aggie93 said:

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aggierogue said:

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Not disagreeing with most of your points, but Trump didn't have elective office experience either.

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Right, but he was in his 60's and had massive real world experience and had been in and around politics for decades. He almost ran in 2000. He had massive international experience and knew a lot of international leaders personally.

The point is you need one or the other. A young guy with little real world experience and no public experience is not who needs to be the most powerful person on Earth.

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He'll be nearly 40 before he would take office. I'm not sure why you think he needs to be corrupted by politics to be the POTUS. We've watched an 80 year old man with dementia hold the title. I'm sure a highly intelligent 40 year old could do it.

aggierogue said:

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What are the criticisms of this guy from conservatives? I just listened to him on the Summit with Tucker, and he seems solid. But admittedly I don't know anything about him.

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He's Trump's lackey, therefore not really a conservative.

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aggie93 said:

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aggierogue said:

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Not disagreeing with most of your points, but Trump didn't have elective office experience either.

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Right, but he was in his 60's and had massive real world experience and had been in and around politics for decades. He almost ran in 2000. He had massive international experience and knew a lot of international leaders personally.

The point is you need one or the other. A young guy with little real world experience and no public experience is not who needs to be the most powerful person on Earth.

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He'll be nearly 40 before he would take office. I'm not sure why you think he needs to be corrupted by politics to be the POTUS. We've watched an 80 year old man with dementia hold the title. I'm sure a highly intelligent 40 year old could do it.

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Could he? Sure, as long as you are willing to put up with a LOT of big mistakes. We have 2 far more proven options, one of which is possibly the most exceptional conservative politician of my lifetime. It takes a lot more than communication skills.

I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

Dan Scott said:

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He has the highest emotional intelligence of any candidate

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How TF is that even relevant?

I want "running the country" intelligence in my candidate.

SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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Well, you've got yourself a white Catholic in office now…that's pretty American I guess. He seems to be keeping the culture in tact.

Wonder what his thoughts on vimanas is?

TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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He's a Trump simp, but being Hindu is 0% an issue. That's just silly. He's probably more American than a LOT of Christians.

SquareOne07 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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Well, you've got yourself a white Catholic in office now…that's pretty American I guess. He seems to be keeping the culture in tact.

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How does one white catholic balance bringing in millions of illegals per year? Can you explain?

TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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Well, you've got yourself a white Catholic in office now…that's pretty American I guess. He seems to be keeping the culture in tact.

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How does one white catholic balance bringing in millions of illegals per year? Can you explain?

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You mentioned it being a problem to "dilute American culture" implying that a young Hindu man wasn't the solution. Well, we have quite the opposite right now and he's doing a **** job.

I dunno, maybe I've misunderstood the message for some time now, but I thought we were the "**** identify politics and let's get the best person for the job in the job", but maybe when the rubber meets the road that's not quite the case.

Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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I think he does a great job reaching his audience. Positive and optimistic. However, I do not think his style is a winning strategy.

In true Indian fashion, he has take the best political rhetoric and optimizes for himself.

My wife and I were just watching his videos. IMHO, he takes mannerisms from Trump and speech segments from Obama…I swear he goes to Obama sometimes and will bring himself out of it.

I do know Texas farm boys and Valley Hispanics would never give him a second thought.

He is good at the campaigning.

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he has the body of a 16 year old girl and looks like he is 28 years old from Bombay.

I can't imagine America electing a tiny skinny guy like that who just popped out of corporate America

maybe if he... you know... actually voted... and ran for an office other than MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD

He's smart and talented but he's not presidential. He needs a spot somewhere…

The more I find out about him the less I like. He seems to be angling to be on Trump's ticket.

I really like his idealism. I imagine he is very competent and inspiration as a leader with a small and manageable team. I would like to work with him. I don't trust that he can get things done in the mess that is our federal government where people don't want to be inspired and will work against him. We need things to get done and we have to have a President this time that has an edge of anger and aggressiveness to fight the system rather than simply use and manage it. DeSantis offers that and Trump supporters think Trump does (in spite of 2020).

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TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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Well, you've got yourself a white Catholic in office now…that's pretty American I guess. He seems to be keeping the culture in tact.

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How does one white catholic balance bringing in millions of illegals per year? Can you explain?

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You mentioned it being a problem to "dilute American culture" implying that a young Hindu man wasn't the solution. Well, we have quite the opposite right now and he's doing a **** job.

I dunno, maybe I've misunderstood the message for some time now, but I thought we were the "**** identify politics and let's get the best person for the job in the job", but maybe when the rubber meets the road that's not quite the case.

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Democrat policy is to fill this country with non-whites because of their identity politics. Yes, Republicans are against identity politics. There is no reason to import mass amounts of people into this country other than to destroy our identity as a country. There's usually nothing wrong with other cultures, but there wasn't anything wrong with ours either. It didn't need to be replaced.

Why am I not surprised it's the same posters discriminating against someone because of their religion.

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The more I find out about him the less I like. He seems to be angling to be on Trump's ticket.

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Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:

That awkward moment when you find old @VivekGRamaswamy tweets condemning Trump for J6 as Team Trump elevates Vivek.

Is Vivek honest about anything? pic.twitter.com/zyRrF3T9JT

— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) July 15, 2023

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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I think he does a great job reaching his audience. Positive and optimistic. However, I do not think his style is a winning strategy.

In true Indian fashion, he has take the best political rhetoric and optimizes for himself.

My wife and I were just watching his videos. IMHO, he takes mannerisms from Trump and speech segments from Obama…I swear he goes to Obama sometimes and will bring himself out of it.

I do know Texas farm boys and Valley Hispanics would never give him a second thought.

He is good at the campaigning.

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he has the body of a 16 year old girl and looks like he is 28 years old from Bombay.

I can't imagine America electing a tiny skinny guy like that who just popped out of corporate America

maybe if he... you know... actually voted... and ran for an office other than MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD

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LMCane, I agree with your assessment.

I do not see America electing him either, but he has figured out the "media" aspect of campaigning. I have been looking at a lot of political media lately, and Vivake has come out of nowhere and now in the Top 3.

I seem to remember another business man that swayed America, handled the media well, and made it to the top. It is possible.

He was also gung ho about pushing out the vaccine as fast as possible and pushing Pharma to do it. He also didn't think they should be blamed "if something goes wrong" as much as getting it out quickly. Fundamentally he is a Big Pharma guy who pushed for mandates and following the science.

For a guy with so little experience he has some pretty big L's.

aggie93 said:

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aggierogue said:

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aggie93 said:

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He is literally 10 years out of college. No.

Smart guy and I am great with him running for another office or serving in some other capacity but we don't need a 37 year old who basically made a bunch of money betting on Pharma that paid off running the country when we have at least 2 more competent options in DeSantis and Trump.

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We need younger people leading, not 80 year olds. I would think late 30s to mid 50s would be optimal age.

Just like physical ability, cognitive ability begins degrading in your 30s and beyond. Sure wisdom and knowledge of life is the tradeoff, but only to a certain point.

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I'm all for younger people but not 37 as President, especially if they have never held elective office. DeSantis is only 44 but he served in the military, did 6 years in Congress, and has 5 years as Governor. He has diversity of experience and has shown he can lead at a significant but smaller level.

It's the 10 years out of college and no elected experience that makes Vivek a hard no. He can run for Governor or Senate (Ohio has a vulnerable Dem Senator up right now) and gain at least a little seasoning. He would be way over his head as President and the bigger problem is he doesn't even realize it. He really thinks he is just that smart. He has yet to admit he was completely wrong when he went out and said DeSantis was making a mistake against Disney and would lose. He just doesn't have the experience. I want him in the Party and for a future option but he isn't the guy for now and honestly he isn't a serious candidate for now. It's pretty clear he is a Trump lackey designed to take away votes from DeSantis awaiting some payoff from Trump.

Look just a little bit down the chess board, it's pretty obvious.

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DeSantis will be 45 in another 6 weeks and 46 by the time he enters the White House.

almost the same age as Obama 2007

aggiejayrod said:

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Frok said:

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Sleepnumber said:

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aggierogue said:

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What are the criticisms of this guy from conservatives? I just listened to him on the Summit with Tucker, and he seems solid. But admittedly I don't know anything about him.

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Super bright....unelectable.

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That's right, we can't have reasonable people. Give me the narcissistic a-holes

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Literally every single person who says "I'm the best person to run a country of 350 million people" is a narcissistic a-hole

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Maybe so, but the real problem will come when nobody says it.

Jerkin_my_durkin said:

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But if we get more Indians here then we can start scamming the Indians.

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Can we get a DEI initiative in the motel and convenience store industry?

TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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So with your logic minorities dont represent "american culture"?

Texas for example is more mexican influenced than german, english, anglo etc...

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I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

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He is the Indian grad student you used to invite to the bar. Everyone liked him, but at the end of the night the girls still would not go home with him.

aggie93 said:

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This is a good example of another thing that concerns me about Vivek. He really thinks a lot about himself. If he thinks that the Democrats are holding back on Biden out of fear of HIM he's just being stupid. I mean the point about Biden in a vacuum is fine but this certainly has nothing to do with Vivek.

Vivek Ramaswamy claims there's a Deep State conspiracy in the works to stop him from beating Biden.

He is currently polling around 2% in the Real Clear Politics average. pic.twitter.com/o8hYkxQfja

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) July 15, 2023

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Him being a manlet is also a problem. He's going to be the smallest man in every single room he ever goes into on the world stage and that's not a good thing. Size: be it muscular or height, matters in geopolitics.

For example, Zelensky always looks ridiculous up against other world leaders and he's the same heigh at Ramaswamy. It's impossible to project power for your nation when you have none personally. It makes you look like you have tiny man syndrome. There is a reason most global leaders tend to be taller than the average in their nation.

aggie93 said:

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aggierogue said:

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aggie93 said:

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He is literally 10 years out of college. No.

Smart guy and I am great with him running for another office or serving in some other capacity but we don't need a 37 year old who basically made a bunch of money betting on Pharma that paid off running the country when we have at least 2 more competent options in DeSantis and Trump.

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We need younger people leading, not 80 year olds. I would think late 30s to mid 50s would be optimal age.

Just like physical ability, cognitive ability begins degrading in your 30s and beyond. Sure wisdom and knowledge of life is the tradeoff, but only to a certain point.

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I'm all for younger people but not 37 as President, especially if they have never held elective office. DeSantis is only 44 but he served in the military, did 6 years in Congress, and has 5 years as Governor. He has diversity of experience and has shown he can lead at a significant but smaller level.

It's the 10 years out of college and no elected experience that makes Vivek a hard no. He can run for Governor or Senate (Ohio has a vulnerable Dem Senator up right now) and gain at least a little seasoning. He would be way over his head as President and the bigger problem is he doesn't even realize it. He really thinks he is just that smart. He has yet to admit he was completely wrong when he went out and said DeSantis was making a mistake against Disney and would lose. He just doesn't have the experience. I want him in the Party and for a future option but he isn't the guy for now and honestly he isn't a serious candidate for now. It's pretty clear he is a Trump lackey designed to take away votes from DeSantis awaiting some payoff from Trump.

Look just a little bit down the chess board, it's pretty obvious.

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Realistically, payoffs are the name of the game in politics and have been for, well, always. If he has established a relationship with Trump that transcends the ego factor, there is almost no end to the important posts he could be named to. IF Trump wins.

BigRobSA said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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-Is Hindu
-Will flood the country with H1B visa Indians
-Cringe

Absolutely not.

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Why is him being Hindu a problem?

The country is flooding with illegals…worthless ones…currently.

Cringe…why?

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If the goal is to dilute American culture as much as possible, I suppose you have a point.

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He's a Trump simp, but being Hindu is 0% an issue. That's just silly. He's probably more American than a LOT of Christians.

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Right because Hindus are so tolerant of Christians when they have power, just see India…oh wait.

Sorry, but I'll never trust a pagan to run my nation. Paganism of all forms is demonic, especially Hindu. The only reason they ended human sacrifices is because the British forced them to by the sword. Human sacrifice is the norm for all pagan religions.

aggie93 said:

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Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:

That awkward moment when you find old @VivekGRamaswamy tweets condemning Trump for J6 as Team Trump elevates Vivek.

Is Vivek honest about anything? pic.twitter.com/zyRrF3T9JT

— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) July 15, 2023

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I can tell that most of you don't deal with Indians on a daily basis for work. If you did then you would understand lying is the absolute norm, backstabbing is common, cheating is accepted, and the ends always justify the means.

This is absolutely par for the course for every single Indian I have ever worked with in my career except for perhaps 2 of them. They will kiss your ass to the extreme until they get into a position of power and then drive a knife into your back.

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96AgGrad said:

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I've said it on other threads before, but he tries too hard to be liked and taken seriously. It's like even he knows that he doesn't have the necessary experience and tries to overcompensate for it.

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He is the Indian grad student you used to invite to the bar. Everyone liked him, but at the end of the night the girls still would not go home with him.

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You can see the inferiority complex easily yeah.

TRM said:

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I will never trust him. He probably wanted to put together a vaccine database to punish the anti covid vaxxers

Ramaswamy company pitched governments on effort to install universal covid patient records surveillance database

Datavant sought to create a universal database for governments that displays "every patient who has been tested for Covid-19."https://t.co/MzO5M1JKY2

— Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.today (@JordanSchachtel) June 6, 2023

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Before rebranding as a warrior for free speech and a passionate crusader for privacy rights, newly announced presidential contender Vivek Ramaswamy was pitching the U.S. and world governments on his efforts to install a broad, centralized database of private medical records.

In a pursuit forged through one of his subsidiary companies, a "health information" data mining outfit called Datavant, Ramaswamy's outfit pursued the establishment of a single national and global database for all covid-related patient health records.

Through a partnership with Snowflake, a San Francisco based cloud computing company, Ramaswamy wanted to "fight covid-19" by manufacturing a "single repository of all the real-world medical data" thanks to the production of a "national data infrastructure" of private and public patient records, all without the consent of the actual patients.

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IMHO, if the statement above is true that completely eliminates him for my consideration as a political leader in any capacity let alone President of the U.S.

That database advocacy is totally against the foundations of our Constitution, Declaration of Independence and common sense. It represents the centralized state a totalitarian would love to obtain.

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aggie93 said:

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Everyone is buzzing about how Vivek articulated the feelings of the Jan 6 folks yesterday. Let's look back at what he said at the time:

That awkward moment when you find old @VivekGRamaswamy tweets condemning Trump for J6 as Team Trump elevates Vivek.

Is Vivek honest about anything? pic.twitter.com/zyRrF3T9JT

— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) July 15, 2023

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aggie93 said:

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This is a good example of another thing that concerns me about Vivek. He really thinks a lot about himself. If he thinks that the Democrats are holding back on Biden out of fear of HIM he's just being stupid. I mean the point about Biden in a vacuum is fine but this certainly has nothing to do with Vivek.

Vivek Ramaswamy claims there's a Deep State conspiracy in the works to stop him from beating Biden.

He is currently polling around 2% in the Real Clear Politics average. pic.twitter.com/o8hYkxQfja

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) July 15, 2023

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Well, you do have to be a little delusional to run for President in the first place.