 50 lakh and at around $60k and have them lead the entire group of staff.

They're all based in Tamil Nadu or Bangaluru, but I've got a few in Kerala.

Edit. Kerala spelling


So you have an agenda and want to continue using cheap labor, got it.


What idiot would pay more when I can get just a good of work out of them as I can here. Better stockholders profits to boot. Perhaps you missed the part which basically allows me to run 24/7.

You're clearly not cut out for my industry. What's it like slinging widgets?


You are everything I expected and more, literally a stereotype.
 
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