I've never seen such racist stances here. I'm not apt to throw that term out normally but there's no way else to frame this. I am conservative in nature but I still have an open mind. Some of you older Ags apparently do not and that's a terrible way to live. This is why the establishment wins continually. Y'all are frankly just set in your old ways of viewing the world like little frightened lambs.

Doth My Nugs Bequeath Me? said:

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He's here to make money just like the rest of em


Only 1 politician in the history of America left office with less money than when he began his term

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And that is Donald J Trump

Compare this with Ron's meandering answer on what to do in Ukraine.

This is why I distanced myself from the party, I lean conservatively but these racist, anti anything thats not white, protestant/Catholic/evangelicals, anglo saxon, straight, god fearing types really kill it for me. Theyre the rights version of the lgbtq brigade

He's the articulate version of Trump without the childish behavior and name calling. He says what the base wants to hear same as Trump. I just don't know if he has any core convictions based on things he's said in the past. Kind of like Trump as well.

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This is why I distanced myself from the party, I lean conservatively but these racist, anti anything thats not white, protestant, anglo saxon, straight, god fearing types really kill it for me. Theyre the rights version of the lgbtq brigade

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Completely agree. Pro-American not republican.

Look, we all hate the deep state/administrative state, right? We all want less federal government. We all want to drain the swamp. These are passions that burn hot with us all but I've yet to hear someone clearly articulate a path forward to do so until I heard Vivek in the clip I posted above. Skip to 3 minutes in and he lays out how it's all entirely possible to do so and the legal framework in which to completely abolish organizations like the FBI. He lays out how it's possible to lay off 75% of government workers. It really is amazing.

He also talks about AI and the coming threat there. Who do you really think has a better handle on that? Him or any of the candidates you heard speak yesterday?

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I've never seen such racist stances here. I'm not apt to throw that term out normally but there's no way else to frame this. I am conservative in nature but I still have an open mind. Some of you older Ags apparently do not and that's a terrible way to live. This is why the establishment wins continually. Y'all are frankly just set in your old ways of viewing the world like little frightened lambs.

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So you teach in the Anthropology department?

RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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He was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

He's as American as you are.

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I've never seen such racist stances here. I'm not apt to throw that term out normally but there's no way else to frame this. I am conservative in nature but I still have an open mind. Some of you older Ags apparently do not and that's a terrible way to live. This is why the establishment wins continually. Y'all are frankly just set in your old ways of viewing the world like little frightened lambs.

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I legitimately don't care at all.

Seems like the only person reacting with fear here is you since I scare you so much. Should I assume that you're going to let your progressive buddies at unicorn riot know about the racists on the forum? Get antifa to come to our houses? Go back to Reddit and leave this place.

Lol, no I voted for trump twice. I'm just shocked at the blatant comments here. I'm not a boogeyman, just responding to what I clearly see as substance over policy. It's sad really.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_reorganization_authority#:~:text=Presidential%20reorganization%20authority%20is%20designed,implement%20through%20a%20parliamentary%20process.

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Absolutely not.

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He was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

He's as American as you are.

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He may be just as much of a citizen as I am, but he is not as American as me.

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I've never seen such racist stances here. I'm not apt to throw that term out normally but there's no way else to frame this. I am conservative in nature but I still have an open mind. Some of you older Ags apparently do not and that's a terrible way to live. This is why the establishment wins continually. Y'all are frankly just set in your old ways of viewing the world like little frightened lambs.

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The crew in question here are all self proclaimed white nationalist high-church christian fundamentalists, and they'll happily tell you so. You shouldn't be surprised at this.

There is no seat at the American table unless you are white and subscribe to their version of Christianity. They do more to push non and fallen-away Christians from organized religion then any pagan could accomplish.

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He may be just as much of a citizen as I am, but he is not as American as me.

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He is for equality and ideal of Declaration of Independence, so I'd say he's MORE American than you and your goofy Catholic oligarchy buddies! Lol

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-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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He was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

He's as American as you are.

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He may be just as much of a citizen as I am, but he is not as American as me.

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Holy crap. I didn't see this before I pushed send. But way to prove my post a minute ago 1000% correct.

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This is why I distanced myself from the party, I lean conservatively but these racist, anti anything thats not white, protestant, anglo saxon, straight, god fearing types really kill it for me. Theyre the rights version of the lgbtq brigade

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These guys aren't Protestant. And frankly their racist views aren't Catholic either.

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Compare this with Ron's meandering answer on what to do in Ukraine.

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Totally unrealistic for Russia with all they've invested in BRICS/BRICS+.

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He is literally 10 years out of college. No.

Smart guy and I am great with him running for another office or serving in some other capacity but we don't need a 37 year old who basically made a bunch of money betting on Pharma that paid off running the country when we have at least 2 more competent options in DeSantis and Trump.

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Now, this, this is reasonable.

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He is very smart, but lacks political experience. I don't think he can get things done as easy as he thinks. I would like him to be President, but in 8 years. He needs to become Gov of OH or become a Congressman before that. This will only help him and fine tune his expectations of himself.

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-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Remember when people's main gripe against JFK was he was Catholic? I'm glad to see we've come so far as a country.

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I'll never vote for a non-Christian again nor will I vote for anyone who doesn't want to massively decrease all immigration.

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Good, then vote for Biden. That is working out well for you.

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He is literally 10 years out of college. No.

Smart guy and I am great with him running for another office or serving in some other capacity but we don't need a 37 year old who basically made a bunch of money betting on Pharma that paid off running the country when we have at least 2 more competent options in DeSantis and Trump.

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We need younger people leading, not 80 year olds. I would think late 30s to mid 50s would be optimal age.

Just like physical ability, cognitive ability begins degrading in your 30s and beyond. Sure wisdom and knowledge of life is the tradeoff, but only to a certain point.

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I'm all for younger people but not 37 as President, especially if they have never held elective office. DeSantis is only 44 but he served in the military, did 6 years in Congress, and has 5 years as Governor. He has diversity of experience and has shown he can lead at a significant but smaller level.

It's the 10 years out of college and no elected experience that makes Vivek a hard no. He can run for Governor or Senate (Ohio has a vulnerable Dem Senator up right now) and gain at least a little seasoning. He would be way over his head as President and the bigger problem is he doesn't even realize it. He really thinks he is just that smart. He has yet to admit he was completely wrong when he went out and said DeSantis was making a mistake against Disney and would lose. He just doesn't have the experience. I want him in the Party and for a future option but he isn't the guy for now and honestly he isn't a serious candidate for now. It's pretty clear he is a Trump lackey designed to take away votes from DeSantis awaiting some payoff from Trump.

Look just a little bit down the chess board, it's pretty obvious.

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I like the points you are making. His age is not the problem, his lack of political experience is. Getting things done will be harder in practice than in theory.

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aggie93 said:

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He is literally 10 years out of college. No.

Smart guy and I am great with him running for another office or serving in some other capacity but we don't need a 37 year old who basically made a bunch of money betting on Pharma that paid off running the country when we have at least 2 more competent options in DeSantis and Trump.

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Now, this, this is reasonable.

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He is very smart, but lacks political experience. I don't think he can get things done as easy as he thinks. I would like him to be President, but in 8 years. He needs to become Gov of OH or become a Congressman before that. This will only help him and fine tune his expectations of himself.

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If he isn't to be the nominee I'd rather have him be the vice president and inject his policies daily with a shared message to the presidency. I'm still voting for him the primary however.

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-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Indians vote 72% for Dems. They don't understand exceptionalism. They buy into the lefts anti-white crap because of Britains history with India, so they inflict that sentiment against the patriotic party.

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You are wrong.
Indians vote based on their interests. When they just move into the country as immigrants, the Dem party seems more attractive. When they spend a few years in the US, get an education, get wealthy, start businesses and see how the Dem party has been pandering to them for votes and hurts business, they switch to supporting good Republican candidates.

Who has been feeding you with the crap you wrote?

Do you have a link showing that switch for second generation etc?

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-Cringe

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He was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio.

He's as American as you are.

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My family has been settlers of this nation since Jamestown. There is a massive difference and frankly he doesn't understand what it means to be an American any more than I would understand what it means to be an Indian citizen if I was born in India because.

If you replaced all of the people in Japan with Africans, would it still be Japan?

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He is for equality and ideal of Declaration of Independence, so I'd say he's MORE American than you and your goofy Catholic oligarchy buddies! Lol

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I'm a Baptist, but there were Catholic signers of the Declaration so try again.

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This is why I distanced myself from the party, I lean conservatively but these racist, anti anything thats not white, protestant, anglo saxon, straight, god fearing types really kill it for me. Theyre the rights version of the lgbtq brigade

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These guys aren't Protestant. And frankly their racist views aren't Catholic either.

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I'm a Baptist and I hold the same views. Lots of Christian Nationalists, who come from all denominations, hold similar views.

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I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

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Now you are just clutching at straws to justify why you dislike him.

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BS Alert!!
BS Alert!!

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-Cringe

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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Why don't you just be bold and say you don't like non-white people?

Why do you hide behind such nonsensical arguments? He is more American in his thinking than white Christian Biden.

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I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

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Now you are just clutching at straws to justify why you dislike him.

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No, I'm telling you the exact reason I don't like him.

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He is for equality and ideal of Declaration of Independence, so I'd say he's MORE American than you and your goofy Catholic oligarchy buddies! Lol

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I'm a Baptist, but there were Catholic signers of the Declaration so try again.

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You forget what account you were logged into? No one said "this account" is Catholic!

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I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

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He is the Indian grad student you used to invite to the bar. Everyone liked him, but at the end of the night the girls still would not go home with him.

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Umm, the Indian grad student was there to get an education, get a high paying job, start businesses and become wealthy. Not to sleep around with STD ridden skanks at school parties. The ones who went home with these skanks are now selling insurance making hourly wages.

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This is a good example of another thing that concerns me about Vivek. He really thinks a lot about himself. If he thinks that the Democrats are holding back on Biden out of fear of HIM he's just being stupid. I mean the point about Biden in a vacuum is fine but this certainly has nothing to do with Vivek.

Vivek Ramaswamy claims there's a Deep State conspiracy in the works to stop him from beating Biden.

He is currently polling around 2% in the Real Clear Politics average. pic.twitter.com/o8hYkxQfja

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) July 15, 2023

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Him being a manlet is also a problem. He's going to be the smallest man in every single room he ever goes into on the world stage and that's not a good thing. Size: be it muscular or height, matters in geopolitics.

For example, Zelensky always looks ridiculous up against other world leaders and he's the same heigh at Ramaswamy. It's impossible to project power for your nation when you have none personally. It makes you look like you have tiny man syndrome. There is a reason most global leaders tend to be taller than the average in their nation.

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You should tell this to someone called Adolf Hitler.

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Don't think "Hitler did it, why can't Vivek??!?" Is the best campaign strategy.